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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,950
    im thinking of taking a little road trip to boston this august to go to fenway........

    watch out people.........
    We here in Boston don't give a rat's ass.

    Hehehehehehehe.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Does Milwaukee lose a draft pick or two in addition to the $10 mil?
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Does Milwaukee lose a draft pick or two in addition to the $10 mil?

    No, Gagne was a type B free agent. The Sox just get a sandwich pick for Gagne between the first and second round now.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,950
    Solat13 wrote:
    No, Gagne was a type B free agent. The Sox just get a sandwich pick for Gagne between the first and second round now.
    The Sox win that arrangement.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    It's a one year deal, and the brewers have loot to blow on bad players b/c they had such a boost in tix sales last season...so they pulled a cashman/theo and took a bad player. The thing is maybe he wasn't a fit for boston b/c they didn't make him the closer, some pitchers are weird like that. A boy can only hope anyway...still puking in my mouth I might pull a Bonham.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    ryan198 wrote:
    It's a one year deal, and the brewers have loot to blow on bad players b/c they had such a boost in tix sales last season...so they pulled a cashman/theo and took a bad player. The thing is maybe he wasn't a fit for boston b/c they didn't make him the closer, some pitchers are weird like that. A boy can only hope anyway...still puking in my mouth I might pull a Bonham.

    I know this is not the Brewers thread, but was any team going to give Gagne close to 10 million or did the Brewers just get bent over by Boras here.

    I think 10 million makes Gagne the 4th highest paid closer in all of baseball behind only Mo Rivera, Wagner, and BJ Ryan.

    Gagne is going to make more than Josh Beckett next year which I find hysterical.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • ryan198ryan198 Posts: 1,015
    Solat13 wrote:
    I know this is not the Brewers thread, but was any team going to give Gagne close to 10 million or did the Brewers just get bent over by Boras here.

    I think 10 million makes Gagne the 4th highest paid closer in all of baseball behind only Mo Rivera, Wagner, and BJ Ryan.

    Gagne is going to make more than Josh Beckett next year which I find hysterical.
    yeah sorry...i started talking about the brewers-sox series, then gagne got picked up...i'm not sure who they were competing with, and why they paid that much...my theory is that they are going to see what this hit does to their bottom line, then get someone good for 10M next season. anyway back to sox news...they're really good.
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    mark prior was non-tendered by the cubs.

    i'd like the sox to take a flier on him if possible.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,950
    JSBE wrote:
    mark prior was non-tendered by the cubs.

    i'd like the sox to take a flier on him if possible.
    2 words: Wade Miller
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Poncier wrote:
    2 words: Wade Miller

    True, but if the Sox could take a flier for the same price that they payed Wade Miller - 1.5 mil - than it would be worth a shot.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • His mechanics are shot, though with the amount of starting pitching the Sox have he could go every other month.
    9/7/98, 8/3/00, 9/4/00, 4/15/03, 7/1/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 5/24/06, 5/25/06, 6/17/08, 6/22/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 5/17/10, 10/15/13, 10/16/13.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,950
    So the one thing that I think the whole Mitchell thing may do is finally get Jim Rice elected into the Hall of Fame. If these writers now take a good look at what he did in the pre-steroids era they'll vote him in.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The title was going to be Pap's Dog eats WS ball, but I hit enter by accident ... lol

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3163105
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Poncier wrote:
    So the one thing that I think the whole Mitchell thing may do is finally get Jim Rice elected into the Hall of Fame. If these writers now take a good look at what he did in the pre-steroids era they'll vote him in.
    I think there is no such thing as the pre steriods era. There will only be a post steroid era, maybe. Old timers werent using HGH, but steroids....probably.


    that said, Rice belongs in the hall without question. he is among the top 100 players of all time in all major categories.....hits, hr, and rbi.
    All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    I think there is no such thing as the pre steriods era. There will only be a post steroid era, maybe. Old timers werent using HGH, but steroids....probably.


    that said, Rice belongs in the hall without question. he is among the top 100 players of all time in all major categories.....hits, hr, and rbi.

    Well, he's in the top 100 career in hits until about July of next year. He's currently at 97 and should be passed by 4 or 5 players.

