Let me guess, Orton pins Umaga for the belt, setting up the next 3 pay per views worth of Orton vs HHH.
Is that you, Steph????
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I just think its a decent opportunity to pull a rabbit out of their hats and do something no one is expecting. If its just going to be a boring Orton-HHH-Umaga match for the title, why don't they announce it. Do they really think people will be surprised if they wait until Sunday to say thats the new title match? You would HOPE that by not announcing it, they are using that as an opportunity to setup something pretty cool. But "no chance" that happens.
I just think its a decent opportunity to pull a rabbit out of their hats and do something no one is expecting. If its just going to be a boring Orton-HHH-Umaga match for the title, why don't they announce it. Do they really think people will be surprised if they wait until Sunday to say thats the new title match? You would HOPE that by not announcing it, they are using that as an opportunity to setup something pretty cool. But "no chance" that happens.
Do you know why wrestling was so successful between '96-'01?
You didn't know what to expect. Who expect Hogan to turn? Who expected NWO? Who expected the Attitude era from sugar-coated WWE?
Lost leaves me with a cliff-hanger from week to week...why can't they come up with intelligent storylines that are somewhat realistic?
I couldn't wait for Raw/Nitro to come on and I hated when it ended each Monday...those days are long gone.
I keep hoping TNA will rise up and shake things up.
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i haven't watched wrestling in years, but i used to go to all these indy shows in the elks lodge at queens and ring of honor and me and my friends would heckle the wrestlers a lot. actually it's more like i would say the line and he would yell it. one time we saw d'lo brown, who in real life is an accountant so me and my friend kept yelling at d'lo telling him how he messed up our taxes..
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Do you know why wrestling was so successful between '96-'01?
You didn't know what to expect. Who expect Hogan to turn? Who expected NWO? Who expected the Attitude era from sugar-coated WWE?
Agreed. And thats exactly what I'm talking about. They have the perfect opportunity to throw everyone a curveball this weekend with Cena being injured and the belt vacant.
They've had ample "perfect opportunities" over the past 5 or 6 years and they continue to screw them up.
•Invasion Angle: How can you screw something like that up?
•Rebirth of ECW: If they could've continued on after that Hammerstein show, things would have been great...but they got scared.
Plus, the fact that we'll never see Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan is a shame. Mostly, it's on the part of the individuals, but nevertheless.
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"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
They've had ample "perfect opportunities" over the past 5 or 6 years and they continue to screw them up.
•Invasion Angle: How can you screw something like that up?
•Rebirth of ECW: If they could've continued on after that Hammerstein show, things would have been great...but they got scared.
Plus, the fact that we'll never see Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan is a shame. Mostly, it's on the part of the individuals, but nevertheless.
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Very true, they have had plenty of at bats and they continue to strike out. I guess I thought this might be different, only because they didn't immediately announce a replacement title match for Sunday. Maybe it was just me being optimistic hoping things would change.
But I don't even like talking about ECW cause its not even the same thing. You can't take a shit in your hand and stamp 3 letters on it making people want to watch it. Its not even a shell of its former self.
But I don't even like talking about ECW cause its not even the same thing. You can't take a shit in your hand and stamp 3 letters on it making people want to watch it. Its not even a shell of its former self.
I agree...but that Hammerstein show show back in Aug '06 was classic. I still have it TiVo'd at home.
The NY crowd was hot that night and they acted like an old school ECW crowd.
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"I can't tell you what's in (Vince McMahon's) mind, but there is a theory that I have had in the last year or so. He always hated the fact that at his shows, in front of 20,000 people, as opposed to the thousand or two thousand that we would run in front of, people would yell ECW when they liked something. That became synonymous in this business with saying, "We like this." Not just a hardcore spot. Anything. It was off-the-charts different. Whenever they'd yell "ECW, ECW," it made Vince crazy. Because we were like the so-called innovator back then and he hated the fact that everyone in his building, that he paid for, people were yelling someone else's call letters. And no one had ever done that. No one was at anyone else's shows yelling "WWF" or "WCW." They didn't understand what the concept was. They didn't understand that they weren't saying, "Yes. ECW is the greatest thing in the world." They were saying, "We like this. This is good stuff." That was their way of approval… Slowly but surely, you'll notice, very rarely anymore will you be at a WWE show and hear them start yelling "ECW" because of some crazy, sick table spot or fire spot. He's finally started to get that out of the lexicon. It'll always be part of the lexicon…but he made people think that's what ECW is. And why would you want to chant "ECW, ECW" when ECW is all about Kelly Kelly and Miz? It's not what they wanted."
