see, I can't speak for "the church" as a whole. That would be presumptuous.
I have just seen a lot of people look down on others for living life ways that are not really good ways instead of trying to love those people and maybe really showing them what Jesus would look like if that is what we are trying to live our lives like.
There are many good Christians who attend all sorts of churches and if their life is truly showing an example of Christ's love, then they are doing what is right in that regard. Going to a certain church doesn't make you more in touch with Jesus. Being "saved" doesn't make you closer to Him either. I believe our hearts and our attitudes are what make us truly believers or not. And while Jesus got mad in the righteous anger ways, the ways that we should get mad when some innocent person gets beat up, raped, murdered, abused, or when some priest molests a young boy while hiding behind the cloth, I do not believe that He ever got mad just because people did not agree with Him. Even the pharisees who pushed His buttons big time were responded to calmly when they tried to corner Him in His responses.
And while some would think this is disrespectful, I think in His mind he was thinking "assholes", only in Biblical words.
sorry I love Jesus and respect Him 100% but I think we have done to Him what we do to other "stars" in our lives and idealize them beyond belief.
(I can almost feel the eggs getting thrown at me now........)
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Just live and let live. If your friend is happy then you should be happy for him. Different strokes for different folks. Atheism can be its own form of brainwashing.
Please Explain this too me....is there such a thing of thinking to logically???
And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
Don't you just want to punch him in the fucking throat? Brainwashing is alive and well.
When people start talking brainwashing, oh fuck, I mean religion (I seriously didn't do that on purpose it's just how my fingers were typing. Usually I'd backspace and start over, but I found it interesting.) Anywho - I find myself feeling and I'm a little :mad: inside. I try not to :rolleyes: and just , nod and go back to doing my business.
Unless of course I have the time and it's the right place for a debate - then, Game On.
Walking can be a real trip
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"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
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Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
see, I can't speak for "the church" as a whole. That would be presumptuous.
I have just seen a lot of people look down on others for living life ways that are not really good ways instead of trying to love those people and maybe really showing them what Jesus would look like if that is what we are trying to live our lives like.
There are many good Christians who attend all sorts of churches and if their life is truly showing an example of Christ's love, then they are doing what is right in that regard. Going to a certain church doesn't make you more in touch with Jesus. Being "saved" doesn't make you closer to Him either. I believe our hearts and our attitudes are what make us truly believers or not. And while Jesus got mad in the righteous anger ways, the ways that we should get mad when some innocent person gets beat up, raped, murdered, abused, or when some priest molests a young boy while hiding behind the cloth, I do not believe that He ever got mad just because people did not agree with Him. Even the pharisees who pushed His buttons big time were responded to calmly when they tried to corner Him in His responses.
And while some would think this is disrespectful, I think in His mind he was thinking "assholes", only in Biblical words.
sorry I love Jesus and respect Him 100% but I think we have done to Him what we do to other "stars" in our lives and idealize them beyond belief.
(I can almost feel the eggs getting thrown at me now........)
Im just sick of the whole being gay is a sin thing. I also dont like the sex before marriage rule.
Alpine Valley 2000
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
I have just seen a lot of people look down on others for living life ways that are not really good ways instead of trying to love those people and maybe really showing them what Jesus would look like if that is what we are trying to live our lives like.
It's cool that you want to show love to these people, however, what do you mean with "not really good ways"?
dont insult me by calling me an atheist. I am nothing. Completely indifferent.
Completely indifferent? And you want to punch your friend in the throat for believing in something? Sounds like someone isn't calling what it is what it REALLY is... denial can be its own form of brainwashing.
I have nothing against people worshiping/believing whatever they want, but it is very annoying when you have to hear someone go on and on about this new thing they discovered called Jesus Christ and how they hope you'll give him a chance, too.
I don't see the problem... when I discovered PJ I thought 'everyone should listen to this' and the odd time I try to force it down somebody's throat... same when I discovered adventure books, I don't understand why people don't TRY them . If you find something that changes your life you'd think everybody should do it too. It's human nature probably.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Just live and let live. If your friend is happy then you should be happy for him. Different strokes for different folks. Atheism can be its own form of brainwashing.