    He's a great player and I think he should be in the HOF, but if he doesn't get in this year, it doesn't look good for his future chances.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,950
    Solat13 wrote:

    He's a great player and I think he should be in the HOF, but if he doesn't get in this year, it doesn't look good for his future chances.
    Ultimately I think the Veteran's Committee will induct him, but he deserves to get elected on the regular ballot. I think it'll happen this year.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,505
    With the class as week as it is this year, Rice has his best shot to get in. If he doesn't make it there's no real shot he gets in until a Veteran's Committee vote. The upcoming classes are too strong.
    I wish I was as fortunate, as fortunate as me.
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  • HartydogHartydog Posts: 2,060
    I am definitely a huge supporter of Jim Ed. His numbers were tremendous for his era. They look even better in light of all the juicing that went on of late. and besides how many guys have you seen snap a bat while checking his swing? this guy was so strong... And played an above average defensive left field
    Boston 9-28-04, 5-24-06, 5-25-06, 5-17-10, 8-5-16, 8-7-16, 9-2-18, 9-4-18
    Hartford 5-13-06, 6-27-08, 10-25-13
    Mansfield, MA 6-30-08, 6-28-08, 7-2-03, 7-3-03, 7-11-03, 8-29-00, 8-30-00, 9-15-98, 9-16-98
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  • I had to get the Sox thread going again.
    We added another good piece to the bench.



    BOSTON -- The Red Sox have reportedly filled one of the last holes on their team by agreeing to a one-year contract with veteran first baseman Sean Casey.
    According to he Boston Globe and Boston Herald, the deal is worth $800,000 and will become official once Casey passes his physical, which is expected to be conducted early next week.

    The Red Sox had been in the market for a left-handed bat off the bench.

    A starting first baseman since 1999, the 33-year-old Casey will move to a backup role with the defending World Series champion Red Sox.

    Casey will be able to start on days that first baseman Kevin Youkilis or third baseman Mike Lowell are out of the lineup. In the latter scenario, Youkilis would move to third with Casey playing first.

    Though star designated hitter David Ortiz doesn't rest very often, Casey could also fill in for the lefty slugger.

    Casey is known throughout baseball as being a positive clubhouse influence, as well as a true professional on the playing field. The term "gamer" is one that Casey has defined through the years.

    He has spent most of his career with the Reds, but represented the Tigers in the 2006 World Series. Casey hit .296 for the Tigers in 2007, adding 30 doubles, four homers and 54 RBIs.

    Over 1,336 games, Casey has a .301 average with 130 homers, 718 RBIs and a .366 on-base percentage.

    Casey essentially replaces Eric Hinske on Boston's roster. Hinske is a free agent and has yet to sign with another team.
  • As a former Spider, I am happy to see the Mayor in Boston this year. Hopefully, fans will bond with him quick, even though his numbers have been going south the last few seasons.
  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,505
    I'm very happy with the Casey signing. It gives the Sox great options for a pinch hitter and defensive replacement. Whey Youkilis needs a break he can fill in nicely and when Lowell needs one Youkilis can go to third. Just glad it was Casey and not Tony Clark. Casey is also supposed to be a great clubhouse guy. One interview I read said he's so outgoing he makes Millar look shy.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    Boston Red Sox

    1. Clay Buchholz - RHP - DOB: 08/14/84 - ETA: May 2008
    7-2, 1.77 ERA, 55 H, 116/22 K/BB in 86 2/3 IP (AA Portland)
    1-3, 3.96 ERA, 32 H, 55/13 K/BB in 38 2/3 IP (AAA Pawtucket)
    3-1, 1.59 ERA, 14 H, 22/10 K/BB in 22 2/3 IP (Red Sox)

    A 2005 supplemental first-round earned through the loss of Pedro Martinez to the Mets, Buchholz emerged as the game's top pitching prospect during the middle of last season, only to be challenged by Joba Chamberlain by year's end. Using a 91-95 mph fastball and two outstanding complimentary pitches in his curve and changeup, the Texas native was able to pitch a no-hitter versus the Orioles in just his second major league start. He was shut down in late September because of some arm fatigue, but it was nothing that was expected to linger. Assuming that the rest of Boston's starters make it through the spring healthy, Buchholz is probably going to get some additional minor league time early on. He hardly needs it, but it could serve to keep his innings total down. He's still sure to have a chance to make a big impact this year, and he could prove to be an ace two or three years from now.

