All this talk is giving me a semi. Can't you guys just say there's no fucking chance of this happening so I don't get a hard-on?
There's no fucking chance of this happening. According to CapGeek, the Flyers have $8,281,905 in cap space right now, and the Lightning have $21,836,417. The Lightning will match any offer.
True but you forget to mention that Tampa lost $20-25 million last year. There is no way in hell they are spending up to the cap. They also have about 4 or 5 players to sign (or add to roster) to be able to field a team.
The Flyers have a shot for the sheer fact that they have some flexibility. I'm not saying its going to happen but its a possibility give the Flyers cap and draft situation.
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It's kind of strange how a couple of Red Wings fans are obsessed with coming in here to put down the Flyers. I mean, with all their success, Wings fans should treat the Flyers like the United States treats Costa Rica. i.e., completely ignore it :?
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It's kind of strange how a couple of Red Wings fans are obsessed with coming in here to put down the Flyers. I mean, with all their success, Wings fans should treat the Flyers like the United States treats Costa Rica. i.e., completely ignore it :?
I can't quote posts on my phone, but I'd say the exact same thing to Rangers fans, Wings fans, or anyone who thought they could get Stamkos with $8 million in cap room and other players who still need to be signed.
Would take a helluva effort to get everything done
Then if TB takes the full 7 days they could lose out on other free agents
free agent class this year is weak and overpriced ... can't believe caps gave laich the deal he got ...
Agreed, I think it has a lot to do with the minimum cap number being so high and teams "struggling" to reach it. Also part of the reason I think the Flyers have the scratch to offer Stamkos some money. Teams like Florida and Colorado are going to have to eat some higher priced salaries to make the minimum.
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Would take a helluva effort to get everything done
Then if TB takes the full 7 days they could lose out on other free agents
free agent class this year is weak and overpriced ... can't believe caps gave laich the deal he got ...
Agreed, I think it has a lot to do with the minimum cap number being so high and teams "struggling" to reach it. Also part of the reason I think the Flyers have the scratch to offer Stamkos some money. Teams like Florida and Colorado are going to have to eat some higher priced salaries to make the minimum.
Yeah...I think the bottom floor is $42 million ?
Ive heard Ryder,Madden and Cole on the Flyers radar...not exactly studs
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free agent class this year is weak and overpriced ... can't believe caps gave laich the deal he got ...
Agreed, I think it has a lot to do with the minimum cap number being so high and teams "struggling" to reach it. Also part of the reason I think the Flyers have the scratch to offer Stamkos some money. Teams like Florida and Colorado are going to have to eat some higher priced salaries to make the minimum.
Yeah...I think the bottom floor is $42 million ?
Ive heard Ryder,Madden and Cole on the Flyers radar...not exactly studs
Actually its $48.3 mil, $9 mil higher than the cap ceiling was after the lockout (amazing). And no, none of those guys stand out, but could fill roles on the team, especially with the departure of Powe and the Flyers apparent weakness in the faceoff circle.
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I honestly think whatever offer sheet Stamkos gets TB will match
I think so too unless a team offers a one or two year at or close to the $12 mil max. Panaccio seems to think that this is what the Flyers are mulling (offering a one year deal) that basically precludes Tampa from matching and then worry about a long term deal before the season starts.
And you know that Snider isn't about embarrassing another team so I don't see the Flyers putting out an offer sheet unless they're serious (see Chris Gratton offer sheet/trade).
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I honestly think whatever offer sheet Stamkos gets TB will match
I think so too unless a team offers a one or two year at or close to the $12 mil max. Panaccio seems to think that this is what the Flyers are mulling (offering a one year deal) that basically precludes Tampa from matching and then worry about a long term deal before the season starts.
And you know that Snider isn't about embarrassing another team so I don't see the Flyers putting out an offer sheet unless they're serious (see Chris Gratton offer sheet/trade).
That would be interesting with the 1 year deal then sign him long term later on. I wonder how much Stamkos wants to play in TB ?
I know they owe a boat load of money to Vinny and St.Louis
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stamkos is a real gamble ... you are basically putting a window of a couple of years to win it all ... you basically forego your future with draft picks and future salary commitments ...
i think if the flyers offered stamkos ... one of those ridiculous kovalchuk type deals ... TB should probably take the draft picks ... and use the money to sign some other guys ...
I can't quote posts on my phone, but I'd say the exact same thing to Rangers fans, Wings fans, or anyone who thought they could get Stamkos with $8 million in cap room and other players who still need to be signed.
Yeah, they could never trade players to make cap space :?
