Ledger's performance was the single greatest I've EVER seen. Period.
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Ledger's performance was the single greatest I've EVER seen. Period.
yeah me too. I'm actually watching it right now. I downloaded a hand-held bootleg of it. Just to watch while I wait for the DVD. the quality actually isn't that bad considering. though I can see me making another trip to the theater because it was that awesome.
Now I love Tim Burton, but this movie looks so cheesy now.. And Lando Calrissian is Harvey Dent!
off-topic rant:
I've seen Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi many times. And I gotta say that Billy Dee Williams is HORRIBLE in them. He says his lines so poorly. especially during the attack on the death star in Jedi. Go back and watch them and really pay attention to him. it's bad. Token black guy to say the least.
But I can't be a complete hater, he did star in the single greatest commercial ever made:
I've seen Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi many times. And I gotta say that Billy Dee Williams is HORRIBLE in them. He says his lines so poorly. especially during the attack on the death star in Jedi. Go back and watch them and really pay attention to him. it's bad. Token black guy to say the least.
But I can't be a complete hater, he did star in the single greatest commercial ever made:
unlike with the new ones, i always got the feeling that the old star wars were supposed to be cheesy... they were cheesy in a B-movie kindof way... episode I-III were cheesy in a shitty way
lando rocks! and so does his weird faced co-pilot!
i hope he plays as big of a role as the scarecrow in TDK
Hahah...told ya. Nothing lame about it. I'd love to see Two-Face again.
Two-Face + Catwoman + Black Mask/Madhatter/Bane = Another great one.
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i hope he plays as big of a role as the scarecrow in TDK
I know you've been against this. I really think he could have been built up better in Dark Knight to be the main villain in the next one. He wasn't. but you need him somewhere (hopefully in a bigger role than Scarecrow) because at least he's established. I still contend that the ONLY villain left that would fit into this "realistic" Batman that Nolan is doing is Riddler....and even he's a bit of a stretch.
Hahah...told ya. Nothing lame about it. I'd love to see Two-Face again.
Two-Face + Catwoman + Black Mask/Madhatter/Bane = Another great one.
goodluck to nolan writing in gordons motivation to cover up dents death from batman, his most trusted ally... not to mention a role for him in the new movie that isnt a stale repitition of what he did in TDK... still doesnt make sense to me...
maybe he signed on for a flashback sequence (im not gonna give up this battle!)
I still contend that the ONLY villain left that would fit into this "realistic" Batman that Nolan is doing is Riddler....and even he's a bit of a stretch.
he'd be just like jigsaw from saw or john doe from seven... i could see it working... very creepy and cryptic
unlike with the new ones, i always got the feeling that the old star wars were supposed to be cheesy... they were cheesy in a B-movie kindof way... episode I-III were cheesy in a shitty way
lando rocks! and so does his weird faced co-pilot!
I'm not even talking cheesy! it's bad acting!!!
and from a character standpoint, HE BETRAYED HAN SOLO!! Down with Lando!!
Episodes 1 and 2 are the biggest piles of horseshit ever. Ep3 has some moments. The Emperor is my favorite character from the originals so it was cool for me to see him be prominent in ep3 and turn Vader to evil. that being said, ep3 has a lot of crap in it is as well. I only own the original trilogy.
goodluck to nolan writing in gordons motivation to cover up dents death from batman, his most trusted ally... not to mention a role for him in the new movie that isnt a stale repitition of what he did in TDK... still doesnt make sense to me...
maybe he signed on for a flashback sequence (im not gonna give up this battle!)
cover up dent's death from batman? Wha?
Repitition? Nah....Nolan's not that dumb.
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Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
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and from a character standpoint, HE BETRAYED HAN SOLO!! Down with Lando!!
Episodes 1 and 2 are the biggest piles of horseshit ever. Ep3 has some moments. The Emperor is my favorite character from the originals so it was cool for me to see him be prominent in ep3 and turn Vader to evil. that being said, ep3 has a lot of crap in it is as well. I only own the original trilogy.
what choice did he have?? he wouldve lost bespin if he hadnt!
do you have any idea how hard it is for a brother to succeed in that galaxy far far away??
he'd be just like jigsaw from saw or john doe from seven... i could see it working... very creepy and cryptic
first off, whatever Nolan decides to do, I can see it working. you make good points, but the gimmick of him leaving riddles might not be able to sustain in this realistic setting. it's right up Adam West's ally. but I don't know about here. I mean I'm sure they could make it work somehow.
