The 2008 New York Yankees

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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    Get_Right wrote:
    i simply said it would be a great story IF he signed for less money than he already had guaranteed- not that the rumors were for less

    ok, i obviously thought you were saying something else.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,330
    JSBE wrote:
    ok, i obviously thought you were saying something else.

    cool man

    its pretty clear to me that the normal Boras methods may not be working here

    yes he is smart, but his greed has clouded his brain in this instance
  • So,....we MAY looking at a opening roster of:

    1b. Duncan/Mentikeiwicz
    2b. Cano
    SS. Jeter
    3B. Arod
    CF. Melky
    LF. Damon
    RF. Abreu
    C. Posada
    DH. Matsui/Giambi

    P
    Wang, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy,Pettitte??
    RP
    Mo, ?,?,?,?....

    Looks practically the same to me. Except the new skip,,...
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    So,....we MAY looking at a opening roster of:

    1b. Duncan/Mentikeiwicz
    2b. Cano
    SS. Jeter
    3B. Arod
    CF. Melky
    LF. Matsui
    RF. Abreu
    C. Posada
    DH. Matsui/Giambi

    P
    Wang, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy,Pettitte??
    RP
    Mo, ?,?,?,?....

    Looks practically the same to me. Except the new skip,,...
    The man---Joe Girardi.

    what about damon? what about mussina?

    and just assuming that hughes, joba and kennedy will be anything more than average in a full year of starting is a HUGE assumption.

    and rivera and then ??? is not good, especially when all the yanks have signed for next year is farnsworth and, um, er...
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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    mike and the dog just read a formal announcement from NYY

    basically ARod contacted NYY thru a 3rd party .

    Talks are ongoing.

    NYY were asked if Boras was involved, they said " No Comment " .

    no $ or time window have been solidified, alltho it does look like hes coming back.




    i cant help thinking this was all a master plan from the beginning- publicity stunt.
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  • pjtradekingpjtradeking Posts: 4,045
    do you think its a done deal.....maybe perhaps he'd change his mind and re-sign with them.....

    Nothing is ever a done deal with this kind of thing. After reading and hearing what I have today, I may have to take that statement back. That is why I HATE agents. I think each player should negotiate there own freaking deal. I know that isnt possible, but it has just gotten out of hand. Boras sets a price, and the $ankees say "See Ya". So Boras contact all of these other clubs and realizes he is asking too much, and A-Rod gets mad and starts to do the deal on his own. I can just hear him now.

    " Hola Mr. Hank...UMMM I ALWAYS wanted to stay, but my agent said you werent interested in me. Here is what I am willing to play for..."

    Even if he did take $275 or whatever the figure may be...It is still too much for ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE imho.
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  • I was really starting to look forward to not having him around next year.

    The fact that Seattle and Texas both improved dramatically the year after he left.

    The 2 draft picks the Yankees would have got from whatever team he signed with.

    The fact that the circus would have left town.

    The fact that they told him: opt out and it's over. Nevermind that he came back hat in hand, groveling, fact is they said they wouldn't negotiate, and now they're negotiating.

    The only way I'm okay with this is if they sign him for significantly less than they offered him 3 weeks ago. The rumor was they offered him $140 million on top of the $81 mil he was owed, or $231 million over 8 years. So if they sign him for $180 Million over 8 years, I'm kind of okay with it. If the rumored 10 yr/$270 mil is accurate, then I'm disappointed in Cashman and the Steinbrothers
  • those players must be bringing something to mlb in order to get that kind of money....



    does anyone know what that is and how much its value is?


    :)
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    apparently rivera wants a 4 year deal from the yanks.

    http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7450914

    i am just keeping my fingers crossed that the steinbrothers are dumb enough to do that.
  • yay...a-rod's back:)


    NEW YORK (AP) - Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees have agreed to the outline of a $275 million, 10-year contract, a deal that potentially would allow him to earn millions more if he sets the career home-run record.

    The amount of the guaranteed money was revealed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been finalized. A-Rod met Wednesday in Tampa, Fla., with the Steinbrenner brothers but the parameters of the deal were set in place last weekend.
    "Yeah, I could say that," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said. "The meeting was a final get-together. He wanted to make sure myself and my brother knew that he was sincere and serious."

    The Yankees still must draft the agreement with Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras.
  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    yay...a-rod's back:)


    NEW YORK (AP) - Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees have agreed to the outline of a $275 million, 10-year contract, a deal that potentially would allow him to earn millions more if he sets the career home-run record.

    The amount of the guaranteed money was revealed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been finalized. A-Rod met Wednesday in Tampa, Fla., with the Steinbrenner brothers but the parameters of the deal were set in place last weekend.
    "Yeah, I could say that," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said. "The meeting was a final get-together. He wanted to make sure myself and my brother knew that he was sincere and serious."

    The Yankees still must draft the agreement with Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras.

