anyone watch wrestling society extreme on mtv on tuseday nights
Caught a bit of it last week......a little over the top, but there's a chance that it could evolve into something interesting...........not a big fan of Sean Whitman.
"Spot Monkeys" was what the show made me think of.....
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
TNA droped the ball big time.yeah they should show 2 of the ultimate x matches, those were fucking awsome. also no 6 sides of match between AMW and i forget the other tag team with all the weapons on the cage. anyone watch wrestling society extreme on mtv on tuseday nights
Instead of the six sides of steel featuring Styles/Daniels/LAX, I think TNA should have showed their Ultimate X tag title match from the previous PPV.
Also, if they wanted to showcase Samoa Joe matches, it would have been better to broadcast one or two from late 2005, when Joe was feuding with Styles and Daniels for the X Division title.
And there better be the Canadian Destroyer, dammit.
Also, if they wanted to showcase Samoa Joe matches, it would have been better to broadcast one or two from late 2005, when Joe was feuding with Styles and Daniels for the X Division title.
And there better be the Canadian Destroyer, dammit.
yes it would have been so much better or just go live for 2 hours. this might sound a little like a pipe dream, but id love for paul heyman to run tna, hed do wonders with the talent of the x division
Caught a bit of it last week......a little over the top, but there's a chance that it could evolve into something interesting...........not a big fan of Sean Whitman.
"Spot Monkeys" was what the show made me think of.....
ill say one thing bout wrestling society X, its a hell of lot better then this new ecw or raw
Ron: I just don't feel like going out tonight
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Caught a bit of it last week......a little over the top, but there's a chance that it could evolve into something interesting...........not a big fan of Sean Whitman.
"Spot Monkeys" was what the show made me think of.....
If they had a secure roster, I would watch more. They taped those episodes a couple of months ago. New Jack isn't going to be there long-term as well as several others...it was ok, but they have a long way to go if they want to be taken seriously.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
yes it would have been so much better or just go live for 2 hours. this might sound a little like a pipe dream, but id love for paul heyman to run tna, hed do wonders with the talent of the x division
Paul Heyman with full creative control and a financial backer? It would be the rapture.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
ill say one thing bout wrestling society X, its a hell of lot better then this new ecw or raw
No argument there.............because it's a 30 minute show, it felt rather rushed.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
From http://www.pwinsider.com I'm sorry to report the passing of former ECW World champion Mike Awesome. We don't have much in the way of details yet but Awesome, real name Michael Alfonso, was 42 at the time of his passing.
A Florida native, Awesome was trained by Steve Keirn and was a tremendously agile performer. Standing well over 6 feet, Awesome looked like any other monster performer at first glance, but was well beyond your average muscle-bound bruiser, gifted with tremendous agility. It was noting for Awesome to hit topes and dives like a Cruiserweight before powerbombing his hapless opponents through tables en route to victory.
Like many wrestlers during that era, Awesome broke in making some appearances in Memphis, TN for the USWA and did some independent work in Florida as well as enhancement work. He truly began making his name when he began working as the facepainted Gladiator for Atsushi Onita's Frontier Martial Arts Wrestling in the early 1990s. The forerunner to ECW and the hottest promotion among tape traders at the time, Awesome teamed with Horace Boulder and often working with or against Sabu, Onita, Hisakatsu Ooya, Mr. Pogo and Mr. Gannosuke among others. The styles was physical with crazy bumps, barbed wire, and lots of explosion matches.
While he was well known overseas, at the time Awesome was only known to the most hardcore fans in the United States. He made sporadic appearances in the early days of NWA Eastern Championship Wrestling, including an early 1994 match in ECW where he decimated JT Smith before losing to him at the Night the Line Was Crossed). Within the United States, Awesome was best known for his storied feud with Masato Tanaka, which began in FMW and later moved over to ECW, including a memorable match at the promotion's Heatwave '98 PPV in Dayton, Ohio.
After suffering a knee injury, Awesome sat out for a year following surgery. He didn't return to FMW, instead doing a tour of All Japan Pro Wrestling when he returned. In September 1999, Awesome joined ECW full-time as a surprise, immediately winning a Three-Way Dance to capture the promotion's World championship from Tazz at the Anarchy Rulz '99 PPV in Chicago. The storyline was that Awesome had crashed the match, upset that ECW was using footage of Tanaka defeating him to build up Tanaka as a challenger. Tazz offered him the chance to enter the match, and was pinned within a minute, shocking everyone. Although it was well known Tazz was on his way out of the company, no one could have predicted a one minute loss for ECW's monster badass champion.
