The AET Soccer/Football Thread

ladygooddiva

n Vergehen im strafrechtlichen Sinne ist bei dem Zwischenfall offenbar nicht begangen worden. Der HSV hat sofort nach Bekanntwerden die zuständigen Behörden informiert. Nach ersten Ermittlungen der Staatsanwaltschaft liegt kein Straftatbestand vor. Offiziell wurden die jungen Fußballer wegen "Verstoßes gegen die Hausordnung" - kein Mädchenbesuch, kein Besuch nach 22 Uhr - vor die Tür gesetzt.

Trotzdem: In den vergangenen Jahren war es immer wieder zu Disziplinlosigkeiten im HSV-Internat gekommen. So wurde der spätere Profi Eren Sen im Alter von 18 Jahren wegen einer unerlaubten Spritztour mit dem Auto eines Kollegen des Internats verwiesen. Auch in anderen Internaten von Bundesligaklubs gab es Probleme. Im vergangenen Jahr mussten sich die Verantwortlichen bei Hertha BSC mit dem Verdacht auf sexuelle Übergriffe an einer 14-Jährigen beschäftigen. Die Vorwürfe wurden später fallen gelassen.

HSV-Sportchef Dietmar Beiersdorfer verteidigte das Konzept der Jugendinternate: "Wir müssen uns für unsere Arbeit nicht verstecken." Auch Internatsleiter Hildebrandt wehrte sich gegen eine pauschale Verurteilung: "Bei uns wohnen normale Jugendliche, wie woanders auch. Über die Jahre gesehen, haben wir bestimmt nicht mehr Auffälligkeiten als in anderen Häusern." Was die 15 jungen Fußballer angeht, die im Moment im Internat wohnen, überlegt sich Hildebrandt trotzdem Konsequenzen: "Natürlich hinterfragen wir uns. Vermitteln wir den Jungs ausreichend, was es heißt, HSVer zu sein? Wie sieht es aus mit dem Thema Sexualität? Wir tabuisieren nichts - wollen die Fußballer aber auch ganz bewusst zur Eigenverantwortung erziehen."

Insgesamt investiert der HSV jährlich drei Millionen Euro in seine gesamte Nachwuchsabteilung. Dazu gehören neben dem Internat auch die Jugendmannschaften und das Team HSV II in der Regionalliga. Den direkten Durchmarsch vom Internat ins Profiteam hat noch keiner geschafft. "Aber im Profikader stehen zurzeit zwölf Akteure, die aus unserem Nachwuchsbereich kommen", sagte Hildebrandt. Dazu gehören Sascha Kirschstein und René Klingbeil, die viele Einsätze im Regionalligateam hatten. Und auch Alexander Laas und Sydney Sam, die aus der eigenen Jugend kommen. In Zukunft sollen diese Spieler für große Schlagzeilen sorgen - größere jedenfalls, als sie der Vorfall aus dem März verursacht.

Artikel erschienen am Fr, 18. August 2006

Klumpie

Well at that age you always want sex. There was nobody raped????

ladygooddiva

Klumpie wrote:

Well at that age you always want sex. There was nobody raped????

it seems so know but sexual abused is shocking enough!!!

ladygooddiva

this is the way hsv wants to get out in cottbus:

Kirschstein - Mahdavikia, Reinhardt, Demel, Klingbeil - de Jong - Jarolim, Trochowski - van der Vaart - Guerrero, Sanogo

ladygooddiva

holland conection :where are you guys?

well read now a really shocking news Boulahrouz is moving from Hsv to Chelsea
how can he come on Chelsea ...is he ...i can´t belive that !!!this is so uncool
and by the way doll is i think as a person the better coach!!!

Klumpie

ladygooddiva wrote:

holland conection :where are you guys?

well read now a really shocking news Boulahrouz is moving from Hsv to Chelsea
how can he come on Chelsea ...is he ...i can´t belive that !!!this is so uncool
and by the way doll is i think as a person the better coach!!!

Stupid choice of him, but for his bank it's a great movement

ladygooddiva

Klumpie wrote:

Stupid choice of him, but for his bank it's a great movement

yes it´s so stupid from him ...but for the bank i can understand but if this is the best choice for hid career i doubt that...and by the way he said before he wants to build up in hamburg ...what a lie ...i am still under shock why do they let him go
i can´t understand
and for our matches i see dark a bit...

Klumpie

ladygooddiva wrote:

yes it´s so stupid from him ...but for the bank i can understand but if this is the best choice for hid career i doubt that...and by the way he said before he wants to build up in hamburg ...what a lie ...i am still under shock why do they let him go
i can´t understand
and for our matches i see dark a bit...

I read only that HSV and Chelsea agreed, but Bouhlarouz didn't sign anything till now.

ladygooddiva

Klumpie wrote:

I read only that HSV and Chelsea agreed, but Bouhlarouz didn't sign anything till now.

but on the hsv forums everybody seems him to sign it
and it seems he wants it and he is not in the team in cottbus
so doll allready plan withouth him...
and we buy maybe a new player so ...

Klumpie

ladygooddiva wrote:

but on the hsv forums everybody seems him to sign it
and it seems he wants it and he is not in the team in cottbus
so doll allready plan withouth him...
and we buy maybe a new player so ...