I don't care too much for Batman Forever but one thing I did like was how they made Riddler obsessed with Bruce Wayne. Unlike Ledger's Joker, who was always in control, I think that this Riddler would have to be more "weak-minded" and crazy...but still cunning in other ways.
and speaking of Batman Forever, having Two-face and Riddler in the third Nolan movie together would be the same as in Batman Forever.
ok the cover up... maybe not... i guess batman would still willingly be taking the fall even if dent was alive...
but repitition... come on... how can he not? we saw both sides of 2 face already... and he was a pretty sane reasonable villain in TDK... killed the people responsible for rachel... i guess towards the end he seemed to be losing his grip on things moreso by going after gordon and his family... whos left for him to go after?
will he just keep going after the corrupt cops of gotham? or does he have some grudge against batman now? whom he owes his life to?
guess i just cant picture what will happen so id rather write him off alltogether...
ok the cover up... maybe not... i guess batman would still willingly be taking the fall even if dent was alive...
but repitition... come on... how can he not? we saw both sides of 2 face already... and he was a pretty sane reasonable villain in TDK... killed the people responsible for rachel... i guess towards the end he seemed to be losing his grip on things moreso by going after gordon and his family... whos left for him to go after?
will he just keep going after the corrupt cops of gotham? or does he have some grudge against batman now? whom he owes his life to?
guess i just cant picture what will happen so id rather write him off alltogether...
Trust me...if Dent returns...Nolan will have something interesting for him to do. I doubt it will just be Oh My Two-Face is back for revenge!
They say I'm rappin like BIG, jay, and tupac
Andre 3000 where is eryka badu at
Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
My name ain't Bic but I keep dat flame man
When Gordon was speaking at a function, surrounded by police officers and (what looked to be) city officials, with two big ass pictures of Harvey in the shot and said "He was the hero Gotham needed, but didn't deserve", is it me, or was that supposed to be a funeral?
I get the 'hidden agenda' stretch people are claiming could lead to Two Face just being locked up in Arkham, but how does that work? There was a battalion of GCPD around the perimeter of that locale. Wouldn't someone say "where's the body"? The cops had that place surrounded and were fastly closing in (even though they didn't know Dent was there). How much time would Gordon have to hide the body, quarter off that section to keep people from looking there, ran back upstairs and tell Barbara and the kids not to mention anything about Harvey being there and whatever else it would take to pull this ruse off? Did Two Face just eventually get up and run off on his own? How does this 'he's still alive' argument work.
Oh yeah, i've seen the lando references in this thread too. Made me smile, so to anyone who thinks Harvey is still alive, i have my own Star Wars input for you. I'm Vader, and i ain't listening ....;)
When Gordon was speaking at a function, surrounded by police officers and (what looked to be) city officials, with two big ass pictures of Harvey in the shot and said "He was the hero Gotham needed, but didn't deserve", is it me, or was that supposed to be a funeral?
I get the 'hidden agenda' stretch people are claiming could lead to Two Face just being locked up in Arkham, but how does that work? There was a battalion of GCPD around the perimeter of that locale. Wouldn't someone say "where's the body"? The cops had that place surrounded and were fastly closing in (even though they didn't know Dent was there). How much time would Gordon have to hide the body, quarter off that section to keep people from looking there, ran back upstairs and tell Barbara and the kids not to mention anything about Harvey being there and whatever else it would take to pull this ruse off? Did Two Face just eventually get up and run off on his own? How does this 'he's still alive' argument work.
Oh yeah, i've seen the lando references in this thread too. Made me smile, so to anyone who thinks Harvey is still alive, i have my own Star Wars input for you. I'm Vader, and i ain't listening ....;)
FINALLY some support on the WHY and HOW is dent still alive... my only guess is that the next installment will begin with dent en route to a hospital or something and he pulls a skin masked hannibal lecter move and escapes... but even still... wouldnt the cops surrounding the place wonder why gordon and his family and dent and batman were all hanging out in an old abandoned warhouse? nolan did this on purpose so all us batman nerds would sit here racking our brains over it! ASSHOLE! hes skilled enough to write his way out of this though and i cant wait to see the next movie
So you know the building the Joker hid in at the end while watching the ferries?
I just wanted to say I'm looking at it right now outside my window.
And I'm bored....
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Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
My name ain't Bic but I keep dat flame man
Anyone else pick up the Dark Knight score? It's awesome. Just like everything else with this movie, really well done. It doesn't revolve around one central loop like most scores. Each character has a sound all their own.
Highlights are:
1) Why So Serious
3) Harvey Two Face
8) Like a Dog Chasing Cars
10) And I thought My Jokes Were Bad
14) The Dark Knight
OK, the film was released here today, and i have tickets for the 10.30pm showing tomorrow night with my girlfriend, dad, and two other friends.