Awesome defeated Tanaka as well in the process, so their feud was once again off to the races. During his reign as champion Awesome faced and feuded against Tanaka, Spike Dudley, Kid Kash, and Tommy Dreamer, among others. Managed by Jeff Jones, Awesome also briefly held the ECW World Tag Team championship with Raven as well. Tanaka and Awesome traded the ECW title back with a win for Tanaka in Nashville, TN and Awesome regaining it in White Plains, NY. The ECW on TNN episodes featuring the changes were among the highest rated for the series, falling on Christmas eve and New Year's Eve for that year.
The plan at the time was to build to ECW's top babyface at the time, Rob Van Dam chasing Awesome for the belt. Just after an angle was shot to begin the chase, Van Dam broke his ankle working a house show and would be out for several months. During that timeframe, Awesome (who had claimed publicly to have been under an ECW contract), signed a deal to jump to World Championship Wrestling without dropping the ECW World title belt.
Rightfully fearful of Awesome (who had possession of the title belt) would debut on Monday Nitro and desecrate it, ECW's legal team went into overdrive. Awesome was immediately vilified by those loyal to Extreme Championship Wrestling, although the bottom line was he had a chance to make a great deal of money for his family in one shot and took the chance. ECW did gain an injunction against him appearing and negotiations were made that Awesome would appear, would not have the championship with him (but WCW would name him as champion, then plug a title defense in Indianapolis - which WCW didn't do), and appear in street clothes (to mask his physique and dilute his debut). When Awesome's title change wasn't plugged, the legal battled raged again briefly, before all sides came to a settlement.
In the end, an agreement was made for Awesome to return and drop the title, which he did, losing it to then-WWF star Tazz in Indianapolis, Indiana in the historic first-ever WCW vs. WWF bout (taking place inside an ECW ring no less). ECW refused to allow Awesome into the locker room, so he waited at a nearby hotel, met with Tazz and Tommy Dreamer to go over the bout, then came through the crowd. After Awesome lost the belt, he left again through the crowd.
The match aired in edited form on TNN but if you've never seen the Fancam version and heard the crowd reaction to the Tazz return and title win, you've never truly experienced the moment. In many ways, the departure allowed for a "happy" final appearance in ECW for the Tazz character, who signed with WWE after losing the belt and never truly got a sendoff in the same vein that other ECW stars did.
Once signed by WCW, Awesome was yet another victim of WCW's political turmoil, ever-changing storylines, and poor creative direction during the Vince Russo regime, morphing from a monstrous tablesmashing killer to a comedic undercard character that was lost in the 1970s and traveled in a takeoff of the Patridge Family bus. He was later saddled with a gimmick where he was (seriously) a "Fat Chick Thriller" and was also a member of Team Canada alongside Elix Skipper and Lance Storm. He may have been making the biggest amount of money ever in his career, but artistically, Awesome had never been less of a player for any company and was never booked worse.
When World Wrestling Entertainment bought out WCW in early 2001, Awesome's contract was among the assets purchased. He became the first "WCW" wrestler to compete in the WWF and in Madison Square Garden, attacking WWF Hardcore champion Rhyno backstage and pinning him as part of the storyline where the now defunct championship could be defended anytime, anywhere. When WWF revived ECW as part of the Invasion storyline, Awesome become one of many faces lost in the crowd as a member of the Alliance, was considered to not be a strong performer by WWF veterans who buried him (and many others) politically and was later released in September 2002.
Awesome made several appearances for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling during their weekly PPV event run in Nashville, TN. Awesome also competed for Court Bauer's Major League Wrestling in 2003, winning the MLW championship from Satoshi Kojima, only to lose it several minutes later to Steve Corino. Awesome would make several more appearances for the company, including a not so memorable match against Samoa Joe where the two were obviously not on the same page. He did another brief run for Jersey All Pro Wrestling, tagging with Vader against Samoa Joe and Danny Maff in a main event feud.