It's actually a pretty good theory.
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
"I can't tell you what's in (Vince McMahon's) mind, but there is a theory that I have had in the last year or so. He always hated the fact that at his shows, in front of 20,000 people, as opposed to the thousand or two thousand that we would run in front of, people would yell ECW when they liked something. That became synonymous in this business with saying, "We like this." Not just a hardcore spot. Anything. It was off-the-charts different. Whenever they'd yell "ECW, ECW," it made Vince crazy. Because we were like the so-called innovator back then and he hated the fact that everyone in his building, that he paid for, people were yelling someone else's call letters. And no one had ever done that. No one was at anyone else's shows yelling "WWF" or "WCW." They didn't understand what the concept was. They didn't understand that they weren't saying, "Yes. ECW is the greatest thing in the world." They were saying, "We like this. This is good stuff." That was their way of approval… Slowly but surely, you'll notice, very rarely anymore will you be at a WWE show and hear them start yelling "ECW" because of some crazy, sick table spot or fire spot. He's finally started to get that out of the lexicon. It'll always be part of the lexicon…but he made people think that's what ECW is. And why would you want to chant "ECW, ECW" when ECW is all about Kelly Kelly and Miz? It's not what they wanted."
It's actually a pretty good theory.
Good little read.......it's all about Vince, baby.
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Anyone read RVD'S interview in Power Slam this month?
No, what did he have to say?
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Waiting for Jericho has become like Waiting for Godot.
Has it been officially confirmed? Because I imagine there will be a lot of pissed off fans if this thing doesn't turn out to be him.
He has a book coming out...could be milking the exposure.
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"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Has it been officially confirmed? Because I imagine there will be a lot of pissed off fans if this thing doesn't turn out to be him.
He has a book coming out...could be milking the exposure.
PBM
There are numerous reports that Stephanie is quite pissed off because people correctly identified the Save_Us clips to Jericho's return. She even went so far as to check the phone records and computer files of the writers to see if anyone had leaked it.
It was heavily rumored that Jericho was supposed to have returned this last Monday on RAW, but it didn't happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding back on his return out of spite now.
It was heavily rumored that Jericho was supposed to have returned this last Monday on RAW, but it didn't happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding back on his return out of spite now.
I read that RAW ratings have been up lately (especially last Monday) because folks (in theory) have been tuning in for Jericho's return.
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I wish they could go back to when they'd have guys come back unexpectedly. Seems like anyone that gets injured has 4-6 weeks worth of promos on all the shows, and then re-debuts at the next ppv. Granted the internet spoils alot of that. But still look at next week, instead of just having Austin show up they have to advertise it all week. I think if they just start randomly having guys show up, more people tune in cause they don't know when/where it will happen. I'm sure the rating will spike next week, but then they'll go right back down the following.
Chris Masters and DH Smith (Davey Boy's son who has been with the company for about 6 minutes) have both been suspended for drugs. For masters, it's a 2nd suspension
Anyone read RVD'S interview in Power Slam this month?
If you have the scoop, some of us would be interested in hearing it??? BTW....is RVD still part of WWE????
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I only read bits of it - I only had a minute or two to spare - but as far as I can tell, he's done with wrestling.:(
He also had some choice words about McMahon...
:( :( Damn, and he was probably my fave.
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Him being done with WWE wouldn't have bothered me. He said that it had become just a job, rather than something he enjoyed doing, so I can see why he wanted to go out on top. But I could see him doing really well in TNA... but he didn't seem that interested.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
I tuned in to see Jericho make his return. I enjoyed the pop he got, but unless there is a major shake up with the writing staff, his return is pointless.