It's a long shot that they sign stamkos but to say it's irrational is shortsighted
I can't quote posts on my phone, but I'd say the exact same thing to Rangers fans, Wings fans, or anyone who thought they could get Stamkos with $8 million in cap room and other players who still need to be signed.
Yeah, they could never trade players to make cap space :?
It's a long shot that they sign stamkos but to say it's irrational is shortsighted
They already traded Richards and Carter to make cap space, and they still have yet to sign the RFAs they acquired from those trades. Even if they had $9 or 10 million to offer Stamkos, do you think a team like Winnipeg with $28 million to spend wouldn't offer more?
I can't quote posts on my phone, but I'd say the exact same thing to Rangers fans, Wings fans, or anyone who thought they could get Stamkos with $8 million in cap room and other players who still need to be signed.
Yeah, they could never trade players to make cap space :?
It's a long shot that they sign stamkos but to say it's irrational is shortsighted
They already traded Richards and Carter to make cap space, and they still have yet to sign the RFAs they acquired from those trades. Even if they had $9 or 10 million to offer Stamkos, do you think a team like Winnipeg with $28 million to spend wouldn't offer more?
they traded richards and carter?? wow, thanks for letting me know.
the flyers can trade the RFAs. and others that have been rumored to be dealt like bobrovsky, versteeg, and carle.
jesus christ, it's not rocket science. they have a lot of cap space, they can make moves to get more cap space (or go over the cap and make the moves after the fact). what's so hard to understand about that?
philly and/or toronto will be doling out offer sheets. will be interesting which one stamkos picks. he will probably end up with tampa, but it's gonna be an interesting 24-48 hours.
I honestly think whatever offer sheet Stamkos gets TB will match
I think so too unless a team offers a one or two year at or close to the $12 mil max. Panaccio seems to think that this is what the Flyers are mulling (offering a one year deal) that basically precludes Tampa from matching and then worry about a long term deal before the season starts.
And you know that Snider isn't about embarrassing another team so I don't see the Flyers putting out an offer sheet unless they're serious (see Chris Gratton offer sheet/trade).
I heard that earlier also heard Tampa could bone us and wait the full 7 days and then match. Which in that time all the real good free agents would be gone already.
I honestly think whatever offer sheet Stamkos gets TB will match
I think so too unless a team offers a one or two year at or close to the $12 mil max. Panaccio seems to think that this is what the Flyers are mulling (offering a one year deal) that basically precludes Tampa from matching and then worry about a long term deal before the season starts.
And you know that Snider isn't about embarrassing another team so I don't see the Flyers putting out an offer sheet unless they're serious (see Chris Gratton offer sheet/trade).
I heard that earlier also heard Tampa could bone us and wait the full 7 days and then match. Which in that time all the real good free agents would be gone already.
tampa is screwed if stamkos signs an offer sheet with anyone. they lost between 20 and 30 million last year. they are bleeding money.
stamkos has yzerman bent over like zed bent over marcellus wallace in pulp fiction
they traded richards and carter?? wow, thanks for letting me know.
the flyers can trade the RFAs. and others that have been rumored to be dealt like bobrovsky, versteeg, and carle.
jesus christ, it's not rocket science. they have a lot of cap space, they can make moves to get more cap space (or go over the cap and make the moves after the fact). what's so hard to understand about that?
philly and/or toronto will be doling out offer sheets. will be interesting which one stamkos picks. he will probably end up with tampa, but it's gonna be an interesting 24-48 hours.
They actually don't have "a lot of cap space." 26 teams have more cap space than the Flyers. And you still have to replace anyone you trade, which will cost an absolute minimum of about a half million per player if you only sign rookies and garbage veterans. Unless you want to be like New Jersey after signing Kovalchuk and have to ice a 17 man roster when a few injuries occur.
They have a cap calculator on this site: http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=24 You don't have to take my word for it. You can add Stamkos to the roster for $10 million and see for yourself how ridiculous it would be to make that happen.
they traded richards and carter?? wow, thanks for letting me know.
the flyers can trade the RFAs. and others that have been rumored to be dealt like bobrovsky, versteeg, and carle.
jesus christ, it's not rocket science. they have a lot of cap space, they can make moves to get more cap space (or go over the cap and make the moves after the fact). what's so hard to understand about that?
philly and/or toronto will be doling out offer sheets. will be interesting which one stamkos picks. he will probably end up with tampa, but it's gonna be an interesting 24-48 hours.
They actually don't have "a lot of cap space." 26 teams have more cap space than the Flyers. And you still have to replace anyone you trade, which will cost an absolute minimum of about a half million per player if you only sign rookies and garbage veterans. Unless you want to be like New Jersey after signing Kovalchuk and have to ice a 17 man roster when a few injuries occur.
