Boston Red Sox

Solat13

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

I wish you were right but there's just too much dullness with our bats. Drew has been the shits for the most part, V-tek hasn't been the same in forever (better than last year though), Papi is still not hitting his weight and Bay has been hot and cold. I'd like Halliday more than any hitting, but how much are you going to give up for him. If Cleveland gave up both Lee and Francisco for next to nothing, we should be able to get at least Martinez from them for prospects other than Bucholtz (sic?).

I discussed this with one of my fellow Red Sox fans in Philly last night at softball after the rumors surfaced that Boston was still in the Halladay game.

Boston trades 3, 4 or 5 prospects for Halladay. After the season, they trade Papelbon who's two years from free agency for 2 or 3 prospects. They then install Bard as closer who they have control for 6 years before he becomes a free agent. They let Halladay walk after next season and get two first round picks. Then use the money saved from Papelbon and Halladay to sign Felix Hernandez when he's 25 and a free agent.

Theo always makes moves that are part of a bigger move. The fun part is trying to see the chess game unfold.

YourDirtisMyfood

Solat13 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

I wish you were right but there's just too much dullness with our bats. Drew has been the shits for the most part, V-tek hasn't been the same in forever (better than last year though), Papi is still not hitting his weight and Bay has been hot and cold. I'd like Halliday more than any hitting, but how much are you going to give up for him. If Cleveland gave up both Lee and Francisco for next to nothing, we should be able to get at least Martinez from them for prospects other than Bucholtz (sic?).

I discussed this with one of my fellow Red Sox fans in Philly last night at softball after the rumors surfaced that Boston was still in the Halladay game.

Boston trades 3, 4 or 5 prospects for Halladay. After the season, they trade Papelbon who's two years from free agency for 2 or 3 prospects. They then install Bard as closer who they have control for 6 years before he becomes a free agent. They let Halladay walk after next season and get two first round picks. Then use the money saved from Papelbon and Halladay to sign Felix Hernandez when he's 25 and a free agent.

Theo always makes moves that are part of a bigger move. The fun part is trying to see the chess game unfold.

Theo is also the guy who coveted Julio Lugo when he was with Tampa Bay and Ray Charles could see that Lugo wasn't quite that good even w/Tampa. What will Towers want for Adrian Gonzales? He has a lot of upside and is still young (and a Gold Glover w/almost 30 bombs already).

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YourDirtisMyfood

um, so when does the Patriots season start?

jimed14

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

Theo is also the guy who coveted Julio Lugo when he was with Tampa Bay and Ray Charles could see that Lugo wasn't quite that good even w/Tampa. What will Towers want for Adrian Gonzales? He has a lot of upside and is still young (and a Gold Glover w/almost 30 bombs already).

I'd say Theo's been more hit than miss ... he's jinxed at the shortstop position though (see Edgar Rentaria for further proof).

I do NOT see the Padres trading Adrian Gonzales ... he's a stud, he's young (27), he's Mexican (huge fan draw for Southern California based team) and he's cheap ... 2010: $4.75M, 2011: $5.5M club option (no buyout)

They'd need even more than the Blue Jays would want for Halladay.

YourDirtisMyfood

I just can't believe it.






Thread labeled "Noooooooooooooooooooo!"

jimed14

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

I just can't believe it.

Thread labeled "Noooooooooooooooooooo!"

may want to rename your thread or else it will be lost ... (mislabeled threads are a pet peave of mine)

not surprised at all ... just wish Ortiz wasn't all high and mighty about it a few months back.

YourDirtisMyfood

jimed14 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

I just can't believe it.

Thread labeled "Noooooooooooooooooooo!"

may want to rename your thread or else it will be lost ... (mislabeled threads are a pet peave of mine)

not surprised at all ... just wish Ortiz wasn't all high and mighty about it a few months back.

I mean the lovable Papi! I am a little surprised, but I'm a little naive anyways.

Ever see those PSAs with Papi and Mayor Menino? Who's more coherent in those? It's like it was a practical joke putting those two together.

YourDirtisMyfood

Who's doing the color right now? Sounds like Remy, but don't see any news anywhere.

jimed14

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

Who's doing the color right now? Sounds like Remy, but don't see any news anywhere.

I have the Oakland feed, no Boston feed.

there's nothing on NESN.com about it ... so, I'm guessing it's not him.

last night it was Eck ... they've also had Dave Roberts and Brian Daubach in as color guys too.

YourDirtisMyfood

jimed14 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

Who's doing the color right now? Sounds like Remy, but don't see any news anywhere.

I have the Oakland feed, no Boston feed.

there's nothing on NESN.com about it ... so, I'm guessing it's not him.

last night it was Eck ... they've also had Dave Roberts and Brian Daubach in as color guys too.

sounds like Bob Montgomery.

