Fucked up situation

catch22

jeffbr wrote:

I understand the best man thing, but once a best man does something to put my life and legal standing in jeopardy, I am not concerned about him. It isn't like he had a kegger and didn't clean up after the party. He committed a very serious crime witch will involve law enforcement doing forensic analysis on every computer in that house. It will bring heat down on every resident of the home. If he doesn't call the cops, he is now aiding and abetting, and could possibly spend time with his buddy behind bars.

I would not wait 2 seconds to call the cops. You want to show that you acted immediatley, that you had no prior knowledge, that you don't condone the actions in any way, shape or form.

i doubt that. if you have a roommate who is addicted to drugs and you try to get them into rehab, they don't jail you for dealing (unless you're black). he's not going to get aiding and abetting, this isn't like he helped conceal a murder. but he could end up being charged for possession, plain and simple. it's a dangerous spot. bottom line is, deleting this and pretending it didn't happen is not a solution. he's either got to confront his buddy and force him to get help or he's got to call the cops.

chadwick

but um,
how can anyone in their right mind be a friend to a child porn, child predator?
it just isn't possible, not in my fucking world it ain't.
no way, no how, never ever gonna happen.
kick them fuckers to the curb.
they will remain lonely and in cold shadows for all i care.
and i am sorry that i am a harsh prick sometimes but this kinda stuff has zero acceptance, none, zero, and zip.

catch22

chadwick wrote:

but um,
how can anyone in their right mind be a friend to a child porn, child predator?
it just isn't possible, not in my fucking world it ain't.
no way, no how, never ever gonna happen.
kick them fuckers to the curb.
they will remain lonely and in cold shadows for all i care.
and i am sorry that i am a harsh prick sometimes but this kinda stuff has zero acceptance, none, zero, and zip.

i'm a friend to a lot of scumbags.

blackredyellow

Tough call... it's easy for us to say "call the police", but if it was my best friend, it would be a tough thing to do.

I'd also be scared that he could try to blame you, and it being your IP address and all that stuff. Maybe somehow record the confrontation so you have some sort of proof that before he can figure out how to try to pin it on you.

At the very least, (in my opinion), you have to:
1) Confront him on it
2) Protect yourself legally somehow
3) Get him out of your house NOW

jeffbr

catch22 wrote:

i doubt that. if you have a roommate who is addicted to drugs and you try to get them into rehab, they don't jail you for dealing (unless you're black). he's not going to get aiding and abetting, this isn't like he helped conceal a murder. but he could end up being charged for possession, plain and simple. it's a dangerous spot. bottom line is, deleting this and pretending it didn't happen is not a solution. he's either got to confront his buddy and force him to get help or he's got to call the cops.

OK, I'll concede that the aiding and abetting is probably far-fetched, but I wouldn't take any chances if it were me. And you are right that they could get him for possession. Especially initially until they did sort it all out. I wouldn't not want to be anywhere near a possession charge for child pornography. Even without a conviction, I'm sure that shit will put a stink on you for years and years.

catch22

jeffbr wrote:

OK, I'll concede that the aiding and abetting is probably far-fetched, but I wouldn't take any chances if it were me. And you are right that they could get him for possession. Especially initially until they did sort it all out. I wouldn't not want to be anywhere near a possession charge for child pornography. Even without a conviction, I'm sure that shit will put a stink on you for years and years.

undoubtedly. the mere accusation would destroy your rep. even your closest loved ones will always kind of wonder. before he does anything, he should talk to a lawyer to make sure whatever he does is by the book and won't come back to bite him.

chadwick

catch22 wrote:

i'm a friend to a lot of scumbags.

better you than me mr. 22

i am a solid friend to some very outstanding human beings
that would be willing to fight each other over who gets to break a child
predators neck..true fact

covered in bliss

"When you delete a file, it’s really not deleted,” he said Tuesday. “All that does is remove the pointer or name of the file. But, unless it’s overwritten or the hard drive itself is destroyed, it’s still here and a lost file almost always can be recovered.”http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080429/COL11/80429081/0/NEWS01

Smash the computer to bits and then burn what's left.

As to what you should say/do to your friend --- I have no idea. A tiny part of me feels sorry for him. To go through life like that.... yikes.

chiquimonkey

another thing that struck me, the collection is 1.4 GB?? that is HUGE....that makes it even more serious law-wise i'd imagine.

call a lawyer fast!

