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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    http://blogs.nypost.com/sports/st/archives/2007/11/twins_trade_hur.html

    Lets just go strong after Haren. Come on Omar, just freaking do it.
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  • If that deal comes to fruition, what a steal for Minnesota
  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,552
    Twins pitcher Matt Garza traded to Rays for Delmon Young. Four other players involved:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/28/rays.twins.trade.ap/index.html

    Guess this means Omar has very little shot of landing Garza, who I hoped might be of some help to the Mets on the back end of the rotation.

    Let the Yanks/Sox overpay for Santana. Glad Jon Garland is off the market, too.

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  • Great deal for the Twins, too bad they're looking to dump the rest of the team. Now Nathan is headed for the trading block
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Great deal for the Twins

    Definitely.

    I get the feeling this isn't gonna be a great season for the Mets... What we really need is some nice arms in the farm system THAT WE DON'T TRADE. Maybe we can pick something up as compensation from Glavine leaving.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    No big play made yet, but this is still a little bit of a relief to hear:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Agfv2ld90gWceH7l7UoOE_MRvLYF?slug=ap-mets-reyes&prov=ap&type=lgns
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  • yosi wrote:
    Definitely.

    I get the feeling this isn't gonna be a great season for the Mets... What we really need is some nice arms in the farm system THAT WE DON'T TRADE. Maybe we can pick something up as compensation from Glavine leaving.

    good point. Is Glavine considered a Type A free agent, the type that nets 2 draft picks from the Braves? if so, the Mets should kick in $6 million of his deal
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    good point. Is Glavine considered a Type A free agent, the type that nets 2 draft picks from the Braves? if so, the Mets should kick in $6 million of his deal

    He is a type A free agent (or was while he was a free agent). If the Mets don't offer arbitration, and don't get those draft picks, I'll kill Omar.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,320
    apparently the mets traded lastings milledge to washington for brian schneider and ryan church, so says mike and the mad dog.
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  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,552
    apparently the mets traded lastings milledge to washington for brian schneider and ryan church, so says mike and the mad dog.

    CNNSI reports the same thing -- http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/11/30/milledge.trade/index.html

    The New York Mets have solved their catcher issue, acquiring the Nationals' Brian Schneider as well as outfielder Ryan Church in exchange for young outfielder Lastings Milledge, SI.com has confirmed.

    Milledge played in 59 games for the Mets last season, batting .272 with seven home runs and 29 RBIs. The 22-year-old was considered a top prospect while coming up through the Mets' system but the team is down on the very talented slugger.

    Schneider is the defensive catcher the Mets wanted to take over for free agent Paul Lo Duca. The Mets traded reliever Guillermo Mota for Brewers catcher Johnny Estrada earlier this offseason, but they will shop him around and possibly non-tender him since he is arbitration eligible. The Mets also signed backup catcher Ramon Castro to a two-year deal.

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  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,552
    I always thought Milledge would be the trade-bait for pitching. Oh well.

    This seems to show that the Mets organization is more excited about Gomez and F-Mart after all.

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  • AstroFanAstroFan Posts: 193
    Omar Minaya has done something remarkable with this trade...



    ...he made Jim Bowden look good.
  • omar will be on with mike and the dog after the 4:20 break. i'm sure he will find a way to double talk this deal. to play a drinking game if you at home, chug everytime omar says "you know what i'm sayin'"
    I don't want to be hostile. I don't want to be dismal. But I don't want to rot in an apathetic existance either.
  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,552
    The more I think about this deal, the more I am irate over it.

    Why trade one of your only trading chips if it doesn't really make you better?

    Church is the same OF as Milledge, except he's older, more expensive, and already reached his peak. Bad one, Omar!

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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    rhinomagic wrote:
    I always thought Milledge would be the trade-bait for pitching. Oh well.

    This seems to show that the Mets organization is more excited about Gomez and F-Mart after all.

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    Me too. And what's worse, if we do trade those guys for pitching (and I'm not saying we shouldn't) our entire farm system will be completely depleted.
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    Omar Minaya has done something remarkable with this trade...



    ...he made Jim Bowden look good.

    Sad but true.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    rhinomagic wrote:
    The more I think about this deal, the more I am irate over it.

    Why trade one of your only trading chips if it doesn't really make you better?

    Church is the same OF as Milledge, except he's older, more expensive, and already reached his peak. Bad one, Omar!

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    I keep asking myself exactly the same thing.
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  • This trade makes no sense to me. I'm not high on Milledge by any means, but they traded him for a 4th or 5th OF type and your run of the mill, no stick catcher. That and they traded away a kid for 2 guys at or near 30. I also am stunned that Omar made a trade for 2 white guys......
  • AstroFanAstroFan Posts: 193
    rhinomagic wrote:
    The more I think about this deal, the more I am irate over it.

    Why trade one of your only trading chips if it doesn't really make you better?

    Church is the same OF as Milledge, except he's older, more expensive, and already reached his peak. Bad one, Omar!

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    The catcher you got isn't much of an upgrade from the one you had last year, either. Upgrade on defense, but Lo Duca has been better offensively each of the last 2 seasons. Considering the price they paid, it's a bit embarassing.
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    This trade makes no sense to me. I'm not high on Milledge by any means, but they traded him for a 4th or 5th OF type and your run of the mill, no stick catcher. That and they traded away a kid for 2 guys at or near 30. I also am stunned that Omar made a trade for 2 white guys......

