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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
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  • frank coztansa
    frank coztansa Posts: 196
    roger clemens is the most pompous asshole in baseball today (outside of chris berman). he should have been ready to go on april 1 like every other pitcher. he's a piece of shit and i hope he gets hurt before he even takes the bump for the yanks.
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  • Bathgate66
    Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    frank coztansa wrote:
    roger clemens is the most pompous asshole in baseball today (outside of chris berman). he should have been ready to go on april 1 like every other pitcher. he's a piece of shit and i hope he gets hurt before he even takes the bump for the yanks.


    he needs time for the steroids to leave out of his bloodstream,..


    everyone knows that


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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    culot4 wrote:
    Ca-Ching....28 million is what it took to get him out of Texas. That is just obscene, even by Yankee standards.

    28 MILLION! Holy Christmas trees! He's not even working the whole season! Wow! Damn.

    That's a lot of $. Must be nice.

    I hope his hamstring doesn't break! D'oh. I'm excited though, I hope he does well. It was good to see him out there today. I mean I'm not his biggest fan, but gosh, anybody that can help us out...looks good to me :)
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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    Allie02 wrote:
    28 MILLION! Holy Christmas trees! He's not even working the whole season! Wow! Damn.

    He won't get 28 mill, that's the equivalent of what he would make if he did play the whole season. I think it'll be closer to 18-19.
  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    AstroFan wrote:
    He won't get 28 mill, that's the equivalent of what he would make if he did play the whole season. I think it'll be closer to 18-19.
    That's still too much money for 1 year. He's not that good any more. They're paying his reputation. He's unproven. If we don't win the World Series this will look like a retarded move.
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,983
    Allie02 wrote:
    That's still too much money for 1 year. He's not that good any more. They're paying his reputation. He's unproven. If we don't win the World Series this will look like a retarded move.

    It's called desperation. And from a Red Sox fan's perspective, it kind of puts a smile to my face. The Yankees are desperate. Let them have their one ace. We've already got two of them.
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    It's called desperation. And from a Red Sox fan's perspective, it kind of puts a smile to my face. The Yankees are desperate. Let them have their one ace. We've already got two of them.

    <yawn>
    Y'all will fall apart by August, no worries :)
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  • 1STmammal2wearPants
    1STmammal2wearPants Worcester, MA Posts: 2,983
    Allie02 wrote:
    <yawn>
    Y'all will fall apart by August, no worries :)

    You guys have already fallen apart (literally health-wise) by May. We're lookin quite good right now. :)
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  • culot4
    culot4 Posts: 775
    Is Clemens going to be part of the team or is he just going to fly in when its his day to pitch, and skip any road series where he isn't a projected starter. The Yanks could have payed that same kind of money to a guy like Barry Zito and gotten 200+ innings out of him a season without the special treatment which is bound to create resentment if the Yankees are still struggling. Whatever fills the seats I guess.
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    culot4 wrote:
    Is Clemens going to be part of the team or is he just going to fly in when its his day to pitch, and skip any road series where he isn't a projected starter. The Yanks could have payed that same kind of money to a guy like Barry Zito and gotten 200+ innings out of him a season without the special treatment which is bound to create resentment if the Yankees are still struggling. Whatever fills the seats I guess.

    They said he would have the same clause in his contract regarding travel as he did last year with Houston, but he also said that Derek and Andy and them kept hocking him to come up to the team, so I don't know if it will create resentment.

    I agree about paying that money to someone younger and more reliable, I am honestly shocked at the $ they are paying him.
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    1STmammal2wearPants wrote:
    You guys have already fallen apart (literally health-wise) by May. We're lookin quite good right now. :)

    Schilling is the same age as Clemens, isn't he? <yawn> Talk to me about all this later in the season, don't count us out yet!!
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  • AstroFan
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    Allie02 wrote:
    That's still too much money for 1 year. He's not that good any more. They're paying his reputation. He's unproven. If we don't win the World Series this will look like a retarded move.

    His ERA in the last 2 years has been 1.87 and 2.30. If he performs as good as he did last year(which isn't guaranteed of course, but this isn't a washed up pitcher), 1/2 season of Clemens may be almost as good as 1 full season from Wang.

    But if you would like to keep throwing out people like Carl Pavano, I would be all for it. ;)
  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    AstroFan wrote:
    His ERA in the last 2 years has been 1.87 and 2.30. If he performs as good as he did last year(which isn't guaranteed of course, but this isn't a washed up pitcher), 1/2 season of Clemens may be almost as good as 1 full season from Wang.

    But if you would like to keep throwing out people like Carl Pavano, I would be all for it. ;)

    eh..
    but they're going on his word that he's still fit, ya know? Only time will tell.

    Wang almost pitched a perfect game yesterday though..he's coming around. That Igawa deal is looking like a big bust.

    Pavano can't throw a paper airplane, he's being evaluated by Dr Andrews and the 'rumour' is that he probably needs Tommy John Surgery! D'oh. How come he still gets paid when he has pitched like, 2 games in 2 years? I don't understand that :/
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  • culot4
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    You can have Jaret Wright back too....We don't expect a whole lot here in Baltimore out of our O's, but that guy has looked like total shit.
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  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    culot4 wrote:
    You can have Jaret Wright back too....We don't expect a whole lot here in Baltimore out of our O's, but that guy has looked like total shit.
    LOL :)
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  • AstroFan
    AstroFan Posts: 193
    icarus wrote:
    not possible. his last 5 seasons in the AL, his ERA averaged above 4.00. even if he performs as good as the last two seasons his ERA still won't be below 3.00.

    I wouldn't go as far as saying it's not possible, but I already went over it on the other page.

    In any case, the best pitcher of this generation(and the last generation, and the one before that :p) is far from 'unproven'.



    (I'm still expecting the Red Sox to win the division...)
  • BetterManningNYG
    BetterManningNYG Posts: 777
    culot4 wrote:
    You can have Jaret Wright back too....We don't expect a whole lot here in Baltimore out of our O's, but that guy has looked like total shit.

    have you tried putting him on ebay?
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    BetterManningNYG wrote:
    you probably shouldn't bring up matsuzaka in an argument about how the yankees are spending too much on pitching.

    so 6 years and $52 mil for matsuzaka's SALARY is too much? so that's how much less per year than the yanks wasted on pavano?

    i really don't want to hear about the posting fee because that went to the seibu lions and was a one time, non-salary cap fee...no one seems to bring up the $26mil the yanks blew for igawa...
  • Allie
    Allie Posts: 2,908
    JSBE wrote:
    ...no one seems to bring up the $26mil the yanks blew for igawa...

    I did, read the thread :)
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