'Sopranos' final season to begin April 8

eddies grrl

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

edie stole the show in the acting department. you don't believe for one second that she's not carm. one of the best performances i have ever seen on tv, or film!

i actually cried when she was talking to him about that year down the shore with artie & his wife, while tom petty was playing on the boombox. it was so personal & so real, it was almost too painful to watch. i felt like a voyeur.

bostonlou

fakeplastictree wrote:

I hope the guy who hung himself really didn't die.

ummm... did you see him convulsing and then hear his piss hit the floor??

I don't think you can fake pissing yourself



i loved when edie was talking about getting all hot down there... I was hoping Van Helsing would walk in behind her

personally I thought this weeks show sucked... not sure if i'm not artsy enough to "appreciate" it but wtf... get back to the sopranos... not kevin finnerty

bostonlou

joseduca wrote:

Some random comments:
1- Did you notice the voices of the AJ and Meadow on the phone were different? Sounded like they were much younger.

Not younger... just middle america... less goomba... Carmelas voice was also different ... none of them were speaking with NJ accents

Obi Once wrote:

what about Paulie proposing to buy Tony a little stereo and Chris buying it before Paulie.. typical

you think either of them would BUY a radio? you know if "fell off a truck"

eddies grrl

the kids were definitely supposed to BE younger, since they were both living at home and meadow said mommy had "put a.j. to bed early". i don't think carm puts a.j. to bed anymore...

i got the impression that he was dreaming of what he thought his life might have been like had he not been in the goomba business. some good, some bad. but definitely more "average" that the sopranos we know & love.

eddies grrl

bostonlou wrote:

....personally I thought this weeks show sucked... not sure if i'm not artsy enough to "appreciate" it but wtf... get back to the sopranos... not kevin finnerty

it was definitely a departure from their usual format, but it wasn't out of place in the whole scheme of the series. since the beginning, we have seen tony struggling internally with alot of issues, and his sessions with melfi have brought many of his fears and doubts to the surface, where he's not too comfortable having them. this episode went inside his head during this traumatic experience he's having, giving us a glimpse of his psyche right now, and imo, it was done really, really well.

besides, the family (and "the family") are having their own struggles as they are forced to function without him. amazing how chaos ensues, and true feelings are revealed, when the embattled leader can't lead.

bostonlou

eddie's grrl wrote:

it was definitely a departure from their usual format, but it wasn't out of place in the whole scheme of the series. since the beginning, we have seen tony struggling internally with alot of issues, and his sessions with melfi have brought many of his fears and doubts to the surface, where he's not too comfortable having them. this episode went inside his head during this traumatic experience he's having, giving us a glimpse of his psyche right now, and imo, it was done really, really well.

besides, the family (and "the family") are having their own struggles as they are forced to function without him. amazing how chaos ensues, and true feelings are revealed, when the embattled leader can't lead.

yeah... i guess i could try to look deeper into it but when i watched it sunday night i just wanted to see Tony bang some russian chick and then someone get whacked... just wasn't in the mood

reading the other posts in this thread has opened me up to it a bit... like the purgatory thing... that's cool... if you want to think and stuff

obviously i go back and forth

privatejoker22

eddie's grrl wrote:

i got the impression that he was dreaming of what he thought his life might have been like had he not been in the goomba business. some good, some bad. but definitely more "average" that the sopranos we know & love.

I couldn't agree with that more. In his dream, Tony was definitely leading an average life. Look at the way he reacted when they wouldn't let him into the conference or when he was confronted by the priests? Do you think Tony would have been told to leave a conference that he wanted to attend so peacefully? I definitely think he may have had some choice words.
As for the priests, Tony acted like a punk. He didn't retaliate, he instead tried to tell on them. The old Tony wouldn't have thought twice about smacking those guys around, priest or no priest.
I definitely think it was a look at life as an "ordinary Joe" or Kevin in this case.

That being said, it wasn't one of my favorite episodes. A little slow for my taste, but the future is looking bright.

mookie blaylock 10

eddie's grrl wrote:

i actually cried when she was talking to him about that year down the shore with artie & his wife, while tom petty was playing on the boombox. it was so personal & so real, it was almost too painful to watch. i felt like a voyeur.

felt very real! incredible!

mookie blaylock 10

"all due respect" to those with purgatory theories, but doesn't one have to die before your soul ends up in purgatory? tony's still alive, albeit in a coma, but i think his lost feeling is just a state of the coma. there were the obvious religous references...the screen on the tv with the cross, the fires burning on the other side of town and the bartender saying the town was "dead", tony trying to get into the "conference" to hear the colonel talk (like being at the "pearly gates" and trying to gain entry into the big house to see the big man), and the buddhists, etc....i feel like he is searching for something...like his way home, in a semi-conscious state...and a lot of questions are there that he is trying to understand, like if he'd led a different path in life, where his soul is going, what is his true identity - the loving father, or the "business" man, and so on and so on...

anyway, rambling thoughts about a fantastic episode...