They have a cap calculator on this site: http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=24 You don't have to take my word for it. You can add Stamkos to the roster for $10 million and see for yourself how ridiculous it would be to make that happen.
You started out saying that they would never get Stamkos. Now you're saying it's irrational. I'm not saying it isn't irrational, but there is definitely a chance that they will get him. It's clear that the Flyers have never been afraid of making extremely bold moves. Not that it necessarily does anything good for them...
They have fewer cap space than most of the league because they spend more money than almost any team. Which is because they are in one of the best hockey markets (with NY & Toronto) and have an owner who is absolutely desparate to win the Cup.
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they traded richards and carter?? wow, thanks for letting me know.
the flyers can trade the RFAs. and others that have been rumored to be dealt like bobrovsky, versteeg, and carle.
jesus christ, it's not rocket science. they have a lot of cap space, they can make moves to get more cap space (or go over the cap and make the moves after the fact). what's so hard to understand about that?
philly and/or toronto will be doling out offer sheets. will be interesting which one stamkos picks. he will probably end up with tampa, but it's gonna be an interesting 24-48 hours.
They actually don't have "a lot of cap space." 26 teams have more cap space than the Flyers. And you still have to replace anyone you trade, which will cost an absolute minimum of about a half million per player if you only sign rookies and garbage veterans. Unless you want to be like New Jersey after signing Kovalchuk and have to ice a 17 man roster when a few injuries occur.
They have a cap calculator on this site: http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=24 You don't have to take my word for it. You can add Stamkos to the roster for $10 million and see for yourself how ridiculous it would be to make that happen.
You started out saying that they would never get Stamkos. Now you're saying it's irrational. I'm not saying it isn't irrational, but there is definitely a chance that they will get him. It's clear that the Flyers have never been afraid of making extremely bold moves. Not that it necessarily does anything good for them...
They have fewer cap space than most of the league because they spend more money than almost any team. Which is because they are in one of the best hockey markets (with NY & Toronto) and have an owner who is absolutely desparate to win the Cup.
plus there is a max annual salary they can offer him (I think it's around 12 million). so it doesnt matter if they have 7 mill in cap space or 50 mill in cap space. They just need to get up around 9-10 million, which they are capable of doing.
now leave us alone and go start a red wings thread
You started out saying that they would never get Stamkos. Now you're saying it's irrational. I'm not saying it isn't irrational, but there is definitely a chance that they will get him. It's clear that the Flyers have never been afraid of making extremely bold moves. Not that it necessarily does anything good for them...
They have fewer cap space than most of the league because they spend more money than almost any team. Which is because they are in one of the best hockey markets (with NY & Toronto) and have an owner who is absolutely desparate to win the Cup.
I personally still don't think there is a chance at all. Yzerman has gone on record saying that the Lightning will match any offer, and the Flyers can't really offer anything that another team can't exceed. I'm just showing why it's also completely irrational to the people who do think there is a chance.
plus there is a max annual salary they can offer him (I think it's around 12 million). so it doesnt matter if they have 7 mill in cap space or 50 mill in cap space. They just need to get up around 9-10 million, which they are capable of doing.
now leave us alone and go start a red wings thread
I'm well aware of this, and it does matter. The Lightning will definitely match $9 or 10 million. It would probably take the max or close to it to actually get him. You'd have to move about a 4 million dollar contract just for Stamkos, and that's without signing anyone else that needs to be signed to complete the roster.
And I've tried that, but, unfortunately, this thread and the Rangers thread are the only ones that stay active. And Rangers fans really aren't saying anything interesting right now.
plus there is a max annual salary they can offer him (I think it's around 12 million). so it doesnt matter if they have 7 mill in cap space or 50 mill in cap space. They just need to get up around 9-10 million, which they are capable of doing.
now leave us alone and go start a red wings thread
I'm well aware of this, and it does matter. The Lightning will definitely match $9 or 10 million. It would probably take the max or close to it to actually get him. You'd have to move about a 4 million dollar contract just for Stamkos, and that's without signing anyone else that needs to be signed to complete the roster.
And I've tried that, but, unfortunately, this thread and the Rangers thread are the only ones that stay active. And Rangers fans really aren't saying anything interesting right now.
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True but you forget to mention that Tampa lost $20-25 million last year. There is no way in hell they are spending up to the cap. They also have about 4 or 5 players to sign (or add to roster) to be able to field a team.
The Flyers have a shot for the sheer fact that they have some flexibility. I'm not saying its going to happen but its a possibility give the Flyers cap and draft situation.