BTW, is it true that there are signs in SF that say "no honking?"

Drop The Leash 10

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

I just can't believe it.

Thread labeled "Noooooooooooooooooooo!"

may want to rename your thread or else it will be lost ... (mislabeled threads are a pet peave of mine)

not surprised at all ... just wish Ortiz wasn't all high and mighty about it a few months back.

I mean the lovable Papi! I am a little surprised, but I'm a little naive anyways.

Ever see those PSAs with Papi and Mayor Menino? Who's more coherent in those? It's like it was a practical joke putting those two together.

yeah neither of them knew how to talk

jimed14

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

BTW, is it true that there are signs in SF that say "no honking?"

random change of subject, but, yes, like NYC, unnecessary honking can draw a fine.

YourDirtisMyfood

jimed14 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

BTW, is it true that there are signs in SF that say "no honking?"

random change of subject, but, yes, like NYC, unnecessary honking can draw a fine.

my sis in law just ran the marathon and i happened to see ur location and remembered that was one of the things out there that was funny. didn't know about nyc.

YourDirtisMyfood

looks like they're going head first for gonzalez with maybe heath bell thrown in. it's a start. wouldn't mind vicma thrown in or make a f'n deal for Mauer already!

Solat13

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

looks like they're going head first for gonzalez with maybe heath bell thrown in. it's a start. wouldn't mind vicma thrown in or make a f'n deal for Mauer already!

I'm not really a fan of getting Gonzalez. If you're going to move high level prospects, don't trade for a position where you are already overloaded. You already have Youk, Ortiz, LaRoche, and Lowell with only three spots for DH/1B/3B.

Plus you can't move LaRoche in the deal because he makes more than Gonzalez so why would the Padres take him back.

The Red Sox should roll the dice and go for Halladay. The Blue Jays have to trade him tomorrow or they won't trade him at all. I can't picture Halladay waiving his no trade clause again in the offseason or next year after the fiasco this has become.

YourDirtisMyfood

Solat13 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

looks like they're going head first for gonzalez with maybe heath bell thrown in. it's a start. wouldn't mind vicma thrown in or make a f'n deal for Mauer already!

I'm not really a fan of getting Gonzalez. If you're going to move high level prospects, don't trade for a position where you are already overloaded. You already have Youk, Ortiz, LaRoche, and Lowell with only three spots for DH/1B/3B.

Plus you can't move LaRoche in the deal because he makes more than Gonzalez so why would the Padres take him back.

The Red Sox should roll the dice and go for Halladay. The Blue Jays have to trade him tomorrow or they won't trade him at all. I can't picture Halladay waiving his no trade clause again in the offseason or next year after the fiasco this has become.

I don't know why they went and got Laroche in the first place as he wasn't cheap and they have their sights on Gonzales. I can see Adrian at first, Youk at third, Papi the DH with Lowell and Laroche backing up or pinch hitting where needed. Lowell isn't getting any younger and you don't want a Bill Buckner situation at 3rd where he is not good defensively anymore.

YourDirtisMyfood

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4368061

Solat13

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

Solat13 wrote:

YourDirtisMyfood wrote:

looks like they're going head first for gonzalez with maybe heath bell thrown in. it's a start. wouldn't mind vicma thrown in or make a f'n deal for Mauer already!

I'm not really a fan of getting Gonzalez. If you're going to move high level prospects, don't trade for a position where you are already overloaded. You already have Youk, Ortiz, LaRoche, and Lowell with only three spots for DH/1B/3B.

Plus you can't move LaRoche in the deal because he makes more than Gonzalez so why would the Padres take him back.

The Red Sox should roll the dice and go for Halladay. The Blue Jays have to trade him tomorrow or they won't trade him at all. I can't picture Halladay waiving his no trade clause again in the offseason or next year after the fiasco this has become.

I don't know why they went and got Laroche in the first place as he wasn't cheap and they have their sights on Gonzales. I can see Adrian at first, Youk at third, Papi the DH with Lowell and Laroche backing up or pinch hitting where needed. Lowell isn't getting any younger and you don't want a Bill Buckner situation at 3rd where he is not good defensively anymore.

Except that the Sox carry 12 pitchers.

So with a back up catcher, Lowell and LaRoche as backups that leaves one person as back up middle infielder or a 4th OFer. So you can't have both Lowell and LaRoche on the bench.

Lowell has a higher fielding percentage and higher range factor than Youk at third this year. He's not as good as 2007 but he's still in the upper half of third basemen defensively.

YourDirtisMyfood

where does papi confirm he used in this story?

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9872 ... Ds-in-2003