Awesome quietly disappeared from the business before being booked for the 2005 Extreme Championship Wrestling One Night Stand PPV in New York City in 2005. The original plan was for Awesome to appear as a surprise alongside Eric Bischoff, playing off the WCW jump in 2000 but creative directions changed and Awesome was announced as facing long-time foe Tanaka. The PPV was among the most emotional and memorable of the year, with Tanaka vs. Awesome tearing apart the Hammerstein Ballroom for what was undoubtedly the best match on the show (and of the entire ECW rebirth to date). Awesome blew out his knee during the bout and to the best of my knowledge, never wrestled again.
On behalf of everyone involved with PWInsider.com, I'd like to express our deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fans of Mike Awesome.
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PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
From http://www.pwinsider.com I'm sorry to report the passing of former ECW World champion Mike Awesome. We don't have much in the way of details yet but Awesome, real name Michael Alfonso, was 42 at the time of his passing.
A Florida native, Awesome was trained by Steve Keirn and was a tremendously agile performer. Standing well over 6 feet, Awesome looked like any other monster performer at first glance, but was well beyond your average muscle-bound bruiser, gifted with tremendous agility. It was noting for Awesome to hit topes and dives like a Cruiserweight before powerbombing his hapless opponents through tables en route to victory.
Like many wrestlers during that era, Awesome broke in making some appearances in Memphis, TN for the USWA and did some independent work in Florida as well as enhancement work. He truly began making his name when he began working as the facepainted Gladiator for Atsushi Onita's Frontier Martial Arts Wrestling in the early 1990s. The forerunner to ECW and the hottest promotion among tape traders at the time, Awesome teamed with Horace Boulder and often working with or against Sabu, Onita, Hisakatsu Ooya, Mr. Pogo and Mr. Gannosuke among others. The styles was physical with crazy bumps, barbed wire, and lots of explosion matches.
While he was well known overseas, at the time Awesome was only known to the most hardcore fans in the United States. He made sporadic appearances in the early days of NWA Eastern Championship Wrestling, including an early 1994 match in ECW where he decimated JT Smith before losing to him at the Night the Line Was Crossed). Within the United States, Awesome was best known for his storied feud with Masato Tanaka, which began in FMW and later moved over to ECW, including a memorable match at the promotion's Heatwave '98 PPV in Dayton, Ohio.
After suffering a knee injury, Awesome sat out for a year following surgery. He didn't return to FMW, instead doing a tour of All Japan Pro Wrestling when he returned. In September 1999, Awesome joined ECW full-time as a surprise, immediately winning a Three-Way Dance to capture the promotion's World championship from Tazz at the Anarchy Rulz '99 PPV in Chicago. The storyline was that Awesome had crashed the match, upset that ECW was using footage of Tanaka defeating him to build up Tanaka as a challenger. Tazz offered him the chance to enter the match, and was pinned within a minute, shocking everyone. Although it was well known Tazz was on his way out of the company, no one could have predicted a one minute loss for ECW's monster badass champion.
Awesome defeated Tanaka as well in the process, so their feud was once again off to the races. During his reign as champion Awesome faced and feuded against Tanaka, Spike Dudley, Kid Kash, and Tommy Dreamer, among others. Managed by Jeff Jones, Awesome also briefly held the ECW World Tag Team championship with Raven as well. Tanaka and Awesome traded the ECW title back with a win for Tanaka in Nashville, TN and Awesome regaining it in White Plains, NY. The ECW on TNN episodes featuring the changes were among the highest rated for the series, falling on Christmas eve and New Year's Eve for that year.
The plan at the time was to build to ECW's top babyface at the time, Rob Van Dam chasing Awesome for the belt. Just after an angle was shot to begin the chase, Van Dam broke his ankle working a house show and would be out for several months. During that timeframe, Awesome (who had claimed publicly to have been under an ECW contract), signed a deal to jump to World Championship Wrestling without dropping the ECW World title belt.
Rightfully fearful of Awesome (who had possession of the title belt) would debut on Monday Nitro and desecrate it, ECW's legal team went into overdrive. Awesome was immediately vilified by those loyal to Extreme Championship Wrestling, although the bottom line was he had a chance to make a great deal of money for his family in one shot and took the chance. ECW did gain an injunction against him appearing and negotiations were made that Awesome would appear, would not have the championship with him (but WCW would name him as champion, then plug a title defense in Indianapolis - which WCW didn't do), and appear in street clothes (to mask his physique and dilute his debut). When Awesome's title change wasn't plugged, the legal battled raged again briefly, before all sides came to a settlement.