    2. Jacoby Ellsbury - OF - DOB: 09/11/83 - ETA: Now
    .453/.518/.644, 0 HR, 13 RBI, 7/6 K/BB, 8 SB in 73 AB (AA Portland)
    .298/.360/.380, 2 HR, 28 RBI, 47/32 K/BB, 33 SB in 363 AB (AAA Pawtucket)
    .353/.394/.509, 3 HR, 18 RBI, 15/8 K/BB, 9 SB in 116 AB (Red Sox)

    Ellsbury failed to excel in Triple-A after a red-hot start in Double-A last season, but he helped make up for that by hitting more homers during a 116-at-bat audition with the Red Sox than he had in 436 at-bats in the minors. Ellsbury already offers excellent defense and exceptional basestealing ability. He doesn't walk a whole lot, but his ability to make contact should see to it that he's at least a fair leadoff hitter. Whether he's truly the 10- or 15-homer guy he appeared to be during the final month of last year will determine if he's merely an above average regular or a future All-Star. Like Johnny Damon, he takes a completely different approach when he wants drive the ball. Most of the time, he's an inside-out guy. Since it seems to work for him, he could prove to be a better all-around hitter than the minor league numbers suggest. Either way, he should be a very good fantasy outfielder for the foreseeable future.

    3. Lars Anderson - 1B - DOB: 09/25/87 - ETA: 2010
    .288/.385/.443, 10 HR, 69 RBI, 112/71 K/BB, 2 SB in 458 AB (A- Greenville)
    .343/.489/.486, 1 HR, 9 RBI, 9/11 K/BB, 0 SB in 35 AB (A Lancaster)

    The Red Sox gambled on several big-ticket players in the 2006 draft, and while they couldn't land Matt LaPorta after selecting him in the 14th round, they did get Anderson, an 18th-rounder, to forgo his college scholarship by giving him supplemental first-round money. It looks like an outstanding investment so far. Anderson has an advanced approach and a swing that promises 30-homer power after he fills out. His glove lags behind his bat, but he'll be an adequate first baseman in time. He could prove to be a No. 3 or No. 4 hitter in a major league lineup.

    4. Jed Lowrie - SS - DOB: 04/17/84 - ETA: April 2009
    .297/.410/.501, 8 HR, 49 RBI, 58/65 K/BB, 5 SB in 337 AB (AA Portland)
    .300/.356/.506, 5 HR, 21 RBI, 33/12 K/BB, 0 SB in 160 AB (AAA Pawtucket)
    .163/.236/.245, 1 HR, 14 RBI, 14/10 K/BB, 3 SB in 98 AB (AFL Mesa)

    Lowrie isn't the new Dustin Pedroia, but the two share some similarities. Both put up great numbers at top college programs (Arizona State and Stanford, respectively), yet neither was looked at as a true first-rounder coming out of school because of a perceived lack of athleticism. The Red Sox drafted both and used them at shortstop, even though neither figured to stay there for long. Lowrie has displayed surprisingly strong range at the position, but since he doesn't have a great arm, he still projects better at second. One of the best hitters in the minors over the final four months of last season, Lowrie could be a doubles machine at Fenway. He's also strong enough to hit 10 homers per year, and he knows the value of a walk. Because they have no place to play him, the Red Sox are open to trading him. However, they're not going to let a potential above average regular go cheap.

    5. Michael Bowden - RHP - DOB: 09/09/86 - ETA: July 2009
    2-0, 1.37 ERA, 35 H, 46/8 K/BB in 46 IP (A Lancaster)
    8-6, 4.28 ERA, 105 H, 82/33 K/BB in 96 2/3 IP (AA Portland)

    The Red Sox had little choice but to go to Lancaster for two years once they were dumped by their Carolina League affiliate. Worried about what kind of an effect it would have on their top pitching prospects, they had Buccholz skip the level. However, Bowden did start the year there and ended up dominating for a month and a half, even though the conditions were proving even more inhospitable than predicted. Unfortunately, Bowden didn't keep it up after reaching Double-A in May. Left-handers hit .299 against him, and his flyball tendencies started catching up to him, though he did finish 5-2 with a 3.42 ERA in nine starts after the break. Bowden throws 91-95 mph and has a swing-and-miss curveball. If he can learn to spot that pitch better and improve his changeup, he'd be a potential top-of-the-rotation starter. As is, he looks like more of a No. 3 or No. 4.