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Would take a helluva effort to get everything done
Then if TB takes the full 7 days they could lose out on other free agents
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free agent class this year is weak and overpriced ... can't believe caps gave laich the deal he got ...
Agreed, I think it has a lot to do with the minimum cap number being so high and teams "struggling" to reach it. Also part of the reason I think the Flyers have the scratch to offer Stamkos some money. Teams like Florida and Colorado are going to have to eat some higher priced salaries to make the minimum.
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Yeah...I think the bottom floor is $42 million ?
Ive heard Ryder,Madden and Cole on the Flyers radar...not exactly studs
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Actually its $48.3 mil, $9 mil higher than the cap ceiling was after the lockout (amazing). And no, none of those guys stand out, but could fill roles on the team, especially with the departure of Powe and the Flyers apparent weakness in the faceoff circle.
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I honestly think whatever offer sheet Stamkos gets TB will match
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I think so too unless a team offers a one or two year at or close to the $12 mil max. Panaccio seems to think that this is what the Flyers are mulling (offering a one year deal) that basically precludes Tampa from matching and then worry about a long term deal before the season starts.
And you know that Snider isn't about embarrassing another team so I don't see the Flyers putting out an offer sheet unless they're serious (see Chris Gratton offer sheet/trade).
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That would be interesting with the 1 year deal then sign him long term later on. I wonder how much Stamkos wants to play in TB ?
I know they owe a boat load of money to Vinny and St.Louis
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i think if the flyers offered stamkos ... one of those ridiculous kovalchuk type deals ... TB should probably take the draft picks ... and use the money to sign some other guys ...
Langenbrunner too. Seems like they've been after him for a decade
Yeah, they could never trade players to make cap space :?
It's a long shot that they sign stamkos but to say it's irrational is shortsighted
They already traded Richards and Carter to make cap space, and they still have yet to sign the RFAs they acquired from those trades. Even if they had $9 or 10 million to offer Stamkos, do you think a team like Winnipeg with $28 million to spend wouldn't offer more?
they traded richards and carter?? wow, thanks for letting me know.
the flyers can trade the RFAs. and others that have been rumored to be dealt like bobrovsky, versteeg, and carle.
jesus christ, it's not rocket science. they have a lot of cap space, they can make moves to get more cap space (or go over the cap and make the moves after the fact). what's so hard to understand about that?
philly and/or toronto will be doling out offer sheets. will be interesting which one stamkos picks. he will probably end up with tampa, but it's gonna be an interesting 24-48 hours.
tampa is screwed if stamkos signs an offer sheet with anyone. they lost between 20 and 30 million last year. they are bleeding money.
stamkos has yzerman bent over like zed bent over marcellus wallace in pulp fiction
They actually don't have "a lot of cap space." 26 teams have more cap space than the Flyers. And you still have to replace anyone you trade, which will cost an absolute minimum of about a half million per player if you only sign rookies and garbage veterans. Unless you want to be like New Jersey after signing Kovalchuk and have to ice a 17 man roster when a few injuries occur.
They have a cap calculator on this site: http://capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=24 You don't have to take my word for it. You can add Stamkos to the roster for $10 million and see for yourself how ridiculous it would be to make that happen.
You started out saying that they would never get Stamkos. Now you're saying it's irrational. I'm not saying it isn't irrational, but there is definitely a chance that they will get him. It's clear that the Flyers have never been afraid of making extremely bold moves. Not that it necessarily does anything good for them...
They have fewer cap space than most of the league because they spend more money than almost any team. Which is because they are in one of the best hockey markets (with NY & Toronto) and have an owner who is absolutely desparate to win the Cup.
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plus there is a max annual salary they can offer him (I think it's around 12 million). so it doesnt matter if they have 7 mill in cap space or 50 mill in cap space. They just need to get up around 9-10 million, which they are capable of doing.
now leave us alone and go start a red wings thread
I personally still don't think there is a chance at all. Yzerman has gone on record saying that the Lightning will match any offer, and the Flyers can't really offer anything that another team can't exceed. I'm just showing why it's also completely irrational to the people who do think there is a chance.
I'm well aware of this, and it does matter. The Lightning will definitely match $9 or 10 million. It would probably take the max or close to it to actually get him. You'd have to move about a 4 million dollar contract just for Stamkos, and that's without signing anyone else that needs to be signed to complete the roster.
And I've tried that, but, unfortunately, this thread and the Rangers thread are the only ones that stay active. And Rangers fans really aren't saying anything interesting right now.
and hopefully tampa waits all 7 days on purpose
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Man, if he did sign, this alone would be worth it.