Agreed... if a 'way', any 'way', works for you, you think it's the right way. I've seen enough of people of ALL kinds of religions and non religions trying to force their views down peoples throats.. in fact, I was more likely to do it when I had no belief so I'd like to THINK I don't do the same... if you've found something that makes you happy, whether it's believing or not believing... well good for you. For fuck sake, I even pretended to be interested in what the mormons had to say just so I could let them think they're doing some good. There's no harm in it. You have to see that they want good for you... it's not like they're wishing you harm.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I don't see the problem... when I discovered PJ I thought 'everyone should listen to this' and the odd time I try to force it down somebody's throat... same when I discovered adventure books, I don't understand why people don't TRY them . If you find something that changes your life you'd think everybody should do it too. It's human nature probably.
On a related note, it's no less annoying to hear someone trying to force you to not try it than it is to hear the opposite.
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Scientology part 2?
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
Nah, I don't want some jackass like Tom Cruise following me around. Now, Scarlett Johansson ....
Come on, you could call it "Kabollocks".
see, I can't speak for "the church" as a whole. That would be presumptuous.
I have just seen a lot of people look down on others for living life ways that are not really good ways instead of trying to love those people and maybe really showing them what Jesus would look like if that is what we are trying to live our lives like.
There are many good Christians who attend all sorts of churches and if their life is truly showing an example of Christ's love, then they are doing what is right in that regard. Going to a certain church doesn't make you more in touch with Jesus. Being "saved" doesn't make you closer to Him either. I believe our hearts and our attitudes are what make us truly believers or not. And while Jesus got mad in the righteous anger ways, the ways that we should get mad when some innocent person gets beat up, raped, murdered, abused, or when some priest molests a young boy while hiding behind the cloth, I do not believe that He ever got mad just because people did not agree with Him. Even the pharisees who pushed His buttons big time were responded to calmly when they tried to corner Him in His responses.
And while some would think this is disrespectful, I think in His mind he was thinking "assholes", only in Biblical words.
sorry I love Jesus and respect Him 100% but I think we have done to Him what we do to other "stars" in our lives and idealize them beyond belief.
(I can almost feel the eggs getting thrown at me now........)
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
eggs? havent you read the responses of the crowd your dealing with here? not exactly jesus fanatics
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Slap him and say "snap out of it"!!! Brainwashing......what assholes!!
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
Please Explain this too me....is there such a thing of thinking to logically???
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."
OH MY that's PERFECT!!!
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Thankies. I've thought long and hard about different ways of poking fun at religion, and that was as highbrow as I got.
When people start talking brainwashing, oh fuck, I mean religion (I seriously didn't do that on purpose it's just how my fingers were typing. Usually I'd backspace and start over, but I found it interesting.) Anywho - I find myself feeling and I'm a little :mad: inside. I try not to :rolleyes: and just , nod and go back to doing my business.
Unless of course I have the time and it's the right place for a debate - then, Game On.
***********************
"We've laid the groundwork. It's like planting the seeds. And next year, it's spring." - Nader
***********************
Prepare for tending to your garden, America.
Well I think it's the perfect name for a Fins headed religion.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Im just sick of the whole being gay is a sin thing. I also dont like the sex before marriage rule.
Summerfest 2006
"Why would they come to our concert just to boo us?" -Lisa Simpson
It's cool that you want to show love to these people, however, what do you mean with "not really good ways"?
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Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
Completely indifferent? And you want to punch your friend in the throat for believing in something? Sounds like someone isn't calling what it is what it REALLY is... denial can be its own form of brainwashing.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
I don't wanna think, I wanna feel
Dublin 23/08/06 Lisbon I 04/09/06 Lisbon II 05/09/06 Paris 11/09/06 Verona 16/09/06
London 18/06/07 Dusseldorf 21/06/07 Copenhagen 26/06/07 Nijmegen 28/06/07
I don't wanna think, I wanna feel
Dublin 23/08/06 Lisbon I 04/09/06 Lisbon II 05/09/06 Paris 11/09/06 Verona 16/09/06
London 18/06/07 Dusseldorf 21/06/07 Copenhagen 26/06/07 Nijmegen 28/06/07
i apologise. i really should pay more attention. guess i should edit that post then. again my apologies.
thanks dave.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
The difference between long red and I is that he's indifference and I'm non-religious.
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
how is it an insult to be called an atheist?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Sir Mike McCready is....THE MASTER!!! WAHHH!!!
EVENFLOW PSYCHOS H.N.I.C~FEEL THE FLOW!!!
"Pearl Jam fans are obsessed, they'd see the boys in HELL if tickets were sold."-CROJAM95
It takes balls to put out a UKE album!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you