do you think its a done deal.....maybe perhaps he'd change his mind and re-sign with them.....
Nothing is ever a done deal with this kind of thing. After reading and hearing what I have today, I may have to take that statement back. That is why I HATE agents. I think each player should negotiate there own freaking deal. I know that isnt possible, but it has just gotten out of hand. Boras sets a price, and the $ankees say "See Ya". So Boras contact all of these other clubs and realizes he is asking too much, and A-Rod gets mad and starts to do the deal on his own. I can just hear him now.
" Hola Mr. Hank...UMMM I ALWAYS wanted to stay, but my agent said you werent interested in me. Here is what I am willing to play for..."
Even if he did take $275 or whatever the figure may be...It is still too much for ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE imho.
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I was really starting to look forward to not having him around next year.
The fact that Seattle and Texas both improved dramatically the year after he left.
The 2 draft picks the Yankees would have got from whatever team he signed with.
The fact that the circus would have left town.
The fact that they told him: opt out and it's over. Nevermind that he came back hat in hand, groveling, fact is they said they wouldn't negotiate, and now they're negotiating.
The only way I'm okay with this is if they sign him for significantly less than they offered him 3 weeks ago. The rumor was they offered him $140 million on top of the $81 mil he was owed, or $231 million over 8 years. So if they sign him for $180 Million over 8 years, I'm kind of okay with it. If the rumored 10 yr/$270 mil is accurate, then I'm disappointed in Cashman and the Steinbrothers
NEW YORK (AP) - Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees have agreed to the outline of a $275 million, 10-year contract, a deal that potentially would allow him to earn millions more if he sets the career home-run record.
The amount of the guaranteed money was revealed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been finalized. A-Rod met Wednesday in Tampa, Fla., with the Steinbrenner brothers but the parameters of the deal were set in place last weekend.
"Yeah, I could say that," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said. "The meeting was a final get-together. He wanted to make sure myself and my brother knew that he was sincere and serious."
The Yankees still must draft the agreement with Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras.
NEW YORK (AP) - Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees have agreed to the outline of a $275 million, 10-year contract, a deal that potentially would allow him to earn millions more if he sets the career home-run record.
The amount of the guaranteed money was revealed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been finalized. A-Rod met Wednesday in Tampa, Fla., with the Steinbrenner brothers but the parameters of the deal were set in place last weekend.
"Yeah, I could say that," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said. "The meeting was a final get-together. He wanted to make sure myself and my brother knew that he was sincere and serious."
The Yankees still must draft the agreement with Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras.
Yay?
I could not be more bummed out about this. I think it's horrible.
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as of right now, the 08 yanks are in worse shape than the 07 yanks.
the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.
their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.
the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.
and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
as of right now, the 08 yanks are in worse shape than the 07 yanks.
the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.
their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.
the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.
and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
no worries, its still early. everyone truly believe Mo will sign. Then they can foucs on other pitching. To me the best past of A-rod resigning is now they can use their trade chips to potentially go after pitching.
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They need pitchers real bad even last year their lineup was never strong...I'm surprised they even got into the post season with the pitchingthey had.....and I never thought proctor and farnsworth were ever any good....when ever they came in to relief .... I was never excited about them coming up ...I always figured they would just mess up......
as of right now, the 08 yanks are in worse shape than the 07 yanks.
the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.
their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.
the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.
and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
Tom Verducci no longer will appear on YES' "Yankees Hot Stove" show, on which he had been an analyst the previous four years.
The reason? A column he wrote last month on SI.com strongly criticizing Yankees management in the wake of Joe Torre's departure. (The team is a part owner of the network.)
YES spokesman Eric Handler said Verducci's "recent remarks pertaining to the Yankees' ownership were extremely personal and cutting, and we decided it would not be in our interests to have him on the show going forward ... We appreciate the work he's done for us in the past."
So you can be on the show, but only if you have nothing but nice things to say about Randy Levine? I will be contacting the Yes Network to let them know that I will no longer be watching this show.
His Mama came out defending her boy on the cover of the Daily News
:eek: I hope it's not true
It's not like he's sitting at home on April 14th using Quicken to get his taxes done on time. He's probably got Mr. Burns flock of accountants and blue haired lawyers working on this year round.
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"We've got everybody back," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Monday. "It's good to have both Jorgie and him back."
what about andy pettitte? attaboy hank...d'oh!
Rivera is great but at some point he has to start a downward slide. I hear he's about to be the highest paid reliever ever. What will be the total salary for the Yankees in 08'?
