UFC 84: Sean Sherk Vs. BJ Penn / Tito Ortiz Vs. Lyoto Machida / Silva Vs. Jardine

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  • cb had an impresive performance tonight. he looked good, or so "a voice" kept telling me as i was watching the episode. :D nick probably would have caught a lesser opponent with some of those submission attempts, but cb is slick and looks like he's going to be tough to beat, as long as he doesn't get overly confident.

    funny episode tonight too! :D
  • leafs4ever
    leafs4ever Posts: 833
    Man, that sudo guy has some crazy entrances, it's really a show over there.
    your pics for 84 look alot like mine, except for 1 fight :) still might make some changes before saturday, i don't know.
    It says that The Ultimate Fighter Finale will be in HD... when did spike get an HD channel?

    oh and also just read this on mmanews... Looks like Rashad has been pulled from ufc 85 completely now.


    After countless opponent changes, Rashad Evans has been removed from UFC 85. The announcement was made earlier today by the UFC.

    Evans was first scheduled to face Chuck Liddell but after a hamstring injury forced him out, James Irvin stepped up to face the undefeated light heavyweight. Irvin was injured earlier in the week and Luis Cane switched opponents to fight Evans.

    With Evans being removed from the card, Cane now will fight Jason Lambert who he was first paired up with to fight on the prelims of the card.

    http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Rashad-Evans-Removed-From-UFC-85:-Bedlam-In-London.html
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    Man, that sudo guy has some crazy entrances, it's really a show over there.
    your pics for 84 look alot like mine, except for 1 fight :) still might make some changes before saturday, i don't know.
    It says that The Ultimate Fighter Finale will be in HD... when did spike get an HD channel?

    oh and also just read this on mmanews... Looks like Rashad has been pulled from ufc 85 completely now.


    After countless opponent changes, Rashad Evans has been removed from UFC 85. The announcement was made earlier today by the UFC.

    Evans was first scheduled to face Chuck Liddell but after a hamstring injury forced him out, James Irvin stepped up to face the undefeated light heavyweight. Irvin was injured earlier in the week and Luis Cane switched opponents to fight Evans.

    With Evans being removed from the card, Cane now will fight Jason Lambert who he was first paired up with to fight on the prelims of the card.

    http://www.mmanews.com/ufc/Rashad-Evans-Removed-From-UFC-85:-Bedlam-In-London.html

    hmmm...i wonder which match? :D good luck on the picks!

    that UFC 85 : "Bedlam" card is looking more like UFC 85 : CURSED! man, there have been a lot of changes in opponents and matches. so i made the changes again in the rumours! thanks, leafs.

    personally, i don't know about the HD thing. i just have a regular spike channel on an old tv. :)

    p.s. sudo! :D
  • I am so pumped for this weekend, I feel like Im gonna be in a fight.

    I had to post one more Tito piece from sherdog. enjoy!!

    http://www.sherdogvideos.com/misc/ing_ortiz_ufc84.wmv
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    personally, i don't know about the HD thing. i just have a regular spike channel on an old tv. :)

    p.s. sudo! :D

    your tv's cool because everyone looks like they're on fire... ;):p
    ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
  • your tv's cool because everyone looks like they're on fire... ;):p

    :D haha. it's true. i know it's going to blow up one of these times when i turn it on...it's only a matter of time! :D
  • I am so pumped for this weekend, I feel like Im gonna be in a fight.

    I had to post one more Tito piece from sherdog. enjoy!!

    http://www.sherdogvideos.com/misc/ing_ortiz_ufc84.wmv

    yeah, i could see how you could get pumped up watching that. :D thanks for posting this, lbc.

    such a contrast in personalities and styles...we'll see who wins out on saturday! i can't wait!

    ...also interested to hear what tito has to say after the match now! :)
  • looks like the EliteXC show for next weekend is complete...