In the end, an agreement was made for Awesome to return and drop the title, which he did, losing it to then-WWF star Tazz in Indianapolis, Indiana in the historic first-ever WCW vs. WWF bout (taking place inside an ECW ring no less). ECW refused to allow Awesome into the locker room, so he waited at a nearby hotel, met with Tazz and Tommy Dreamer to go over the bout, then came through the crowd. After Awesome lost the belt, he left again through the crowd.
The match aired in edited form on TNN but if you've never seen the Fancam version and heard the crowd reaction to the Tazz return and title win, you've never truly experienced the moment. In many ways, the departure allowed for a "happy" final appearance in ECW for the Tazz character, who signed with WWE after losing the belt and never truly got a sendoff in the same vein that other ECW stars did.
Once signed by WCW, Awesome was yet another victim of WCW's political turmoil, ever-changing storylines, and poor creative direction during the Vince Russo regime, morphing from a monstrous tablesmashing killer to a comedic undercard character that was lost in the 1970s and traveled in a takeoff of the Patridge Family bus. He was later saddled with a gimmick where he was (seriously) a "Fat Chick Thriller" and was also a member of Team Canada alongside Elix Skipper and Lance Storm. He may have been making the biggest amount of money ever in his career, but artistically, Awesome had never been less of a player for any company and was never booked worse.
When World Wrestling Entertainment bought out WCW in early 2001, Awesome's contract was among the assets purchased. He became the first "WCW" wrestler to compete in the WWF and in Madison Square Garden, attacking WWF Hardcore champion Rhyno backstage and pinning him as part of the storyline where the now defunct championship could be defended anytime, anywhere. When WWF revived ECW as part of the Invasion storyline, Awesome become one of many faces lost in the crowd as a member of the Alliance, was considered to not be a strong performer by WWF veterans who buried him (and many others) politically and was later released in September 2002.
Awesome made several appearances for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling during their weekly PPV event run in Nashville, TN. Awesome also competed for Court Bauer's Major League Wrestling in 2003, winning the MLW championship from Satoshi Kojima, only to lose it several minutes later to Steve Corino. Awesome would make several more appearances for the company, including a not so memorable match against Samoa Joe where the two were obviously not on the same page. He did another brief run for Jersey All Pro Wrestling, tagging with Vader against Samoa Joe and Danny Maff in a main event feud.
Awesome quietly disappeared from the business before being booked for the 2005 Extreme Championship Wrestling One Night Stand PPV in New York City in 2005. The original plan was for Awesome to appear as a surprise alongside Eric Bischoff, playing off the WCW jump in 2000 but creative directions changed and Awesome was announced as facing long-time foe Tanaka. The PPV was among the most emotional and memorable of the year, with Tanaka vs. Awesome tearing apart the Hammerstein Ballroom for what was undoubtedly the best match on the show (and of the entire ECW rebirth to date). Awesome blew out his knee during the bout and to the best of my knowledge, never wrestled again.
On behalf of everyone involved with PWInsider.com, I'd like to express our deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fans of Mike Awesome.
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PBM
I wondered what had happened to him since the Monday Night wars............sad to see another great one gone. R.I.P.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
They're getting the attention they want...but yeah.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
They're getting the attention they want...but yeah.
PBM
..and they will probably get some extra "buys" out of this....but not me.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
..and they will probably get some extra "buys" out of this....but not me.
It's quite sad, but I've stopped watching wrestling altogether. I never thought the day would come, but I haven't watch anything in quite some time.
That's the only thing left for me, as a consumer, to do.
I'm rooting for TNA to be competitve...but as I've said before...until they get a live show...I won't watch on a regular basis. I read the spoilers...and more times than not, there's nothing to watch for.
As for Raw...it's just so bad and unentertaining that it's not worth my time...plus, Prison Break and Heroes are much better.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
It's quite sad, but I've stopped watching wrestling altogether. I never thought the day would come, but I haven't watch anything in quite some time.
That's the only thing left for me, as a consumer, to do.
I'm rooting for TNA to be competitve...but as I've said before...until they get a live show...I won't watch on a regular basis. I read the spoilers...and more times than not, there's nothing to watch for.
As for Raw...it's just so bad and unentertaining that it's not worth my time...plus, Prison Break and Heroes are much better.
PBM
LOL..............I would rather watch "I Love New York" than the hour of "Raw" that is up against............:D
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
It's quite sad, but I've stopped watching wrestling altogether. I never thought the day would come, but I haven't watch anything in quite some time.