He'll be shoveling dog poop in 6 months.
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"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
I tuned in to see Jericho make his return. I enjoyed the pop he got, but unless there is a major shake up with the writing staff, his return is pointless.
I tuned in to see Jericho make his return. I enjoyed the pop he got, but unless there is a major shake up with the writing staff, his return is pointless.
He'll be shoveling dog poop in 6 months.
PBM
I watched the last 15 minutes, knowing thats when they'd have Jericho come out. The pop was cool. Interesting to see him confront Orton as well, I wonder if part of his deal was giving him the belt right away....And by right away I mean drag it out 2-3 PPVs with DQ and countout endings.
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Exactly....sadly.
I just think its a decent opportunity to pull a rabbit out of their hats and do something no one is expecting. If its just going to be a boring Orton-HHH-Umaga match for the title, why don't they announce it. Do they really think people will be surprised if they wait until Sunday to say thats the new title match? You would HOPE that by not announcing it, they are using that as an opportunity to setup something pretty cool. But "no chance" that happens.
Do you know why wrestling was so successful between '96-'01?
You didn't know what to expect. Who expect Hogan to turn? Who expected NWO? Who expected the Attitude era from sugar-coated WWE?
Lost leaves me with a cliff-hanger from week to week...why can't they come up with intelligent storylines that are somewhat realistic?
I couldn't wait for Raw/Nitro to come on and I hated when it ended each Monday...those days are long gone.
I keep hoping TNA will rise up and shake things up.
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Agreed. And thats exactly what I'm talking about. They have the perfect opportunity to throw everyone a curveball this weekend with Cena being injured and the belt vacant.
They've had ample "perfect opportunities" over the past 5 or 6 years and they continue to screw them up.
•Invasion Angle: How can you screw something like that up?
•Rebirth of ECW: If they could've continued on after that Hammerstein show, things would have been great...but they got scared.
Plus, the fact that we'll never see Steve Austin vs. Hulk Hogan is a shame. Mostly, it's on the part of the individuals, but nevertheless.
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Very true, they have had plenty of at bats and they continue to strike out. I guess I thought this might be different, only because they didn't immediately announce a replacement title match for Sunday. Maybe it was just me being optimistic hoping things would change.
But I don't even like talking about ECW cause its not even the same thing. You can't take a shit in your hand and stamp 3 letters on it making people want to watch it. Its not even a shell of its former self.
I agree...but that Hammerstein show show back in Aug '06 was classic. I still have it TiVo'd at home.
The NY crowd was hot that night and they acted like an old school ECW crowd.
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Yeah I rented it, it was bad ass for sure. Nothing like what they have now.
It's actually a pretty good theory.
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No, what did he have to say?
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Has it been officially confirmed? Because I imagine there will be a lot of pissed off fans if this thing doesn't turn out to be him.
He has a book coming out...could be milking the exposure.
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There are numerous reports that Stephanie is quite pissed off because people correctly identified the Save_Us clips to Jericho's return. She even went so far as to check the phone records and computer files of the writers to see if anyone had leaked it.
It was heavily rumored that Jericho was supposed to have returned this last Monday on RAW, but it didn't happen. I wouldn't be surprised if they are holding back on his return out of spite now.
I read that RAW ratings have been up lately (especially last Monday) because folks (in theory) have been tuning in for Jericho's return.
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I only read bits of it - I only had a minute or two to spare - but as far as I can tell, he's done with wrestling.:(
He also had some choice words about McMahon...
Him being done with WWE wouldn't have bothered me. He said that it had become just a job, rather than something he enjoyed doing, so I can see why he wanted to go out on top. But I could see him doing really well in TNA... but he didn't seem that interested.
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I tuned in to see Jericho make his return. I enjoyed the pop he got, but unless there is a major shake up with the writing staff, his return is pointless.
He'll be shoveling dog poop in 6 months.
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I watched the last 15 minutes, knowing thats when they'd have Jericho come out. The pop was cool. Interesting to see him confront Orton as well, I wonder if part of his deal was giving him the belt right away....And by right away I mean drag it out 2-3 PPVs with DQ and countout endings.