You should absolutely turn him in. I'm sure police would be able to tell from analysing both your computers whose computer is whose. They would be able to see things like transactions made etc. It would probably be a good idea, like others have said to get some legal advice.
I think you need to forget about the friendship for now. By sparing him the treatment or punishment he is due, you may be putting children at risk - not to mention that he has supported the abuse of a lot of children by downloading so much material.
You seriously need to sucker punch this guy in the throat first thing, then call the cops..or at least confront the fucker about it..you can't just pretend nothing happened can you? Oh and of course this all applies only if it is indeed child porn not barely legal stuff which someone brought up but has yet to be addressed..
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You seriously need to sucker punch this guy in the throat first thing, then call the cops..or at least confront the fucker about it..you can't just pretend nothing happened can you? Oh and of course this all applies only if it is indeed child porn not barely legal stuff which someone brought up but has yet to be addressed..
You seriously need to sucker punch this guy in the throat first thing, then call the cops..or at least confront the fucker about it..you can't just pretend nothing happened can you? Oh and of course this all applies only if it is indeed child porn not barely legal stuff which someone brought up but has yet to be addressed..
true true. just remember.. this is your life too. and theres no way in hell you wanna go down for what your friend is doing. i knew someone who had a neighbor that was looking and distributing child porn. the FBI took him down. they were tapping his internet for months.. so you never know who's already been watching. if it were me i would get over the awkward part pronto
He's your friend, he has a big problem, and it needs to stop. For me, the main issue is the children being harmed more than you (no offense), who may or may not have been harmed (depending on whether he downloaded it while at your house).
So what is the best way to help your friend stop his problem, thereby protecting the children? That's the only question in my mind. And I don't know the answer. If going to the police is the best way to put an end this this, then do it. But if being confronted by and getting help from someone he can still think of as a friend would be more effective, then maybe that's a better solution.
Good luck. :(
i agree
in a situtation like this the children being harmed must take priority over any friendship...do whatever it takes to get him to stop immediately even if it means turning him and his computer over to the cops
I'm really sorry you have to deal with this...no one ever wants to see their friends in a bad light. I hope you can get through this--I'm sure what you saw on his compy has sickened you--and move on without this "friend" in your life.
Would you rather hug the child porn lover/possible child molester??
not saying viglantism is the solution but let's not lose sight of what is IMPORTANT here.
i'd rather see him investigated, arrested, tried, and imprisoned, or sent to get the psychological help he needs to stop this obsession and maybe learn to help others do the same.
You're not going to help him by ratting him out to the cops. That's only going to fuck up his life big time on your conscience. Depends if you think he might act on his "hobby"
Running to the authorities over everything solves nothing. It just makes the govt more intrusive in other areas as well.
Tell him you had to use his computer for a bit and found something. If he doesn't like it, or locks his computer....well....there's the door.
Also tell him to get his own internet connection by changing the wireless key, and telling him he's really lucky he's not hearing all this from behind bars. If that means he has to resort to internet cafe's or moves ...then fine... do it.
If it were me I'd probably kick him the hell out just the same regardless. Also make sure it's actually kiddy porn and not some barely legal type stuff.
Tough call.
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Would you rather hug the child porn lover/possible child molester??
not saying viglantism is the solution but let's not lose sight of what is IMPORTANT here.
What is important here is getting him to stop. If hugging him is what would get him to stop, then I would rather hug him. If turning him over to the police is what will do the trick, then do that. But has anyone actually established what's the best way to get this kind of behavior to stop?
You're not going to help him by ratting him out to the cops. That's only going to fuck up his life big time on your conscience. Depends if you think he might act on his "hobby"
Running to the authorities over everything solves nothing. It just makes the govt more intrusive in other areas as well.
Tell him you had to use his computer for a bit and found something. If he doesn't like it, or locks his computer....well....there's the door.
Also tell him to get his own internet connection by changing the wireless key, and telling him he's really lucky he's not hearing all this from behind bars. If that means he has to resort to internet cafe's or moves ...then fine... do it.
If it were me I'd probably kick him the hell out just the same regardless. Also make sure it's actually kiddy porn and not some barely legal type stuff.
Tough call.
While I agree with this post, I can't help but notice the irony that we as a society (not necessarily you) have no acceptance of porn depicting girls under 18 (and we shouldn't) but we're all over it as soon as the girl's 18th birthday comes along. There seems to me to be a possibly contradiction here. But maybe that's a subject for another thread.