Obviously, i can't wait to see it and i've done well to stay away from most spoilers. All i know is that a fairly major character dies, and we see Dent's transition into Two-Face.
I've read endless spoiler-free reviews, and after seeing almost every magazine and website give it full marks, i need to know....is it really THAT good? Is it really surpassing the hype in a way that the new Star Wars films and Indiana Jones film failed to do?
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I thought Bale's voice was so overdone and cheesy! I really wasn't buying Batman in this movie. He the shit kicked out of him in the most important scenes. 00
yeah the voice sucked. It wasn't that bad in Batman Begins at all. I wonder why he changed it.
I've read endless spoiler-free reviews, and after seeing almost every magazine and website give it full marks, i need to know....is it really THAT good? Is it really surpassing the hype in a way that the new Star Wars films and Indiana Jones film failed to do?
Well, for starters it's much better than the Star Wars prequels or Indy 4. I mean MUCH, MUCH better.
Ledger is golden. He surpasses the Joker hype. It's not like you're even watching an actor play the Joker. You're really watching the Joker. He's unbelievable.
The rest of the film is really good but it's not the greatest thing you'll ever see. Actually, if you take away the Joker, I'd probably prefer Batman Begins. But I can't stress enough (like everyone else who saw it) how great Heath Ledger is. You'll be hanging on his every word and every action.
Easily the best film of 2008 and, in my opinion, the best comic book movie ever made. and Ledger's performance is the best in the history of action movies.
Well, for starters it's much better than the Star Wars prequels or Indy 4. I mean MUCH, MUCH better.
Ledger is golden. He surpasses the Joker hype. It's not like you're even watching an actor play the Joker. You're really watching the Joker. He's unbelievable.
The rest of the film is really good but it's not the greatest thing you'll ever see. Actually, if you take away the Joker, I'd probably prefer Batman Begins. But I can't stress enough (like everyone else who saw it) how great Heath Ledger is. You'll be hanging on his every word and every action.
Easily the best film of 2008 and, in my opinion, the best comic book movie ever made. and Ledger's performance is the best in the history of action movies.
Excellent post, I totally agree (although I prefer the action in Dark Knight to Batman Begins). Words can barely do justice to Ledger's performance, it was just amazing to watch someone embody their character so perfectly.
Excellent post, I totally agree (although I prefer the action in Dark Knight to Batman Begins). Words can barely do justice to Ledger's performance, it was just amazing to watch someone embody their character so perfectly.
yeah I downloaded a bootleg version of the film (which isn't that bad actually) just so I can have the Joker scenes on my computer until the DVD comes out
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and for anyone interested, theres a cool special on the history channel right now about the technology of batman... pretty cool
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I think that's what he looks like all the time. If you've seen Lost, he looks the same way.
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yeah me too. I'm actually watching it right now. I downloaded a hand-held bootleg of it. Just to watch while I wait for the DVD. the quality actually isn't that bad considering. though I can see me making another trip to the theater because it was that awesome.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
off-topic rant:
I've seen Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi many times. And I gotta say that Billy Dee Williams is HORRIBLE in them. He says his lines so poorly. especially during the attack on the death star in Jedi. Go back and watch them and really pay attention to him. it's bad. Token black guy to say the least.
But I can't be a complete hater, he did star in the single greatest commercial ever made:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0pK5HmuCMBM
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
i hope he plays as big of a role as the scarecrow in TDK
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lando rocks! and so does his weird faced co-pilot!
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Hahah...told ya. Nothing lame about it. I'd love to see Two-Face again.
Two-Face + Catwoman + Black Mask/Madhatter/Bane = Another great one.
Andre 3000 where is eryka badu at
Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
My name ain't Bic but I keep dat flame man
2008 CHICAGO CUBS MAGIC NUMBER = 62
BEAR DOWN!!!!!
I know you've been against this. I really think he could have been built up better in Dark Knight to be the main villain in the next one. He wasn't. but you need him somewhere (hopefully in a bigger role than Scarecrow) because at least he's established. I still contend that the ONLY villain left that would fit into this "realistic" Batman that Nolan is doing is Riddler....and even he's a bit of a stretch.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
maybe he signed on for a flashback sequence (im not gonna give up this battle!)
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I'm not even talking cheesy! it's bad acting!!!
and from a character standpoint, HE BETRAYED HAN SOLO!! Down with Lando!!
Episodes 1 and 2 are the biggest piles of horseshit ever. Ep3 has some moments. The Emperor is my favorite character from the originals so it was cool for me to see him be prominent in ep3 and turn Vader to evil. that being said, ep3 has a lot of crap in it is as well. I only own the original trilogy.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
cover up dent's death from batman? Wha?