    6. Justin Masterson - RHP - DOB: 03/22/85 - ETA: May 2009
    8-5, 4.33 ERA, 103 H, 56/22 K/BB in 95 2/3 IP (A Lancaster)
    4-3, 4.34 ERA, 49 H, 69/18 K/BB in 58 IP (AA Portland)

    A 4.33 ERA isn't normally the type of figure that gets a player moving up prospect lists, but Masterson did it while spending most of the season at Single-A Lancaster. Things were so crazy there that the JetHawks scored 1,081 runs in 140 games, despite not having any top prospects in the lineup. Masterson got moved up in July and didn't see his ERA drop in a more typical offensive environment, though he did improve both his strikeout and groundball rates. On the season, he got 2 ½ groundouts for every one through the air. It's his low-90s sinker that figures to be his ticket to the majors, though some still believe he'd be best utilized as a late-game reliever. He's shown signs of improving his changeup and he can get strikeouts with his slider, so he has a chance of developing into a No. 3 starter. He's more likely than Bowden to help out this year.

    7. Ryan Kalish - OF - DOB: 03/28/88 - ETA: 2011
    .368/.471/.540, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 12/16 K/BB, 18 SB in 87 AB (SS-A Lowell)

    It was just 23 games, but Kalish turned a lot of heads in the New York-Penn League before wrist surgery shut him down in mid-July. Like Anderson, he was bought away from a scholarship in 2006, getting second-round money despite being Boston's ninth-round pick. A left-handed hitter, Kalish offers very good speed and a terrific approach. His build suggests he'll be at least a 15-homer guy by the time he's a finished product. He may not stay in center -- the Red Sox shouldn't need him there anyway -- but he has the arm for right field. His appearance in the Johan Santana rumors won't be the last time he's mentioned in trade talks.

    8. Brandon Moss - OF - DOB: 09/16/83 - ETA: June 2008
    .282/.363/.471, 16 HR, 78 RBI, 148/61 K/BB, 3 SB in 493 AB (AAA Pawtucket)
    .280/.379/.440, 0 HR, 1 RBI, 6/4 K/BB, 0 SB in 25 AB (Boston)

    After maintaining a 900 OPS through the end of June, Moss slumped at Pawtucket over the final two months of the season, something that may have cost him his chance of making the Red Sox as a reserve this year. He still had a fine season for a 23-year-old in the International League. He hangs in pretty well against left-handers and he's a fine defensive right fielder capable of handling center when absolutely necessary. The Red Sox also have him working out at first base. Odds are that he'll never be good enough to start for Boston, but since he could post a solid average and hit 20 homers per year, maybe he'll get a look as a regular elsewhere. Another fast start would help his chances of being traded.

    9. Daniel Bard - RHP - DOB: 06/25/85 - ETA: 2010
    3-5, 6.42 ERA, 55 H, 38/56 K/BB in 61 2/3 IP (A- Greenville)
    0-2, 10.13 ERA, 21 H, 9/22 K/BB in 13 1/3 IP (A Lancaster)
    0-0, 1.08 ERA, 8 H, 15/15 K/BB in 16 2/3 IP (HWL Honolulu)

    Viewed as a top-10 talent in the 2006 draft, Bard slipped to No. 28 because of his bonus demands. The Red Sox got him signed too late for him to pitch in 2006 and then had him start 2007 at the ridiculous offensive environment at Lancaster. Bard was awful there and little better following his demotion, but he did bounce back as a reliever in the Hawaiian Winter League, even if he kept walking far too many guys. Bard still has one thing that can't be taught: a fastball that's topped out at 101 mph. He also possesses a slider than comes and goes as a plus pitch. Perhaps he's just a reliever, but he could prove to be a very good one.

    10. Oscar Tejeda - SS - DOB: 12/26/89 - ETA: 2013
    .295/.344/.399, 1 HR, 21 RBI, 27/15 K/BB, 6 SB in 173 AB (R GCL Red Sox)
    .298/.347/.394, 0 HR, 12 RBI, 26/6 K/BB, 4 SB in 94 AB (SS-A Lowell)

    Given a $550,000 bonus to sign out of the Dominican Republic in 2006, Tejeda is the one player in Boston's top 10 that wasn't drafted by the team. A talented defensive shortstop, Tejeda exceeded expectations by more than simply holding his own as a 17-year-old last year. It looks like he'll get a crack at full-season ball at age 18. Tejeda probably won't offer big-time power, but he hits plenty of liners and runs well. It'll be 2009 or 2010 before he's ready to put up particularly good minor league numbers.