I would def. get some kind of legal advice on this just to protect yourself. That would be the first thing I do. I would have to kick him out really soon too. The dude has some kind of problem for sure and maybe he can get some help, but that isn't your problem.
While I agree with this post, I can't help but notice the irony that we as a society (not necessarily you) have no acceptance of porn depicting girls under 18 (and we shouldn't) but we're all over it as soon as the girl's 18th birthday comes along. There seems to me to be a possibly contradiction here. But maybe that's a subject for another thread.
Legal age of sexual consent is 16 and 14 in a lot of places if I'm not mistaken,
...but yeah the sex trade is booming. A lot of girls opt in to make money...many are exploited. I guess once the age of consent thing is addressed. Back in the day 15, 16, 17 was a prime age to get married.
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You're not going to help him by ratting him out to the cops. That's only going to fuck up his life big time on your conscience.
there you go. there is no mention of molestation or anything like that.
ratting this guy out to the cops/feds will not stop the exploitation or abuse of minors. Like it or not the stuff is out there.
Indeed. The internet key is a good idea, but you dont want that stuff in your house period. The fact that the guy may have been engaged in a criminal activity that exposes you to potential criminal liability in the house you share with your wife is more than enough reason to confront him, express your anger and ask him to leave. Offer to get him discreet professional help if the guy has a problem.
I wouldnt turn him in, just get as far away as possible. And keep a journal of the dates of discovery, conversations, etc. should you ever be questioned by the authorities.
I don't subscribe to the theroy that peadophiles (even though, as far as I'm aware, the person in question is not a peadophile) are automatically stark raving mad, demented grotesque monsters. What they do is disgusting and I'm not trying to defend them but...if anyone has seen 'that' episode of Brass Eye then you might know what I'm getting at.
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I don't subscribe to the theroy that peadophiles (even though, as far as I'm aware, the person in question is not a peadophile) are automatically stark raving mad, demented grotesque monsters. What they do is disgusting and I'm not trying to defend them but...if anyone has seen 'that' episode of Brass Eye then you might know what I'm getting at.
i haven't, but i agree. this issue is far more insidious than we want to admit. it's easy to dismiss it by labelling these people "monsters" and saying "let's kick their ass" and not having to deal with it. but that doesn't solve the problem. the problem is much bigger and has to do with our entire culture and its refusal to talk about sex. as scb pointed out, the girl that catches a predator for chris hansen one day can have a birthday the next and we think nothing of her fucking 6 guys on camera, whereas the day before any guy who looks at her picture is a sick demented monster. it's not that simple.
there you go. there is no mention of molestation or anything like that.
ratting this guy out to the cops/feds will not stop the exploitation or abuse of minors. Like it or not the stuff is out there.
Indeed. The internet key is a good idea, but you dont want that stuff in your house period. The fact that the guy may have been engaged in a criminal activity that exposes you to potential criminal liability in the house you share with your wife is more than enough reason to confront him, express your anger and ask him to leave. Offer to get him discreet professional help if the guy has a problem.
I wouldnt turn him in, just get as far away as possible. And keep a journal of the dates of discovery, conversations, etc. should you ever be questioned by the authorities.
Agree, however now the accomplice thing might get pulled. Once you become aware I think you are legally responsible. I would definitely make a free phone call to a lawyer (from a payphone) to seek advice. Knowing about it and doing nothing (police wise) could be a serious problem now.
I would cut the computer access immediately and give him a time line to move out (couple weeks...a month) before you make "a phone call"
Basically he fucked up and put other people at considerable risk for his behavior.
Nobody's fault but his own. What a shit deal for the original poster.
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Well... if you ever worked with sexually abused children you may feel that pedophiles are demented grotesque monsters.
They fuck up the lives of innocent children in irreparably... Mentally, emotionally and physically.
Pedophiles are sick fucks.
most of them were themselves molested at children. were they monsters then? did they deserve it when they were kids? so when did they become monsters, and why? what can we do to stop it BEFORE they molest a child?
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I think you need to forget about the friendship for now. By sparing him the treatment or punishment he is due, you may be putting children at risk - not to mention that he has supported the abuse of a lot of children by downloading so much material.