    EliteXC, May 31, 2008 - Prudential Center, Newark, New Jersey - CBS

    Main Card:

    Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson Vs. James Thompson
    Robbie Lawler Vs. Scott Smith - EliteXC MW Championship
    Gina Carano Vs. Kaitlin Young
    Phil Baroni Vs. Joey Villasenor (Murilo Rua out due to injury)
    Brett Rogers Vs. John Murphy

    Pre-lims:

    Nick Serra Vs. Matt Makowski
    Wilson Reis Vs. Justin Robbins
    Zach Makovsky Vs. Andre Soares
    Mike Groves Vs. Joe Sampieri
    Chris Liguori Vs. Jim Bova
    James Jones Vs. Calvin Kattar
    Carlton Haselrig Vs. Carlos Moreno

    the undercard will stream live on proelite.com, and the main card will be the first installment of "saturday night fights" on CBS.

    not that i ever share my thoughts on the matches or anything...:D...but...

    i'm hoping people don't tune out after rogers vs. murphy. it should be the standard ugly HW slugfest. can't say i'm looking forward to it at all. at least there's a good chance it will end quickly (fingers crossed).

    baroni vs. villasenor is an interesting match and quite possibly the one where we'll see the most action on the ground. i wish ninja was still fighting baroni, but villasenor is a game opponent with lots of experience and a great coach in greg jackson. i'd expect them to let baroni tire himself out in the first and then gradully wear him down in the second, possibly finishing him in the late second or third...or winning a decision. baroni's best chance is to overwhelm villasenor with strikes in the first, but i can't see villasenor playing into that game. baroni always tires in his fights, so villasenor should be able to take advantage if he plays it safe in the beginning.

    carano vs. young will rival smith vs. lawler for fight of the night. two muay thai fighters, both with ground games that need some work. i'd say gina's takedown defense is good enough to keep kaitlin from taking her down if that's what kaitlin plans to do, and her muay thai is heads and shoulders above young, who has a more rigid style of muay thai and not the best defense. she's new to the sport and blew through her first four opponents, only to have her weakness on the ground exposed in her last fight where she dominated the stand up only to fall victim to an armbar in the second. it's also going to be a huge test of her nerves being so young, green, and being on national tv. gina's been there and done it. gina is fluid, and her hands, elbows and leg kicks are the best in women's mma, in my opinion. i can see gina winning this one in the second with a ko or tko. should be an outstanding match, as young is a promising newcomer. i just think see's going to get overwhelmed by the moment and by the better striker. gina's probabaly the most technically adept striker on the card.

    smith vs. lawler has fireworks written all over it. both guys love to stand and trade punches. i think they'll do it until one of them goes down, and in my opinion it's lawler who falls first in this one. who needs a second round, eh?! :D

    kimbo should have a relatively easy ko in his match against thompson. thompson has been ko'd many times now and by lesser strikers. maybe thompson will try to take the fight to the ground like he did in his last match, but even if he does, i'm not sure how much of an advantage he will have there. it's not exactly his strong suit, and kimbo is said to have a solid ground game. we just haven't seen it yet...and i don't expect to see it here. likely another slugfest , with kimbo getting the better of it with more accurate striking, power, and movement.

    i'm expecting a lot of stand up in these matches and not a lot of grappling, which is really too bad, for a network tv debut, but it should still be an exciting show, in any case. it would just be nice if it turns out to be a better representation of overall MMA than it looks like on paper.

    was that two or three cents? ;):D ...maybe a nickel...haha
  • with all the genki sudo love ;), i decided to look around for a documentary that i've been looking for about him. i'd only seen clips before and it was all in japanese, but i finally found the version with english subtitles. mookie happy. :)

    i should get off this mma addiction someday and start downloading pj concerts i think! :D
  • ok, one more youtube video and i swear i will lay off the video posts! :D

    this is the match that had the highlight featured in the tribute video. it's the one where he
    seriously pick that dude up, swing him around by his feet, and set him down directly into a leg lock??? :eek:


    turns out it was from a match in pancrase, vs. craig oxley...only about 3 mins. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoFe-ZORiTU
  • ReleasH
    ReleasH Posts: 743
    So many pages in the thread for me to get caught up on!! I've got the TUF episode on my tivo, but there's slim to no chance I will be able to watch it until Saturday morning. My UFC 84 picks probably won't be in until then either. Apparently I had forgotten how much it sucks to get up at 4 am ... well at least the first week does. :(

    p.s. Mookie, check your PMs.
  • ReleasH wrote:
    So many pages in the thread for me to get caught up on!! I've got the TUF episode on my tivo, but there's slim to no chance I will be able to watch it until Saturday morning. My UFC 84 picks probably won't be in until then either. Apparently I had forgotten how much it sucks to get up at 4 am ... well at least the first week does. :(

    p.s. Mookie, check your PMs.

    done and done, my friend! :)

    sorry to hear about the hectic schedule and getting up at 4 a.m.!!!! yuck!