    Next five: LHP Nick Hagadone, OF Jason Place, C George Kottaras, 1B Chris Carter, OF Josh Reddick

    Unwilling to pay the price for Johan Santana, the Red Sox still have what may be the game's deepest farm system. I think left-hander Kris Johnson would have made every other team's top 15. Craig Hansen, who had a little too much service time to qualify anyway, would have come in 17th. Two very notable 2007 draft picks, Will Middlebrooks and Ryan Dent, failed to crack the lists, as did big international signings Michael Almanzar and Che-Hsuan Lin. … Hagadone was Boston's top pick last year and offers middle-of-the-rotation potential. … Place, a 2006 first-rounder, remains a big-time project after striking out 160 times last season. Still, as one of the circuit's youngest players, he managed an OPS 35 points above the league average in Hawaii over the winter. … Kottaras hit .318/.389/.582 in the second half for Triple-A Pawtucket. He probably won't be a starting catcher, but he should contribute as a role player. … Reddick hit .306/.352/.531 as a 20-year-old in the Sally League.

    2007 top 15: Dustin Pedroia, Jacoby Ellsbury, Clay Buchholz, George Kottaras, Michael Bowden, Daniel Bard, Jason Place, Bryce Cox, Kris Johnson, Brandon Moss, Lars Anderson, David Murphy, Felix Doubront, Edgar Martinez, Justin Masterson
  • adam42381adam42381 Kernersville, NC Posts: 2,505
    JSBE wrote:
    Boston Red Sox

    1. Clay Buchholz - RHP - DOB: 08/14/84 - ETA: May 2008
    7-2, 1.77 ERA, 55 H, 116/22 K/BB in 86 2/3 IP (AA Portland)
    1-3, 3.96 ERA, 32 H, 55/13 K/BB in 38 2/3 IP (AAA Pawtucket)
    3-1, 1.59 ERA, 14 H, 22/10 K/BB in 22 2/3 IP (Red Sox)

    A 2005 supplemental first-round earned through the loss of Pedro Martinez to the Mets, Buchholz emerged as the game's top pitching prospect during the middle of last season, only to be challenged by Joba Chamberlain by year's end. Using a 91-95 mph fastball and two outstanding complimentary pitches in his curve and changeup, the Texas native was able to pitch a no-hitter versus the Orioles in just his second major league start. He was shut down in late September because of some arm fatigue, but it was nothing that was expected to linger. Assuming that the rest of Boston's starters make it through the spring healthy, Buchholz is probably going to get some additional minor league time early on. He hardly needs it, but it could serve to keep his innings total down. He's still sure to have a chance to make a big impact this year, and he could prove to be an ace two or three years from now.

    2. Jacoby Ellsbury - OF - DOB: 09/11/83 - ETA: Now
    .453/.518/.644, 0 HR, 13 RBI, 7/6 K/BB, 8 SB in 73 AB (AA Portland)
    .298/.360/.380, 2 HR, 28 RBI, 47/32 K/BB, 33 SB in 363 AB (AAA Pawtucket)
    .353/.394/.509, 3 HR, 18 RBI, 15/8 K/BB, 9 SB in 116 AB (Red Sox)

    Ellsbury failed to excel in Triple-A after a red-hot start in Double-A last season, but he helped make up for that by hitting more homers during a 116-at-bat audition with the Red Sox than he had in 436 at-bats in the minors. Ellsbury already offers excellent defense and exceptional basestealing ability. He doesn't walk a whole lot, but his ability to make contact should see to it that he's at least a fair leadoff hitter. Whether he's truly the 10- or 15-homer guy he appeared to be during the final month of last year will determine if he's merely an above average regular or a future All-Star. Like Johnny Damon, he takes a completely different approach when he wants drive the ball. Most of the time, he's an inside-out guy. Since it seems to work for him, he could prove to be a better all-around hitter than the minor league numbers suggest. Either way, he should be a very good fantasy outfielder for the foreseeable future.