    Maybe he did so to show that it's a bad idea to trade for white players in the future ;)..
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  • blah blah defense blah blah speed blah blah up the middle. so far, still no help in the pen, other than addition by subtraction with mota.

    lo duca is not back because of his mouth (the other guys here speak english) and milledge was a chemistry issue ... just would have hoped they got something more for him.
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    So Omar just said that he expects Church to be an everyday starter....uh oh..
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  • blah blah defense blah blah speed blah blah up the middle. so far, still no help in the pen, other than addition by subtraction with mota.

    lo duca is not back because of his mouth (the other guys here speak english) and milledge was a chemistry issue ... just would have hoped they got something more for him.

    Supposedly Minnesota plans on putting Nathan on the market if/when Johan is dealt. Now obviously he'll cost a ton (deservedly so) and I'm not sure how Wagner will deal with getting bumped to the 8th inning/ occasional closer (probably not well) but a Wagner/Nathan 8th inning/9th inning combo would be one of, if not thee, best in baseball. I highly doubt it would ever happen. I wonder if the Mets would consider trading Reyes if he was the headliner of a package that brought back Johan and Nathan?
  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,552
    Supposedly Minnesota plans on putting Nathan on the market if/when Johan is dealt. Now obviously he'll cost a ton (deservedly so) and I'm not sure how Wagner will deal with getting bumped to the 8th inning/ occasional closer (probably not well) but a Wagner/Nathan 8th inning/9th inning combo would be one of, if not thee, best in baseball. I highly doubt it would ever happen. I wonder if the Mets would consider trading Reyes if he was the headliner of a package that brought back Johan and Nathan?

    I'd have to think long and hard about a Reyes for Santana/Nathan package, depending on the prospects involved.

    It would be hard to pull the trigger, but I believe any GM would need to give that serious consideration.

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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    rhinomagic wrote:
    I'd have to think long and hard about a Reyes for Santana/Nathan package, depending on the prospects involved.

    It would be hard to pull the trigger, but I believe any GM would need to give that serious consideration.

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    In my opinion, you pretty much just don't trade Reyes or Wright. I'm not saying they're the best players in the league, and I'm not trying to overhype them. But, they are the core of this team, they are home grown, they are young. You build around them. Plain and simple.
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  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Are the Mets the favorites to land these guys, Tim Brown of Yahoo! Sports thinks so:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AgA4sqzTCqgk1DyzFnlgjIURvLYF?slug=ti-trades112807&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

    Personally, I'd prefer Haren, but would be ok signing either Blanton or Willis as long as the asking price isn't too high.
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  • probably not true, considering the source, but funny nonetheless:

    http://www.pagesix.com/story/mets+pitcher+drag

    We’ve heard of baseball players trying to get into ladies’ pants but trying to get into their dresses? That’s a new one. At the opening of Touch nightclub on Thursday, Mets' pitcher John Maine approached a twentysomething clubgoer and offered her several hundred dollars to try on her dress.

    “It was really weird,” she told PageSix.com. “At first I didn’t believe him when he said he’s a pitcher for the Mets.”





    The 26-year-old is one of the top 10 starting pitchers in the National League, earning him the nickname “The Maine Man.” In September’s 13-0 shutout against the Florida Marlins, Maine pitched over seven hitless and scoreless innings, striking out 14 batters, more than any Mets starter in the past eight years.

    The Virginia-born ball-hurler later approached PageSix.com and asked to test-drive our frock as well. “I’m John Maine. I pitch for the Mets! I’m a hot piece of ass!” he kept repeating. He claimed that he was on his way to a drag party later that night.

    “Come on, I’ll give you $200 to try on your dress,” he begged. “Just to take a picture. It’ll be fun.”

    Your Sixer respectfully declined.
  • rhinomagicrhinomagic Charlottesville, VA Posts: 2,552
    Dontrelle to the Tigers:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/04/cabrera.willis/index.html?eref=T1

    Does this mean Omar is fully focused on Bedard or a pitcher from Oakland now?

    Also, glad that D-Train and Cabrera won't be in the NL East anymore.

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  • Jon Heyman of SI says the Mets are now entering the Johan talks, what with the Yanks bowing out, and the So coming to a standstill (perhaps they were just bluffing to force the Yanks to give up more) . Mets can't match what the other two teams offered, but are hoping to overwhelm with quantity.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/05/santana.update/index.html
  • yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Jon Heyman of SI says the Mets are now entering the Johan talks, what with the Yanks bowing out, and the So coming to a standstill (perhaps they were just bluffing to force the Yanks to give up more) . Mets can't match what the other two teams offered, but are hoping to overwhelm with quantity.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/12/05/santana.update/index.html

    I'd give up Fmart, Mulvey, Pelfrey, and Humber for Santana. Don't know if that's enough. I'd also throw in Church instead, or even with one of the other guys. The only prospect I really want to hang on to is Gomez. I think the kid is gonna be awesome.
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  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    yosi wrote:
    I'd give up Fmart, Mulvey, Pelfrey, and Humber for Santana. Don't know if that's enough. I'd also throw in Church instead, or even with one of the other guys. The only prospect I really want to hang on to is Gomez. I think the kid is gonna be awesome.

    I'd also throw Gomez at them fuckers no problem for Santana....Unfortunately, I don't think the deal will happen..
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    and I'll overdo it'
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