    good luck on the picks, of course. ;)

    oh yeah, most of the pages are just me blabbering, so not too much missed. i would check out those genki sudo entrances if you get a chance, though. ceg and leafs liked them. :)

    hope saturday is here soon for all of us!
  • :eek:

    UFC 87, August 9, 2008 - Target Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota - PPV

    Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch - WW Championship
    Brock Lesnar Vs. TBA
    Roger Huerta Vs. Kenny Florian
    Demian Maia Vs. Jason MacDonald
    Cheick Kongo Vs. Dan Evenson
    Frankie Edgar Vs. TBA
    George Sotiropoulos Vs. TBA



    COLEMAN OUT, GSP VS. FITCH TO HEADLINE UFC 87
    Thursday, May 22, 2008
    by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com


    The injury bug continues to plague the Ultimate Fighting Championship. The promotion on Thursday, just two days prior to its marquee bout between B.J. Penn and Sean Sherk at UFC 84, announced that Mark Coleman has a knee injury that forces him out of the main event of UFC 87 on Aug. 9. He was scheduled to face Brock Lesnar.

    The UFC acted quickly signing a title bout between current welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre and No. 1 contender Jon Fitch. That fight will now headline UFC 87 at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minn.

    “He’s a very, very tough guy,” said St. Pierre of Fitch on UFC.com. “I’m gonna have to train hard and be very well prepared because he may be my toughest fight yet.”

    “The whole goal is to get the belt and be in the position where guys can’t duck me, run away, or say they don’t want to fight me,” said Fitch, also on the promotion’s web site. “If I have the belt, there’s no excuse, and if you say you’re the best, then we’re gonna fight. This is gonna be a tough fight, but I’m gonna make sure I’m sharp that night, and wherever the fight needs to go, that’s fine with me.”

    Another feature bout of UFC 87 is a battle between lightweight contenders Kenny Florian and Roger Huerta, which UFC president Dana White inferred is a de facto elimination bout for a title shot against the winner of this Saturday’s bout between Penn and Sherk.

    “I think the winner (between Penn and Sherk)... there's another fight between Roger Huerta and Kenny Florian, I think the winner of that fight will fight the winner of this fight,” stated White.

    In announcing Coleman’s withdrawal from the bout, the UFC confirmed that Brock Lesnar is still expected to fight at UFC 87 and that a new opponent is yet to be determined.

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6330&zoneid=13
  • ok, one more youtube video and i swear i will lay off the video posts! :D

    this is the match that had the highlight featured in the tribute video. it's the one where he




    turns out it was from a match in pancrase, vs. craig oxley...only about 3 mins. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoFe-ZORiTU[/quote

    That vid was too funny Mook. I love how excited the announcers get. LOL!!
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    :eek:

    UFC 87, August 9, 2008 - Target Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota - PPV

    Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch - WW Championship
    Brock Lesnar Vs. TBA
    Roger Huerta Vs. Kenny Florian
    Demian Maia Vs. Jason MacDonald
    Cheick Kongo Vs. Dan Evenson
    Luke Cummo Vs. Tamdan McCrory
    Alessio Sakara Vs. TBA
    George Sotiropoulos Vs. TBA

    i see your :eek: and raise you an :eek:
    ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
  • civ_eng_girl
    civ_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    turns out it was from a match in pancrase, vs. craig oxley...only about 3 mins. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoFe-ZORiTU

    ha! that freeze-frame at the end is priceless! :D
    ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
  • leafs4ever
    leafs4ever Posts: 833
    I am so pumped for this weekend, I feel like Im gonna be in a fight.

    I had to post one more Tito piece from sherdog. enjoy!!

    http://www.sherdogvideos.com/misc/ing_ortiz_ufc84.wmv

    thanks for the vid... Tito looks prepared and focused for this fight. the man really knows how to sell a fight
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4ever
    leafs4ever Posts: 833

    ...also interested to hear what tito has to say after the match now! :)

    do you think dana will let him have mic time if he loses? even if he wins?
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    do you think dana will let him have mic time if he loses? even if he wins?

    tito will bring his own! :D
  • ok, one more youtube video and i swear i will lay off the video posts! :D

    this is the match that had the highlight featured in the tribute video. it's the one where he




    turns out it was from a match in pancrase, vs. craig oxley...only about 3 mins. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoFe-ZORiTU[/quote

    That vid was too funny Mook. I love how excited the announcers get. LOL!!

    it's more fun to listen to the japanese or korean commentary sometimes. i don't know what they're saying other than the odd "armbar" or "choke" but they certainly seem excited about the action!