That's the only thing left for me, as a consumer, to do.
PBM
I'm very close to that point. I don't watch Smackdown. I Tivo raw and watch it in about 30 minutes, ff'ing thru a lot of crap. ECW? I don't even consider that wrestling.
I'm very close to that point. I don't watch Smackdown. I Tivo raw and watch it in about 30 minutes, ff'ing thru a lot of crap. ECW? I don't even consider that wrestling.
This current ECW is only a developmental league for the WWE......or a place where they can send the cast-offs & second stringers who are under contract, so that they can actually get some use out of them...please, Matt Striker, Test, Snitsky???? What a bunch of bad ideas.....the spirit is gone. I wished that I had taped "ECW on TNN".........I could watch those a thousand times before sitting through a complete RAW show.
All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
I wished that I had taped "ECW on TNN".........I could watch those a thousand times before sitting through a complete RAW show.
My cousin used to send me VHS tapes of ECW from the summer of '97...he would tape them on a local channel that carried the show. I have those around somewhere...I need to revisit those tapes.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Macho Man, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Sid Justice, Legion of Doom, The Natural Disasters, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Ted Debiase, Bret Hart, the bushwhackers, big bossman, the mountie, the nasty boys, sgt slaughter, jake the snake, british bulldog, IRS, razor ramon, diesel, etc...
..and you will come to find that we are all one mind, capable of all that's imagined and all conceivable
I don't even bother taping any of the WWE wrestling shows right now. Occasionally I'll tape TNA Impact if the spoiler sounds promising, but even that show has been turning into 15 minutes of wrestling and 45 minutes of promos/vignettes lately.
I might give Smackdown a chance on the TiVO again, it has been consistently producing better wrestling matches than RAW for the past few months.
It's quite sad, but I've stopped watching wrestling altogether. I never thought the day would come, but I haven't watch anything in quite some time.
That's the only thing left for me, as a consumer, to do.
I'm rooting for TNA to be competitve...but as I've said before...until they get a live show...I won't watch on a regular basis. I read the spoilers...and more times than not, there's nothing to watch for.
As for Raw...it's just so bad and unentertaining that it's not worth my time...plus, Prison Break and Heroes are much better.
PBM
Yea I haven't watched it in a long time. I did last week watch a little bit of RAW or whatever was on. WTF is up with the guy from those Road Rules shows on MTV? He totally sucked in the ring. It used to be so good.
I rented the Bret Hart DVD off of Blockbuster online this week. I sat down to watch it last night and here are my thoughts.
I like Bret Hart...he's a little bland...but he's a great wrestler.
Those early title runs back in the 90's...very boring...there's a reason Vince took the strap off of him...he may have been a great wrestler, but he didn't have the total package (no pun).
Honestly, after watching some off his work (both in matches and on the microphone), he really shined back in late '96 up until his departure in Nov. '97. He had a realism in his interviews that is sorely lacking today.
While Vince & Shawn did screw him over in Montreal, in the end, he's taking himself too seriously. It's all a work. Drop the belt and move on. Although, it's probably the best thing he's ever done for his legacy...because without Montreal, he wouldn't be as popular today. The mystic behind the circumstances and legitimacy of the situation will help keep him relevant for years to come.
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
Interesting stuff goin' on leading up to this year's Wrestlemania...
Hogan won't work Wrestlemania now because he thinks he should be paid equal to the top earners just for one appearance. And no doubt he'd have to go over whoever he faced. Apparently he's still upset that the long-rumoured match with Stone Cold isn't going to happen. Good riddance i say, i can't stand Hogan and he'll just stink up the ring no matter who he's against.
The Vince McMahon/Donald Trump thing just smells bad from the get-go. Although i just found out who the special guest referee is going to be which makes it more interesting. But nobody wants to see Umaga vs Lashley....do they?
HBK vs Cena should be good. If they both go into Detroit playing the face, i'm guessing Cena will get booed out of the building. i'm just praying that Vince doesn't decide to turn HBK heel.
How much of a 'holy shit' moment is this lol! I remember this, when i thought there could be no more shocks in wrestling and then this happens!
So, to sum up my ramblings....i'm not really looking forward to WM this year! Unless by some miracle The Rock turns up, i don't imagine it'll be too great.
What do you guys think?
"This town deserves a better class of criminal... and I'm gonna give it to them."
There are a few things that could help the current product.