    3. Lars Anderson - 1B - DOB: 09/25/87 - ETA: 2010
    .288/.385/.443, 10 HR, 69 RBI, 112/71 K/BB, 2 SB in 458 AB (A- Greenville)
    .343/.489/.486, 1 HR, 9 RBI, 9/11 K/BB, 0 SB in 35 AB (A Lancaster)

    The Red Sox gambled on several big-ticket players in the 2006 draft, and while they couldn't land Matt LaPorta after selecting him in the 14th round, they did get Anderson, an 18th-rounder, to forgo his college scholarship by giving him supplemental first-round money. It looks like an outstanding investment so far. Anderson has an advanced approach and a swing that promises 30-homer power after he fills out. His glove lags behind his bat, but he'll be an adequate first baseman in time. He could prove to be a No. 3 or No. 4 hitter in a major league lineup.

    4. Jed Lowrie - SS - DOB: 04/17/84 - ETA: April 2009
    .297/.410/.501, 8 HR, 49 RBI, 58/65 K/BB, 5 SB in 337 AB (AA Portland)
    .300/.356/.506, 5 HR, 21 RBI, 33/12 K/BB, 0 SB in 160 AB (AAA Pawtucket)
    .163/.236/.245, 1 HR, 14 RBI, 14/10 K/BB, 3 SB in 98 AB (AFL Mesa)

    Lowrie isn't the new Dustin Pedroia, but the two share some similarities. Both put up great numbers at top college programs (Arizona State and Stanford, respectively), yet neither was looked at as a true first-rounder coming out of school because of a perceived lack of athleticism. The Red Sox drafted both and used them at shortstop, even though neither figured to stay there for long. Lowrie has displayed surprisingly strong range at the position, but since he doesn't have a great arm, he still projects better at second. One of the best hitters in the minors over the final four months of last season, Lowrie could be a doubles machine at Fenway. He's also strong enough to hit 10 homers per year, and he knows the value of a walk. Because they have no place to play him, the Red Sox are open to trading him. However, they're not going to let a potential above average regular go cheap.

    5. Michael Bowden - RHP - DOB: 09/09/86 - ETA: July 2009
    2-0, 1.37 ERA, 35 H, 46/8 K/BB in 46 IP (A Lancaster)
    8-6, 4.28 ERA, 105 H, 82/33 K/BB in 96 2/3 IP (AA Portland)

    The Red Sox had little choice but to go to Lancaster for two years once they were dumped by their Carolina League affiliate. Worried about what kind of an effect it would have on their top pitching prospects, they had Buccholz skip the level. However, Bowden did start the year there and ended up dominating for a month and a half, even though the conditions were proving even more inhospitable than predicted. Unfortunately, Bowden didn't keep it up after reaching Double-A in May. Left-handers hit .299 against him, and his flyball tendencies started catching up to him, though he did finish 5-2 with a 3.42 ERA in nine starts after the break. Bowden throws 91-95 mph and has a swing-and-miss curveball. If he can learn to spot that pitch better and improve his changeup, he'd be a potential top-of-the-rotation starter. As is, he looks like more of a No. 3 or No. 4.

    6. Justin Masterson - RHP - DOB: 03/22/85 - ETA: May 2009
    8-5, 4.33 ERA, 103 H, 56/22 K/BB in 95 2/3 IP (A Lancaster)
    4-3, 4.34 ERA, 49 H, 69/18 K/BB in 58 IP (AA Portland)

    A 4.33 ERA isn't normally the type of figure that gets a player moving up prospect lists, but Masterson did it while spending most of the season at Single-A Lancaster. Things were so crazy there that the JetHawks scored 1,081 runs in 140 games, despite not having any top prospects in the lineup. Masterson got moved up in July and didn't see his ERA drop in a more typical offensive environment, though he did improve both his strikeout and groundball rates. On the season, he got 2 ½ groundouts for every one through the air. It's his low-90s sinker that figures to be his ticket to the majors, though some still believe he'd be best utilized as a late-game reliever. He's shown signs of improving his changeup and he can get strikeouts with his slider, so he has a chance of developing into a No. 3 starter. He's more likely than Bowden to help out this year.