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using the average salary of the new deals signed by (or to be signed by) a-rod, posada and rivera...
Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
Jason Giambi $21,000,000
Derek Jeter $21,600,000
Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Jorge Posada $13,100,000
Mike Mussina $11,070,423
Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
Carl Pavano $10,000,000
Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
Kei Igawa $4,000,000
that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.
that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.
if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.
There's talk that they plan to outright release Pavano, as he's clogging upp a spot on the 40 man roster, and they don't want to lose someone via the Rule 5 draft because they reserved a spot for American Idle
There's talk that they plan to outright release Pavano, as he's clogging upp a spot on the 40 man roster, and they don't want to lose someone via the Rule 5 draft because they reserved a spot for American Idle
i heard that too and it makes total sense. there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him when the yanks have the cash to just release him and pay him.
using the average salary of the new deals signed by (or to be signed by) a-rod, posada and rivera...
Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
Jason Giambi $21,000,000
Derek Jeter $21,600,000
Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Jorge Posada $13,100,000
Mike Mussina $11,070,423
Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
Carl Pavano $10,000,000
Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
Kei Igawa $4,000,000
that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.
that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.
if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.
What a bunch of overpaid babies. Doctors trying to cure cancer and AIDS should get that money. Not a bunch over priced over rated baseball players.
Girardi’s coaching staff includes three members of the Yankees’ 2007 Major League coaching staff. Those returning are hitting coach Kevin Long, first base coach Tony Pena and Rob Thomson, who moves from major league field coordinator to bench coach. New to the Yankees’ Major League staff are two former Yankees players, pitching coach Dave Eiland and third base coach Bobby Meacham, along with bullpen coach Mike Harkey.
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Things happen in the game. Nothing you
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using the average salary of the new deals signed by (or to be signed by) a-rod, posada and rivera...
Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
Jason Giambi $21,000,000
Derek Jeter $21,600,000
Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Jorge Posada $13,100,000
Mike Mussina $11,070,423
Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
Carl Pavano $10,000,000
Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
Kei Igawa $4,000,000
that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.
that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.
if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.
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ok, i obviously thought you were saying something else.
cool man
its pretty clear to me that the normal Boras methods may not be working here
yes he is smart, but his greed has clouded his brain in this instance
1b. Duncan/Mentikeiwicz
2b. Cano
SS. Jeter
3B. Arod
CF. Melky
LF. Damon
RF. Abreu
C. Posada
DH. Matsui/Giambi
P
Wang, Hughes, Joba, Kennedy,Pettitte??
RP
Mo, ?,?,?,?....
Looks practically the same to me. Except the new skip,,...
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what about damon? what about mussina?
and just assuming that hughes, joba and kennedy will be anything more than average in a full year of starting is a HUGE assumption.
and rivera and then ??? is not good, especially when all the yanks have signed for next year is farnsworth and, um, er...
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basically ARod contacted NYY thru a 3rd party .
Talks are ongoing.
NYY were asked if Boras was involved, they said " No Comment " .
no $ or time window have been solidified, alltho it does look like hes coming back.
i cant help thinking this was all a master plan from the beginning- publicity stunt.
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Nothing is ever a done deal with this kind of thing. After reading and hearing what I have today, I may have to take that statement back. That is why I HATE agents. I think each player should negotiate there own freaking deal. I know that isnt possible, but it has just gotten out of hand. Boras sets a price, and the $ankees say "See Ya". So Boras contact all of these other clubs and realizes he is asking too much, and A-Rod gets mad and starts to do the deal on his own. I can just hear him now.
" Hola Mr. Hank...UMMM I ALWAYS wanted to stay, but my agent said you werent interested in me. Here is what I am willing to play for..."
Even if he did take $275 or whatever the figure may be...It is still too much for ANYONE ANYTIME ANYWHERE imho.
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The fact that Seattle and Texas both improved dramatically the year after he left.
The 2 draft picks the Yankees would have got from whatever team he signed with.
The fact that the circus would have left town.
The fact that they told him: opt out and it's over. Nevermind that he came back hat in hand, groveling, fact is they said they wouldn't negotiate, and now they're negotiating.
The only way I'm okay with this is if they sign him for significantly less than they offered him 3 weeks ago. The rumor was they offered him $140 million on top of the $81 mil he was owed, or $231 million over 8 years. So if they sign him for $180 Million over 8 years, I'm kind of okay with it. If the rumored 10 yr/$270 mil is accurate, then I'm disappointed in Cashman and the Steinbrothers
does anyone know what that is and how much its value is?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7450914
i am just keeping my fingers crossed that the steinbrothers are dumb enough to do that.