1. Use more managers as mouthpieces for wrestlers that can't talk on the microphone.
2. Add more realism into the show...it's too comical and a lot of what the wrestlers do doesn't make sense (i.e. Edge calls someone out and then acts surprised when they come out to confront him).
3. More stables (i.e. Four Horseman / The Cartel / Dangerous Alliance).
4. A stable tag-team division (i.e. stop throwing guys together).
5. There's nothing wrong with high spots. Triple H has injured his Quad twice by doing hardly anything. Let the boys put on a show.
6. Don't push wrestlers down the crowd's throat...if we don't like a guy, bench him...if we do, give him a push (i.e. CM Punk, RVD).
PBM
"We paced ourselves and we didn't rush through it and we tried to be as creative as our collective minds would let us be over some course of time instead of just trying to rush through a record"
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"Spot Monkeys" was what the show made me think of.....
Instead of the six sides of steel featuring Styles/Daniels/LAX, I think TNA should have showed their Ultimate X tag title match from the previous PPV.
Also, if they wanted to showcase Samoa Joe matches, it would have been better to broadcast one or two from late 2005, when Joe was feuding with Styles and Daniels for the X Division title.
And there better be the Canadian Destroyer, dammit.
ill say one thing bout wrestling society X, its a hell of lot better then this new ecw or raw
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
If they had a secure roster, I would watch more. They taped those episodes a couple of months ago. New Jack isn't going to be there long-term as well as several others...it was ok, but they have a long way to go if they want to be taken seriously.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Paul Heyman with full creative control and a financial backer? It would be the rapture.
PBM
Wishlist Foundation: http://wishlistfoundation.org
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
From http://www.pwinsider.com
I'm sorry to report the passing of former ECW World champion Mike Awesome. We don't have much in the way of details yet but Awesome, real name Michael Alfonso, was 42 at the time of his passing.
A Florida native, Awesome was trained by Steve Keirn and was a tremendously agile performer. Standing well over 6 feet, Awesome looked like any other monster performer at first glance, but was well beyond your average muscle-bound bruiser, gifted with tremendous agility. It was noting for Awesome to hit topes and dives like a Cruiserweight before powerbombing his hapless opponents through tables en route to victory.
Like many wrestlers during that era, Awesome broke in making some appearances in Memphis, TN for the USWA and did some independent work in Florida as well as enhancement work. He truly began making his name when he began working as the facepainted Gladiator for Atsushi Onita's Frontier Martial Arts Wrestling in the early 1990s. The forerunner to ECW and the hottest promotion among tape traders at the time, Awesome teamed with Horace Boulder and often working with or against Sabu, Onita, Hisakatsu Ooya, Mr. Pogo and Mr. Gannosuke among others. The styles was physical with crazy bumps, barbed wire, and lots of explosion matches.
While he was well known overseas, at the time Awesome was only known to the most hardcore fans in the United States. He made sporadic appearances in the early days of NWA Eastern Championship Wrestling, including an early 1994 match in ECW where he decimated JT Smith before losing to him at the Night the Line Was Crossed). Within the United States, Awesome was best known for his storied feud with Masato Tanaka, which began in FMW and later moved over to ECW, including a memorable match at the promotion's Heatwave '98 PPV in Dayton, Ohio.
After suffering a knee injury, Awesome sat out for a year following surgery. He didn't return to FMW, instead doing a tour of All Japan Pro Wrestling when he returned. In September 1999, Awesome joined ECW full-time as a surprise, immediately winning a Three-Way Dance to capture the promotion's World championship from Tazz at the Anarchy Rulz '99 PPV in Chicago. The storyline was that Awesome had crashed the match, upset that ECW was using footage of Tanaka defeating him to build up Tanaka as a challenger. Tazz offered him the chance to enter the match, and was pinned within a minute, shocking everyone. Although it was well known Tazz was on his way out of the company, no one could have predicted a one minute loss for ECW's monster badass champion.
Awesome defeated Tanaka as well in the process, so their feud was once again off to the races. During his reign as champion Awesome faced and feuded against Tanaka, Spike Dudley, Kid Kash, and Tommy Dreamer, among others. Managed by Jeff Jones, Awesome also briefly held the ECW World Tag Team championship with Raven as well. Tanaka and Awesome traded the ECW title back with a win for Tanaka in Nashville, TN and Awesome regaining it in White Plains, NY. The ECW on TNN episodes featuring the changes were among the highest rated for the series, falling on Christmas eve and New Year's Eve for that year.