    7. Ryan Kalish - OF - DOB: 03/28/88 - ETA: 2011
    .368/.471/.540, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 12/16 K/BB, 18 SB in 87 AB (SS-A Lowell)

    It was just 23 games, but Kalish turned a lot of heads in the New York-Penn League before wrist surgery shut him down in mid-July. Like Anderson, he was bought away from a scholarship in 2006, getting second-round money despite being Boston's ninth-round pick. A left-handed hitter, Kalish offers very good speed and a terrific approach. His build suggests he'll be at least a 15-homer guy by the time he's a finished product. He may not stay in center -- the Red Sox shouldn't need him there anyway -- but he has the arm for right field. His appearance in the Johan Santana rumors won't be the last time he's mentioned in trade talks.

    8. Brandon Moss - OF - DOB: 09/16/83 - ETA: June 2008
    .282/.363/.471, 16 HR, 78 RBI, 148/61 K/BB, 3 SB in 493 AB (AAA Pawtucket)
    .280/.379/.440, 0 HR, 1 RBI, 6/4 K/BB, 0 SB in 25 AB (Boston)

    After maintaining a 900 OPS through the end of June, Moss slumped at Pawtucket over the final two months of the season, something that may have cost him his chance of making the Red Sox as a reserve this year. He still had a fine season for a 23-year-old in the International League. He hangs in pretty well against left-handers and he's a fine defensive right fielder capable of handling center when absolutely necessary. The Red Sox also have him working out at first base. Odds are that he'll never be good enough to start for Boston, but since he could post a solid average and hit 20 homers per year, maybe he'll get a look as a regular elsewhere. Another fast start would help his chances of being traded.

    9. Daniel Bard - RHP - DOB: 06/25/85 - ETA: 2010
    3-5, 6.42 ERA, 55 H, 38/56 K/BB in 61 2/3 IP (A- Greenville)
    0-2, 10.13 ERA, 21 H, 9/22 K/BB in 13 1/3 IP (A Lancaster)
    0-0, 1.08 ERA, 8 H, 15/15 K/BB in 16 2/3 IP (HWL Honolulu)

    Viewed as a top-10 talent in the 2006 draft, Bard slipped to No. 28 because of his bonus demands. The Red Sox got him signed too late for him to pitch in 2006 and then had him start 2007 at the ridiculous offensive environment at Lancaster. Bard was awful there and little better following his demotion, but he did bounce back as a reliever in the Hawaiian Winter League, even if he kept walking far too many guys. Bard still has one thing that can't be taught: a fastball that's topped out at 101 mph. He also possesses a slider than comes and goes as a plus pitch. Perhaps he's just a reliever, but he could prove to be a very good one.

    10. Oscar Tejeda - SS - DOB: 12/26/89 - ETA: 2013
    .295/.344/.399, 1 HR, 21 RBI, 27/15 K/BB, 6 SB in 173 AB (R GCL Red Sox)
    .298/.347/.394, 0 HR, 12 RBI, 26/6 K/BB, 4 SB in 94 AB (SS-A Lowell)

    Given a $550,000 bonus to sign out of the Dominican Republic in 2006, Tejeda is the one player in Boston's top 10 that wasn't drafted by the team. A talented defensive shortstop, Tejeda exceeded expectations by more than simply holding his own as a 17-year-old last year. It looks like he'll get a crack at full-season ball at age 18. Tejeda probably won't offer big-time power, but he hits plenty of liners and runs well. It'll be 2009 or 2010 before he's ready to put up particularly good minor league numbers.


    Next five: LHP Nick Hagadone, OF Jason Place, C George Kottaras, 1B Chris Carter, OF Josh Reddick

    Unwilling to pay the price for Johan Santana, the Red Sox still have what may be the game's deepest farm system. I think left-hander Kris Johnson would have made every other team's top 15. Craig Hansen, who had a little too much service time to qualify anyway, would have come in 17th. Two very notable 2007 draft picks, Will Middlebrooks and Ryan Dent, failed to crack the lists, as did big international signings Michael Almanzar and Che-Hsuan Lin. … Hagadone was Boston's top pick last year and offers middle-of-the-rotation potential. … Place, a 2006 first-rounder, remains a big-time project after striking out 160 times last season. Still, as one of the circuit's youngest players, he managed an OPS 35 points above the league average in Hawaii over the winter. … Kottaras hit .318/.389/.582 in the second half for Triple-A Pawtucket. He probably won't be a starting catcher, but he should contribute as a role player. … Reddick hit .306/.352/.531 as a 20-year-old in the Sally League.