NEW YORK (AP) - Alex Rodriguez and the New York Yankees have agreed to the outline of a $275 million, 10-year contract, a deal that potentially would allow him to earn millions more if he sets the career home-run record.
The amount of the guaranteed money was revealed by a person familiar with the negotiations who spoke Thursday on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been finalized. A-Rod met Wednesday in Tampa, Fla., with the Steinbrenner brothers but the parameters of the deal were set in place last weekend.
"Yeah, I could say that," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said. "The meeting was a final get-together. He wanted to make sure myself and my brother knew that he was sincere and serious."
The Yankees still must draft the agreement with Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras.
Yay?
I could not be more bummed out about this. I think it's horrible.
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6/25/08
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and Metsy!
the 08 yanks do not have rivera or vizcaino signed, so their bullpen is in worse shape. they traded away proctor and his inning eating arm to the dodgers. they still have farnsworth. what happens if rivera leaves? does that bump joba back to the pen? if so, who takes his spot in the rotation? igawa? eek.
their starting rotation is without pettitte, although that could change. no roger. if pettitte doesn't come back the starting rotation would be wang, mussina, hughes, kennedy and joba. three rookies (i still consider hughes a rookie) in a starting rotation for a team with a payroll close to $200mil isn't the best thing. to even think about trading for johan santana will cost the yanks probably some package of cano, hughes/joba/kennedy and another prospect.
the offense is still the same, another year old, another year with excess in the OF and at 1st/DH.
and to top it off, the a-rod deal is going to cost them even more in luxury tax payroll. the yanks have to be paying 40% at this point.
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http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/ny-spmedia175465007nov17,0,6334079.story
Tom Verducci no longer will appear on YES' "Yankees Hot Stove" show, on which he had been an analyst the previous four years.
The reason? A column he wrote last month on SI.com strongly criticizing Yankees management in the wake of Joe Torre's departure. (The team is a part owner of the network.)
YES spokesman Eric Handler said Verducci's "recent remarks pertaining to the Yankees' ownership were extremely personal and cutting, and we decided it would not be in our interests to have him on the show going forward ... We appreciate the work he's done for us in the past."
So you can be on the show, but only if you have nothing but nice things to say about Randy Levine? I will be contacting the Yes Network to let them know that I will no longer be watching this show.
:eek: I hope it's not true
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now we need a shortstop. Guess Alex could move there. Nothing's gonna happen if he pays up.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11172007/sports/mariano_rivera_expected_to_take_the_yank_77957.htm
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It's not like he's sitting at home on April 14th using Quicken to get his taxes done on time. He's probably got Mr. Burns flock of accountants and blue haired lawyers working on this year round.
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"We've got everybody back," Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner said Monday. "It's good to have both Jorgie and him back."
what about andy pettitte? attaboy hank...d'oh!
Rivera is great but at some point he has to start a downward slide. I hear he's about to be the highest paid reliever ever. What will be the total salary for the Yankees in 08'?
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Alex Rodriguez $27,500,000
Jason Giambi $21,000,000
Derek Jeter $21,600,000
Bobby Abreu $16,000,000
Johnny Damon $13,000,000
Hideki Matsui $13,000,000
Jorge Posada $13,100,000
Mike Mussina $11,070,423
Mariano Rivera $15,000,000
Carl Pavano $10,000,000
Kyle Farnsworth $5,666,667
Kei Igawa $4,000,000
that's roughly a total of $170,937,090.
that's for 12 players - one (pavano) who will probably not throw a pitch and another (igawa) that will probably be in the minors. obviously the salaries of cano, hughes, joba, kennedy, melky, duncan, wang, betemit, etc will all likely be under $1mil each.
if pettitte comes back or they make any sort of bullpen free agent signing the payroll will be pushing (if not over) $200mil again. thankfully giambi and pavano and i think mussina are all off the books after 2008.
i heard that too and it makes total sense. there is no reason to waste a roster spot on him when the yanks have the cash to just release him and pay him.
What a bunch of overpaid babies. Doctors trying to cure cancer and AIDS should get that money. Not a bunch over priced over rated baseball players.
Girardi’s coaching staff includes three members of the Yankees’ 2007 Major League coaching staff. Those returning are hitting coach Kevin Long, first base coach Tony Pena and Rob Thomson, who moves from major league field coordinator to bench coach. New to the Yankees’ Major League staff are two former Yankees players, pitching coach Dave Eiland and third base coach Bobby Meacham, along with bullpen coach Mike Harkey.
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Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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they need to get rid of carl, kyle and kei...imo