The plan at the time was to build to ECW's top babyface at the time, Rob Van Dam chasing Awesome for the belt. Just after an angle was shot to begin the chase, Van Dam broke his ankle working a house show and would be out for several months. During that timeframe, Awesome (who had claimed publicly to have been under an ECW contract), signed a deal to jump to World Championship Wrestling without dropping the ECW World title belt.
Rightfully fearful of Awesome (who had possession of the title belt) would debut on Monday Nitro and desecrate it, ECW's legal team went into overdrive. Awesome was immediately vilified by those loyal to Extreme Championship Wrestling, although the bottom line was he had a chance to make a great deal of money for his family in one shot and took the chance. ECW did gain an injunction against him appearing and negotiations were made that Awesome would appear, would not have the championship with him (but WCW would name him as champion, then plug a title defense in Indianapolis - which WCW didn't do), and appear in street clothes (to mask his physique and dilute his debut). When Awesome's title change wasn't plugged, the legal battled raged again briefly, before all sides came to a settlement.
In the end, an agreement was made for Awesome to return and drop the title, which he did, losing it to then-WWF star Tazz in Indianapolis, Indiana in the historic first-ever WCW vs. WWF bout (taking place inside an ECW ring no less). ECW refused to allow Awesome into the locker room, so he waited at a nearby hotel, met with Tazz and Tommy Dreamer to go over the bout, then came through the crowd. After Awesome lost the belt, he left again through the crowd.
The match aired in edited form on TNN but if you've never seen the Fancam version and heard the crowd reaction to the Tazz return and title win, you've never truly experienced the moment. In many ways, the departure allowed for a "happy" final appearance in ECW for the Tazz character, who signed with WWE after losing the belt and never truly got a sendoff in the same vein that other ECW stars did.
Once signed by WCW, Awesome was yet another victim of WCW's political turmoil, ever-changing storylines, and poor creative direction during the Vince Russo regime, morphing from a monstrous tablesmashing killer to a comedic undercard character that was lost in the 1970s and traveled in a takeoff of the Patridge Family bus. He was later saddled with a gimmick where he was (seriously) a "Fat Chick Thriller" and was also a member of Team Canada alongside Elix Skipper and Lance Storm. He may have been making the biggest amount of money ever in his career, but artistically, Awesome had never been less of a player for any company and was never booked worse.
When World Wrestling Entertainment bought out WCW in early 2001, Awesome's contract was among the assets purchased. He became the first "WCW" wrestler to compete in the WWF and in Madison Square Garden, attacking WWF Hardcore champion Rhyno backstage and pinning him as part of the storyline where the now defunct championship could be defended anytime, anywhere. When WWF revived ECW as part of the Invasion storyline, Awesome become one of many faces lost in the crowd as a member of the Alliance, was considered to not be a strong performer by WWF veterans who buried him (and many others) politically and was later released in September 2002.
Awesome made several appearances for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling during their weekly PPV event run in Nashville, TN. Awesome also competed for Court Bauer's Major League Wrestling in 2003, winning the MLW championship from Satoshi Kojima, only to lose it several minutes later to Steve Corino. Awesome would make several more appearances for the company, including a not so memorable match against Samoa Joe where the two were obviously not on the same page. He did another brief run for Jersey All Pro Wrestling, tagging with Vader against Samoa Joe and Danny Maff in a main event feud.
Awesome quietly disappeared from the business before being booked for the 2005 Extreme Championship Wrestling One Night Stand PPV in New York City in 2005. The original plan was for Awesome to appear as a surprise alongside Eric Bischoff, playing off the WCW jump in 2000 but creative directions changed and Awesome was announced as facing long-time foe Tanaka. The PPV was among the most emotional and memorable of the year, with Tanaka vs. Awesome tearing apart the Hammerstein Ballroom for what was undoubtedly the best match on the show (and of the entire ECW rebirth to date). Awesome blew out his knee during the bout and to the best of my knowledge, never wrestled again.
On behalf of everyone involved with PWInsider.com, I'd like to express our deepest condolences to the family, friends, and fans of Mike Awesome.
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the crusher
pretty boy bobby heenan
and midgets........
does it get any better????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJQDyvA9RnI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJQDyvA9RnI
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
R.I.P. mike awesome
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070220/ap_on_en_tv/people_trump
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everyone's gonna pay...
cause the million dollar man...