    Yay?
    I could not be more bummed out about this. I think it's horrible.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    as of right now, the 08 yanks are in worse shape than the 07 yanks.

    the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.

    their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.

    the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.

    and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
  • JSBE wrote:
    as of right now, the 08 yanks are in worse shape than the 07 yanks.

    the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.

    their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.

    the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.

    and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
    no worries, its still early. everyone truly believe Mo will sign. Then they can foucs on other pitching. To me the best past of A-rod resigning is now they can use their trade chips to potentially go after pitching.
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  • They need pitchers real bad even last year their lineup was never strong...I'm surprised they even got into the post season with the pitchingthey had.....and I never thought proctor and farnsworth were ever any good....when ever they came in to relief .... I was never excited about them coming up ...I always figured they would just mess up......

    JSBE wrote:
    as of right now, the 08 yanks are in worse shape than the 07 yanks.

    the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.

    their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.

    the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.

    and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
  • How pathetic. For years I've defended The Yankees against the charge that the Yes Network was state run television.

    http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spmedia175465007nov17,0,6334079.story

    Tom Verducci no longer will appear on YES' "Yankees Hot Stove" show, on which he had been an analyst the previous four years.

    The reason? A column he wrote last month on SI.com strongly criticizing Yankees management in the wake of Joe Torre's departure. (The team is a part owner of the network.)

    YES spokesman Eric Handler said Verducci's "recent remarks pertaining to the Yankees' ownership were extremely personal and cutting, and we decided it would not be in our interests to have him on the show going forward ... We appreciate the work he's done for us in the past."



    So you can be on the show, but only if you have nothing but nice things to say about Randy Levine? I will be contacting the Yes Network to let them know that I will no longer be watching this show.
  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    His Mama came out defending her boy on the cover of the Daily News

    :eek: I hope it's not true
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,066
    Allie wrote:
    His Mama came out defending her boy on the cover of the Daily News

    :eek: I hope it's not true

    now we need a shortstop. Guess Alex could move there. Nothing's gonna happen if he pays up.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
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  • Allie wrote:
    His Mama came out defending her boy on the cover of the Daily News

    :eek: I hope it's not true

    It's not like he's sitting at home on April 14th using Quicken to get his taxes done on time. He's probably got Mr. Burns flock of accountants and blue haired lawyers working on this year round.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,308
    i hope he placed a call to lionel hutz..
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    rivera is accepting the deal.

    "We've got everybody back," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Monday. "It's good to have both Jorgie and him back."

    what about andy pettitte? attaboy hank...d'oh!
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    JSBE wrote:
    rivera is accepting the deal.

    "We've got everybody back," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Monday. "It's good to have both Jorgie and him back."

    what about andy pettitte? attaboy hank...d'oh!

    Rivera is great but at some point he has to start a downward slide. I hear he's about to be the highest paid reliever ever. What will be the total salary for the Yankees in 08'?

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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    using the average salary of the new deals signed by (or to be signed by) a-rod, posada and rivera...

    Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
    Jason Giambi $21,000,000
    Derek Jeter $21,600,000
    Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
    Johnny Damon $13,000,000
    Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
    Jorge Posada $13,100,000
    Mike Mussina $11,070,423
    Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
    Carl Pavano $10,000,000
    Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
    Kei Igawa $4,000,000

    that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.

    that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.

    if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.
  • There's talk that they plan to outright release Pavano, as he's clogging upp a spot on the 40 man roster, and they don't want to lose someone via the Rule 5 draft because they reserved a spot for American Idle
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    There's talk that they plan to outright release Pavano, as he's clogging upp a spot on the 40 man roster, and they don't want to lose someone via the Rule 5 draft because they reserved a spot for American Idle

    i heard that too and it makes total sense. there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him when the yanks have the cash to just release him and pay him.
  • JSBE wrote:
    using the average salary of the new deals signed by (or to be signed by) a-rod, posada and rivera...

    Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
    Jason Giambi $21,000,000
    Derek Jeter $21,600,000
    Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
    Johnny Damon $13,000,000
    Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
    Jorge Posada $13,100,000
    Mike Mussina $11,070,423
    Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
    Carl Pavano $10,000,000
    Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
    Kei Igawa $4,000,000

    that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.

    that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.

    if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.



    What a bunch of overpaid babies. Doctors trying to cure cancer and AIDS should get that money. Not a bunch over priced over rated baseball players.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,066
    What a bunch of overpaid babies. Doctors trying to cure cancer and AIDS should get that money. Not a bunch over priced over rated baseball players.

    buy tickets and watch them do research.
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  • JSBE wrote:
    using the average salary of the new deals signed by (or to be signed by) a-rod, posada and rivera...

    Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
    Jason Giambi $21,000,000
    Derek Jeter $21,600,000
    Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
    Johnny Damon $13,000,000
    Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
    Jorge Posada $13,100,000
    Mike Mussina $11,070,423
    Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
    Carl Pavano $10,000,000
    Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
    Kei Igawa $4,000,000

    that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.

    that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.

    if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.


    they need to get rid of carl, kyle and kei...imo
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