Phantom Pain

I would confront him and tell him to leave

Either way they (The Po Po) will find the porn even if you delete it from the hard drive

Tell him to get some help he's obviously not right or volunteer to help him get help

It would take all I had not to smash the computer to pieces over his friggin head

jeffbr

catch22 wrote:

i'm a friend to a lot of scumbags.

I have standards. There are probably varying degrees of scumbaggery and some of my friends may well be classified that way. But I completely agree with Chad on this one. I have zero tolerance for child abusers and people who dabble in child pornography. None.

catch22

chadwick wrote:

better you than me mr. 22

i am a solid friend to some very outstanding human beings
that would be willing to fight each other over who gets to break a child
predators neck..true fact

i can only hope you and your buddies would kill each other off in the struggle so that the rest of civilized society could see this guy in court where he belongs.

i dont know any perfect human beings unfortunately. some are worse than others. some think they're perfect and are far from it. some are way too hard on themselves. and some are outstanding human beings with serious problems that they need help overcoming, which i am happy to provide so that they can face their demons and learn to help others do the same.

Phantom Pain

chiquimonkey wrote:

another thing that struck me, the collection is 1.4 GB?? that is HUGE....that makes it even more serious law-wise i'd imagine.

call a lawyer fast!

Its sick

Especially if he is in any way in some of these pictures

chromiam

chadwick wrote:

child porn is child porn
zero if's and's or but's about it

the OP said child porn
to me that means exactly that
children not adults

and as I said if that is true than proceed with the torches and burning crosses... but the OP has yet to state if it is actual children younger than 18 or what he seems to think are...

chadwick

jeffbr wrote:

I have standards. There are probably varying degrees of scumbaggery and some of my friends may well be classified that way. But I completely agree with Chad on this one. I have zero tolerance for child abusers and people who dabble in child pornography. None.

i found a new online buddy..jeff dude kicks ass
awesomeness will surround you my friend..
it already does what am i saying..silly chadwick

anotherclone

blackredyellow wrote:

Tough call... it's easy for us to say "call the police", but if it was my best friend, it would be a tough thing to do.

I'd also be scared that he could try to blame you, and it being your IP address and all that stuff. Maybe somehow record the confrontation so you have some sort of proof that before he can figure out how to try to pin it on you.

At the very least, (in my opinion), you have to:
1) Confront him on it
2) Protect yourself legally somehow
3) Get him out of your house NOW

no offense to you but;

4) once he's out of the house, he can continue to be a closeted pedophile. Beating off to images of children.

But, Mr. terminal velocity, you're home safe and snuggly in your bed. Sleep well, my friend. Once, the big bad is out of your house. You're conscience will be completely clear. Whew, that was a close one close. :rolleyes:

catch22

anotherclone wrote:

no offense to you but;

4) once he's out of the house, he can continue to be a closeted pedophile. Beating off to images of children.

But, Mr. 22, you're home safe and snuggly in your bed. Sleep well, my friend. Once, the big bad is out of your house. You're conscience will be completely clear. Whew, that was a close one close. :rolleyes:

huh?

Vedderlution_Baby

catch22 wrote:

huh?

I was wondering about that too.

comebackwoman

Phantom Pain wrote:

Its sick

Especially if he is in any way in some of these pictures

That takes it to a whole other level. I think the police definitely have to be notified then so the victims can be identified and given help - and to stop the abuse if it's still happening.

I agree with scb - the primary issue is the children being harmed. Definitely a difficult situation to be in, but in a situation like this I think it's very black and white. You gotta do what's gonna make it possible for you to sleep at night.

chadwick

chromiam wrote:

and as I said if that is true than proceed with the torches and burning crosses... but the OP has yet to state if it is actual children younger than 18 or what he seems to think are...

the man said "child porn"
that mean its not 18.
18 yr olds are in playboy and shit im sure of that.
or harder magz/videos.

when the OP says "child porn"
i am visualizing young girls/boys.

disgusting behavior..

he did not say 18, 19, 20 barely legal..
"child porn" is "child porn"

now, does the OP need to learn how to explain himself better?
perhaps he does..we will soon find out im sure..

either way, it's wrong to support child predator bullshit in any form.