eddies grrl

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sorry

not for nuthin'

eddies grrl

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

"all due respect" to those with purgatory theories, but doesn't one have to die before your soul ends up in purgatory? tony's still alive, albeit in a coma, but i think his lost feeling is just a state of the coma. there were the obvious religous references...the screen on the tv with the cross, the fires burning on the other side of town and the bartender saying the town was "dead", tony trying to get into the "conference" to hear the colonel talk (like being at the "pearly gates" and trying to gain entry into the big house to see the big man), and the buddhists, etc....i feel like he is searching for something...like his way home, in a semi-conscious state...and a lot of questions are there that he is trying to understand, like if he'd led a different path in life, where his soul is going, what is his true identity - the loving father, or the "business" man, and so on and so on...

anyway, rambling thoughts about a fantastic episode...

really insightful rambling thoughts from a neo-paisan... here, i made ya a nice bowl of pastavazool. sit, eat.

i agree about the purgatory concept. i don't think he's there, yet. i don;t think he's going to die, but who knows. he could stay in a coma for the rest of the series, going in and out of bizarre dream states, maybe incorporating some of the sounds and sights from the outside world into the dreams. those possibilities are endless! meanwhile, everyone around him will be struggling with their own issues. god, i love this show!!

Bathgate66

came across this theory over at BTX- the Springsteen message boards - & thought i'd share this with fellow Jammers.:
http://www.backstreets.com/btx/viewtopic.php?t=164439&highlight=sopranos+spoiler


I don't think this would be a spoiler, I have now heard it on three NY radio staions, but they won't confirm or deny. Thougt I'd pass it along to you "made" men and women that enjoy the show:


Rumor Has It :
I heard that Sunday's show WAS the series finale and the next 19 episodes takes place form the end of last season leading UP TO Sundays show. Exhibit a: Tony's neice - where did she come from ? b:Carmela mentioning Adrianna gone a year already. c: Tony never had that boat. ( There was more on the radio but thats all I remember in detail).

Bathgate66

silly message pit
double post
sorry folks

bostonlou

Bathgate66 wrote:

Rumor Has It :
I heard that Sunday's show WAS the series finale and the next 19 episodes takes place form the end of last season leading UP TO Sundays show. Exhibit a: Tony's neice - where did she come from ? b:Carmela mentioning Adrianna gone a year already. c: Tony never had that boat. ( There was more on the radio but thats all I remember in detail).

fuckin movie memento gave people all kinds of shitty ideas

i think/hope they just planned to start this season a predetermined amount of time since the last season... it's not like 24 where it's all in order

right?

FishOil

Bathgate66 wrote:

Rumor Has It :
I heard that Sunday's show WAS the series finale and the next 19 episodes takes place form the end of last season leading UP TO Sundays show. Exhibit a: Tony's neice - where did she come from ? b:Carmela mentioning Adrianna gone a year already. c: Tony never had that boat. ( There was more on the radio but thats all I remember in detail).

Could be, but this wouldn't make sense given the preview to Episode 3 that they showed right after episode 2.

Then again, they did this last season. For example, at the end of Season 4 Bobby and Janice are dating. At the beginning of season 5, they are married. I think it's just the show's way of moving things forward and not bogging it down with needless stuff.

privatejoker22

FishOil wrote:

Then again, they did this last season. For example, at the end of Season 4 Bobby and Janice are dating. At the beginning of season 5, they are married. I think it's just the show's way of moving things forward and not bogging it down with needless stuff.

Agreed. The series has jumped time before. That is one of the cool things about the show, it doesn't restrict itself like other shows. If they want to skip Janice's wedding and other needless crap, then they can.

FishOil

privatejoker22 wrote:

If they want to skip Janice's wedding and other needless crap, then they can.

And thank God they did....didn't have much interest in watching Janice and Bobby professing their vows. I'd rather go back to watching water boil.

Anon

privatejoker22 wrote:

Agreed. The series has jumped time before. That is one of the cool things about the show, it doesn't restrict itself like other shows. If they want to skip Janice's wedding and other needless crap, then they can.

I'm hoping that is all that is going on, I would hate to think that last weeks episode was the season finale!

privatejoker22

Dollpartz wrote:

I'm hoping that is all that is going on, I would hate to think that last weeks episode was the season finale!

After the first episode, I thought that that could be a possiblity, but now I think it is pretty clear that the show is moving forward. It seems like a lot of the theories that have been flying around are a little over the top. The man is in a coma. He may live, he may not. The story of the family will move forward regardless.

Anon

privatejoker22 wrote:

After the first episode, I thought that that could be a possiblity, but now I think it is pretty clear that the show is moving forward. It seems like a lot of the theories that have been flying around are a little over the top. The man is in a coma. He may live, he may not. The story of the family will move forward regardless.

Exactly. It was compared earlier in this thread to the storyline in Six Feet Under where Nate, the main character, died midway through the season and then the rest of the shows focused on the remaining characters and how they dealt with the loss. I don't necessarily think that Tony will die, but it is interesting now to watch the chaos with all of the other characters while he is in this coma.

It has also been pretty well publicized that Julianna Margulies from ER is going to be on the show this season as Tony's new goomah, so I'm guessing he comes out of the coma well before the end of the season.