ALWAYS GET HIS WAY!!
money, money, money, money, moneeeyyyyyyyyyyy
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Agreed.
They're getting the attention they want...but yeah.
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It's quite sad, but I've stopped watching wrestling altogether. I never thought the day would come, but I haven't watch anything in quite some time.
That's the only thing left for me, as a consumer, to do.
I'm rooting for TNA to be competitve...but as I've said before...until they get a live show...I won't watch on a regular basis. I read the spoilers...and more times than not, there's nothing to watch for.
As for Raw...it's just so bad and unentertaining that it's not worth my time...plus, Prison Break and Heroes are much better.
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I'm very close to that point. I don't watch Smackdown. I Tivo raw and watch it in about 30 minutes, ff'ing thru a lot of crap. ECW? I don't even consider that wrestling.
I used to do that as well...but now, I don't even do that. I found myself pushing the fast forward button and never pressing "play". :(
My cousin used to send me VHS tapes of ECW from the summer of '97...he would tape them on a local channel that carried the show. I have those around somewhere...I need to revisit those tapes.
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Macho Man, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Sid Justice, Legion of Doom, The Natural Disasters, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Ted Debiase, Bret Hart, the bushwhackers, big bossman, the mountie, the nasty boys, sgt slaughter, jake the snake, british bulldog, IRS, razor ramon, diesel, etc...
I might give Smackdown a chance on the TiVO again, it has been consistently producing better wrestling matches than RAW for the past few months.
Yea I haven't watched it in a long time. I did last week watch a little bit of RAW or whatever was on. WTF is up with the guy from those Road Rules shows on MTV? He totally sucked in the ring. It used to be so good.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCvvu3rIS_E
check out his other "shoots" looooool
Reading 2006 - WOOOOW!!!!!
Paris 2006 - Fucking amazing
Wembley 2007
I like Bret Hart...he's a little bland...but he's a great wrestler.
Those early title runs back in the 90's...very boring...there's a reason Vince took the strap off of him...he may have been a great wrestler, but he didn't have the total package (no pun).
Honestly, after watching some off his work (both in matches and on the microphone), he really shined back in late '96 up until his departure in Nov. '97. He had a realism in his interviews that is sorely lacking today.
While Vince & Shawn did screw him over in Montreal, in the end, he's taking himself too seriously. It's all a work. Drop the belt and move on. Although, it's probably the best thing he's ever done for his legacy...because without Montreal, he wouldn't be as popular today. The mystic behind the circumstances and legitimacy of the situation will help keep him relevant for years to come.
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Hogan won't work Wrestlemania now because he thinks he should be paid equal to the top earners just for one appearance. And no doubt he'd have to go over whoever he faced. Apparently he's still upset that the long-rumoured match with Stone Cold isn't going to happen. Good riddance i say, i can't stand Hogan and he'll just stink up the ring no matter who he's against.
The Vince McMahon/Donald Trump thing just smells bad from the get-go. Although i just found out who the special guest referee is going to be which makes it more interesting. But nobody wants to see Umaga vs Lashley....do they?
HBK vs Cena should be good. If they both go into Detroit playing the face, i'm guessing Cena will get booed out of the building. i'm just praying that Vince doesn't decide to turn HBK heel.
EDIT- http://www.dailymotion.com/visited/search/wwe%2Bstone%2Bcold/video/xr0bk_bischoff-arrives
How much of a 'holy shit' moment is this lol! I remember this, when i thought there could be no more shocks in wrestling and then this happens!
So, to sum up my ramblings....i'm not really looking forward to WM this year! Unless by some miracle The Rock turns up, i don't imagine it'll be too great.
What do you guys think?
There are a few things that could help the current product.
1. Use more managers as mouthpieces for wrestlers that can't talk on the microphone.
2. Add more realism into the show...it's too comical and a lot of what the wrestlers do doesn't make sense (i.e. Edge calls someone out and then acts surprised when they come out to confront him).
3. More stables (i.e. Four Horseman / The Cartel / Dangerous Alliance).
4. A stable tag-team division (i.e. stop throwing guys together).
5. There's nothing wrong with high spots. Triple H has injured his Quad twice by doing hardly anything. Let the boys put on a show.
6. Don't push wrestlers down the crowd's throat...if we don't like a guy, bench him...if we do, give him a push (i.e. CM Punk, RVD).
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