I think he's going to sign, but I doubt if he's gonna play alot of minutes.

ladygooddiva

Klumpie wrote:

I think he's going to sign, but I doubt if he's gonna play alot of minutes.

i doubt that too but anyways he won´t be allowed to play cl if i understand that right..

ladygooddiva

that´s what fans from chelsea just droped about He is one scary looking man. Now we have a real hardman, no nonsense player in defense. What's with the Dutch players we purchase, though? They all look at least 10 years older than they actually are."

ladygooddiva

it´s official he doesn´t belong to us anymore:
Hamburg - Khalid Boulahrouz steht kurz vor einem Wechsel zum englischen Meister Chelsea London. "Wir sind uns mit dem FC Chelsea weitestgehend einig", bestätigte Sportchef Dietmar Beiersdorfer. Der niederländische Nationalspieler wird am Wochenende nach London fliegen, um sich dem Medizincheck zu unterziehen und weitere Vertragsdetails zu klären. "Wir werden zeitnah einen Nachfolger präsentieren", so Beiersdorfer. Beim Bundesligaspiel des HSV am Samstag (19.08.06) in Cottbus zählt der Verteidiger bereits nicht mehr zum Kader der Rothosen.

Pearl Juli

Inter of Porto Alegre just won the Libertadores Cup.


Great match btw. Specially after the last Sao Paulo goal, it got extremely exciting



On another note:

My team (Boca Juniors) plays against Independiente tomorrow for the Argentine league. Hope we win! hehe. And sometime...in September I believe, we'll play the Recopa against Sao Paulo. If we win, we'll become the team that won the most international titles in the World yay!

brhf9

Pearl_Juli wrote:

Inter of Porto Alegre just won the Libertadores Cup.


Great match btw. Specially after the last Sao Paulo goal, it got extremely exciting



On another note:

My team (Boca Juniors) plays against Independiente tomorrow for the Argentine league. Hope we win! hehe. And sometime...in September I believe, we'll play the Recopa against Sao Paulo. If we win, we'll become the team that won the most international titles in the World yay!

hey, do you know a player called 'emiliano dudar'? i need information about him.

thanks!

Pearl Juli

brhf9 wrote:

hey, do you know a player called 'emiliano dudar'? i need information about him.

thanks!

Nope. Never heard of him before.

I just did some research, but couldn't find much recent info about him. Most of it was stuff from 2002 and 2003.

Here's something up to date:

http://www.lanacion.com.ar/herramientas/SoloTexto/Nota.asp?nota_id=830923

"Emiliano Dudar, ex central defense of Vélez and Independiente, will travel today to Río de Janeiro along with his representantive Adrián Castellano so he can become part of Vasco da Gama."

I'm sure you knew the Vasco da Gama part, does the Velez and Independiente part help?

AND this I found on what seems to be a Brazilian forum about football, I think it's actually a Vasco da Gama forum:

link: http://www.netvasco.com.br/forum/viewthread.php?tid=10369

extract:
"Saiba mais sobre Emiliano Dudar, zagueiro que fará testes no Vasco
SUPERVASCO.COM


Nome: Emiliano Ariel Dudar (Dudar)

Posição: Zagueiro central

Idade: 24 anos

Local de nascimento: Buenos Aires (Argentina)

Altura: 1,92cm

Peso: 90kg

Clubes anteriores:
Velez Sarsfield, Banfield e Independiente, todos da Argentina, e Libertad, do Paraguai."


Hope that helps!

Pery

Pearl_Juli wrote:

My team (Boca Juniors) plays against Independiente tomorrow for the Argentine league. Hope we win! hehe. And sometime...in September I believe, we'll play the Recopa against Sao Paulo. If we win, we'll become the team that won the most international titles in the World yay!

Of course, I hope that too...we have them like SONS...hahhahhahahahaha

At least they doesn't have anymore the KUN Agüero ...(menos mal, uffff)

Pery

ladygooddiva wrote:

it´s official he doesn´t belong to us anymore:
Hamburg - Khalid Boulahrouz ...Chelsea London.... FC Chelsea ...London ...(19.08.06) ....

These are the only things I could understand in german....:D yeaaah I'm improving myself. hahhahaa

Pearl Juli

Pery wrote:

Of course, I hope that too...we have them like SONS...hahhahhahahahaha

At least they doesn't have anymore the KUN Agüero ...(menos mal, uffff)

haha! yeah good thing he doesn't play for them anymore. Either way, I'm kinda pissed off because these last 2 games have been on a Saturday, which means that I can't see them :( Fox Sports only broadcasts the main Sunday game, the rest are on TyC sports....a channel I don't have. I suppose I could listen to the radio through the web or something like that though

Pery

Pearl_Juli wrote:

haha! yeah good thing he doesn't play for them anymore. Either way, I'm kinda pissed off because these last 2 games have been on a Saturday, which means that I can't see them :( Fox Sports only broadcasts the main Sunday game, the rest are on TyC sports....a channel I don't have. I suppose I could listen to the radio through the web or something like that though

Search Radio Mitre...they've always transmitted Boca's match online.

I don't have cable so I can't see them either...but You know how is it...when Boca makes a goal, you always know because your neibourghs

"Somos la mitad + 1....somos el pueblo de carnaval..."