Repitition? Nah....Nolan's not that dumb.
Andre 3000 where is eryka badu at
Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
My name ain't Bic but I keep dat flame man
2008 CHICAGO CUBS MAGIC NUMBER = 62
BEAR DOWN!!!!!
do you have any idea how hard it is for a brother to succeed in that galaxy far far away??
he redeemed himself in ROTJ
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first off, whatever Nolan decides to do, I can see it working. you make good points, but the gimmick of him leaving riddles might not be able to sustain in this realistic setting. it's right up Adam West's ally. but I don't know about here. I mean I'm sure they could make it work somehow.
I don't care too much for Batman Forever but one thing I did like was how they made Riddler obsessed with Bruce Wayne. Unlike Ledger's Joker, who was always in control, I think that this Riddler would have to be more "weak-minded" and crazy...but still cunning in other ways.
and speaking of Batman Forever, having Two-face and Riddler in the third Nolan movie together would be the same as in Batman Forever.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
oh don't give me that, he got his job in Cloud City because of Affirmative Action!
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but repitition... come on... how can he not? we saw both sides of 2 face already... and he was a pretty sane reasonable villain in TDK... killed the people responsible for rachel... i guess towards the end he seemed to be losing his grip on things moreso by going after gordon and his family... whos left for him to go after?
will he just keep going after the corrupt cops of gotham? or does he have some grudge against batman now? whom he owes his life to?
guess i just cant picture what will happen so id rather write him off alltogether...
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Trust me...if Dent returns...Nolan will have something interesting for him to do. I doubt it will just be Oh My Two-Face is back for revenge!
Andre 3000 where is eryka badu at
Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
My name ain't Bic but I keep dat flame man
2008 CHICAGO CUBS MAGIC NUMBER = 62
BEAR DOWN!!!!!
I get the 'hidden agenda' stretch people are claiming could lead to Two Face just being locked up in Arkham, but how does that work? There was a battalion of GCPD around the perimeter of that locale. Wouldn't someone say "where's the body"? The cops had that place surrounded and were fastly closing in (even though they didn't know Dent was there). How much time would Gordon have to hide the body, quarter off that section to keep people from looking there, ran back upstairs and tell Barbara and the kids not to mention anything about Harvey being there and whatever else it would take to pull this ruse off? Did Two Face just eventually get up and run off on his own? How does this 'he's still alive' argument work.
Oh yeah, i've seen the lando references in this thread too. Made me smile, so to anyone who thinks Harvey is still alive, i have my own Star Wars input for you. I'm Vader, and i ain't listening ....;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5blbv4WFriM
and that vader thing was hilarious!
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I just wanted to say I'm looking at it right now outside my window.
And I'm bored....
Andre 3000 where is eryka badu at
Who dat
Who dat said dey gon beat lil wayne
My name ain't Bic but I keep dat flame man
2008 CHICAGO CUBS MAGIC NUMBER = 62
BEAR DOWN!!!!!
Highlights are:
1) Why So Serious
3) Harvey Two Face
8) Like a Dog Chasing Cars
10) And I thought My Jokes Were Bad
14) The Dark Knight
Obviously, i can't wait to see it and i've done well to stay away from most spoilers. All i know is that a fairly major character dies, and we see Dent's transition into Two-Face.
I've read endless spoiler-free reviews, and after seeing almost every magazine and website give it full marks, i need to know....is it really THAT good? Is it really surpassing the hype in a way that the new Star Wars films and Indiana Jones film failed to do?
yeah the voice sucked. It wasn't that bad in Batman Begins at all. I wonder why he changed it.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Well, for starters it's much better than the Star Wars prequels or Indy 4. I mean MUCH, MUCH better.
Ledger is golden. He surpasses the Joker hype. It's not like you're even watching an actor play the Joker. You're really watching the Joker. He's unbelievable.
The rest of the film is really good but it's not the greatest thing you'll ever see. Actually, if you take away the Joker, I'd probably prefer Batman Begins. But I can't stress enough (like everyone else who saw it) how great Heath Ledger is. You'll be hanging on his every word and every action.
Easily the best film of 2008 and, in my opinion, the best comic book movie ever made. and Ledger's performance is the best in the history of action movies.
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com
Excellent post, I totally agree (although I prefer the action in Dark Knight to Batman Begins). Words can barely do justice to Ledger's performance, it was just amazing to watch someone embody their character so perfectly.
yeah I downloaded a bootleg version of the film (which isn't that bad actually) just so I can have the Joker scenes on my computer until the DVD comes out
Pearl Jam bootlegs:
http://wegotshit.blogspot.com