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nice throat punch to his dumb ass
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true true. just remember.. this is your life too. and theres no way in hell you wanna go down for what your friend is doing. i knew someone who had a neighbor that was looking and distributing child porn. the FBI took him down. they were tapping his internet for months.. so you never know who's already been watching. if it were me i would get over the awkward part pronto
Not that it's any degree of um, better, but they are internet pictures, not of him. These are not 'barely legal' girls, for those wondering
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The people who make these images do it because people like your 'friend' want to look at them.
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sick bastard. I would NEVER look at him the same again....
call the cops. You will regret it if you don't.
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i agree
in a situtation like this the children being harmed must take priority over any friendship...do whatever it takes to get him to stop immediately even if it means turning him and his computer over to the cops
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Would you rather hug the child porn lover/possible child molester??
not saying viglantism is the solution but let's not lose sight of what is IMPORTANT here.
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i'd rather see him investigated, arrested, tried, and imprisoned, or sent to get the psychological help he needs to stop this obsession and maybe learn to help others do the same.
Running to the authorities over everything solves nothing. It just makes the govt more intrusive in other areas as well.
Tell him you had to use his computer for a bit and found something. If he doesn't like it, or locks his computer....well....there's the door.
Also tell him to get his own internet connection by changing the wireless key, and telling him he's really lucky he's not hearing all this from behind bars. If that means he has to resort to internet cafe's or moves ...then fine... do it.
If it were me I'd probably kick him the hell out just the same regardless. Also make sure it's actually kiddy porn and not some barely legal type stuff.
Tough call.
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What is important here is getting him to stop. If hugging him is what would get him to stop, then I would rather hug him. If turning him over to the police is what will do the trick, then do that. But has anyone actually established what's the best way to get this kind of behavior to stop?
While I agree with this post, I can't help but notice the irony that we as a society (not necessarily you) have no acceptance of porn depicting girls under 18 (and we shouldn't) but we're all over it as soon as the girl's 18th birthday comes along. There seems to me to be a possibly contradiction here. But maybe that's a subject for another thread.
Legal age of sexual consent is 16 and 14 in a lot of places if I'm not mistaken,
i.e http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
...but yeah the sex trade is booming. A lot of girls opt in to make money...many are exploited. I guess once the age of consent thing is addressed. Back in the day 15, 16, 17 was a prime age to get married.
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there you go. there is no mention of molestation or anything like that.
ratting this guy out to the cops/feds will not stop the exploitation or abuse of minors. Like it or not the stuff is out there.
Indeed. The internet key is a good idea, but you dont want that stuff in your house period. The fact that the guy may have been engaged in a criminal activity that exposes you to potential criminal liability in the house you share with your wife is more than enough reason to confront him, express your anger and ask him to leave. Offer to get him discreet professional help if the guy has a problem.
I wouldnt turn him in, just get as far away as possible. And keep a journal of the dates of discovery, conversations, etc. should you ever be questioned by the authorities.
I immediately thought it was kids under say 10 which is pretty F***ing sick. and demented. and grotesque. and monsterish.
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i haven't, but i agree. this issue is far more insidious than we want to admit. it's easy to dismiss it by labelling these people "monsters" and saying "let's kick their ass" and not having to deal with it. but that doesn't solve the problem. the problem is much bigger and has to do with our entire culture and its refusal to talk about sex. as scb pointed out, the girl that catches a predator for chris hansen one day can have a birthday the next and we think nothing of her fucking 6 guys on camera, whereas the day before any guy who looks at her picture is a sick demented monster. it's not that simple.
Well... if you ever worked with sexually abused children you may feel that pedophiles are demented grotesque monsters.
They fuck up the lives of innocent children in irreparably... Mentally, emotionally and physically.
Pedophiles are sick fucks.
Agree, however now the accomplice thing might get pulled. Once you become aware I think you are legally responsible. I would definitely make a free phone call to a lawyer (from a payphone) to seek advice. Knowing about it and doing nothing (police wise) could be a serious problem now.
I would cut the computer access immediately and give him a time line to move out (couple weeks...a month) before you make "a phone call"
Basically he fucked up and put other people at considerable risk for his behavior.
Nobody's fault but his own. What a shit deal for the original poster.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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most of them were themselves molested at children. were they monsters then? did they deserve it when they were kids? so when did they become monsters, and why? what can we do to stop it BEFORE they molest a child?