    2007 top 15: Dustin Pedroia, Jacoby Ellsbury, Clay Buchholz, George Kottaras, Michael Bowden, Daniel Bard, Jason Place, Bryce Cox, Kris Johnson, Brandon Moss, Lars Anderson, David Murphy, Felix Doubront, Edgar Martinez, Justin Masterson

    Well done. I'm excited about the strength of our farm system right now. We have a lot of talent that will be very helpful in the future.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    The Sox resigned Bobby Kielty and this story cracked me up:

    Rudy roots for the Red Sox?

    http://www.globesports.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080205.wsptgiuliani5/GSStory/GlobeSportsBaseball/home
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,296
    he was quoted in the journal news, i guess he was trying to get some votes in new england...


    "I'm an American League fan,"

    that was his response
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    he was quoted in the journal news, i guess he was trying to get some votes in new england...


    "I'm an American League fan,"

    that was his response

    I know the story, but its just funny that he's going to immortalized in a baseball card celebrating a Red Sox World Series victory.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    It's not exactly Groundhog Day, but it's as much a sign that spring is around the corner in New England as any shadow-seeking critter. That's right, Sox fans, Truck Day is almost here.

    The 18-wheeler that carries the Red Sox' spring training equipment from Boston to Fort Myers, Fla. departs Fenway Park on Saturday morning to make the 1,467-mile trek from Yawkey Way to Edison Avenue.
    It probably won't cure your Patritos hangover, but it's at least a step in the right direction.

    If you just can't wait until Saturday morning to see photos of the truck being loaded up with bats, balls, and any other stuff the Sox might need in Fort Myers (a motorcycle or two, perhaps?), check out our photo gallery from last year's Truck Day. Or the one in 2006. Chances are, the sights will be very similar.

    Planning on heading to Fort Myers to catch the Sox at spring training? Be sure to check out our fan's guide to the area before you go.

    Here are some key Sox spring training dates that are just around the corner:

    Feb. 14 -- Pitchers and catchers are due to report to Fort Myers.
    Feb. 16 -- First workout for pitchers and catchers.
    Feb. 20 -- Reporting day for Sox position players.
    Feb. 22 -- First Red Sox full squad workout.
    Feb. 28 -- First Red Sox spring training game.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,196
    JSBE wrote:
    It's not exactly Groundhog Day, but it's as much a sign that spring is around the corner in New England as any shadow-seeking critter. That's right, Sox fans, Truck Day is almost here.

    The 18-wheeler that carries the Red Sox' spring training equipment from Boston to Fort Myers, Fla. departs Fenway Park on Saturday morning to make the 1,467-mile trek from Yawkey Way to Edison Avenue.
    It probably won't cure your Patritos hangover, but it's at least a step in the right direction.

    If you just can't wait until Saturday morning to see photos of the truck being loaded up with bats, balls, and any other stuff the Sox might need in Fort Myers (a motorcycle or two, perhaps?), check out our photo gallery from last year's Truck Day. Or the one in 2006. Chances are, the sights will be very similar.

    Planning on heading to Fort Myers to catch the Sox at spring training? Be sure to check out our fan's guide to the area before you go.

    Here are some key Sox spring training dates that are just around the corner:

    Feb. 14 -- Pitchers and catchers are due to report to Fort Myers.
    Feb. 16 -- First workout for pitchers and catchers.
    Feb. 20 -- Reporting day for Sox position players.
    Feb. 22 -- First Red Sox full squad workout.
    Feb. 28 -- First Red Sox spring training game.

    I'll be making that drive west across florida to Fort Meyers for Opening Day of Spring Training. I can't wait just the drive around Lake Okeechobee is worth it and I don't have any tickets.

    We had that problem last year but buying a ticket out front is not a problem. It shouldn't be a problem this year even though the Red Sox are the defending orld Champions.

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  • Schilling done?? Possibly. Bum shoulder,..but won't say how.
    Sox may try to get out of the contract
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    Schilling done?? Possibly. Bum shoulder,..but won't say how.
    Sox may try to get out of the contract

    yeah, that came out of nowhere. if schilling can't go to start the season, i guess that just opens a spot for buchholz in the rotation.
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