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orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
edited June 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
Don't you just want to punch him in the fucking throat? Brainwashing is alive and well.
Jam out with your clam out.
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  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    well everyone is entitled to their own opinion and way of life...



    although i can hook you up with some jesus posters from the video shop i work in, courtesy of my new super catholic boss...
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    long red wrote:
    Don't you just want to punch him in the fucking throat? Brainwashing is alive and well.

    I thought of the same thing, when the exact same thing happened to the President George W Bush.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    long red wrote:
    Don't you just want to punch him in the fucking throat? Brainwashing is alive and well.

    I have nothing against people worshiping/believing whatever they want, but it is very annoying when you have to hear someone go on and on about this new thing they discovered called Jesus Christ and how they hope you'll give him a chance, too. :D
  • haffajappahaffajappa British Columbia Posts: 5,955
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    I have nothing against people worshiping/believing whatever they want, but it is very annoying when you have to hear someone go on and on about this new thing they discovered called Jesus Christ and how they hope you'll give him a chance, too. :D
    i hate the people you can't hold a conversation with, because everything you say is wrong because God says its a different way or something....
    live pearl jam is best pearl jam
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    Just live and let live. If your friend is happy then you should be happy for him. Different strokes for different folks. Atheism can be its own form of brainwashing.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    I have nothing against people worshiping/believing whatever they want, but it is very annoying when you have to hear someone go on and on about this new thing they discovered called Jesus Christ and how they hope you'll give him a chance, too. :D

    Similarly annoying is when you stop going to church, but the rest of your family is still religious as hell (haha... me so ironic), and 8 years later, your mom still says "I prayed for you in church today. Because we know someday, you'll come back to the church. You will."

    Is patronising me supposed to entice me back? :p
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • finnanniefinnannie Posts: 1,186
    Everyone must walk their own road in this life ;)

    we just have to accept this and accept people as they are

    I don't pigeonhole myself into any religion (not even atheism or agnosticism) - my mind roams free. :)
    Won't let the light escape from me.
    Won't let the darkness swallow me.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,209
    I didn't go to church today. :(

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    Just live and let live. If your friend is happy then you should be happy for him. Different strokes for different folks. Atheism can be its own form of brainwashing.

    dont insult me by calling me an atheist. I am nothing. Completely indifferent.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    doin'the-evolution wrote:
    i hate the people you can't hold a conversation with, because everything you say is wrong because God says its a different way or something....

    Yeah...that's pretty much why I no longer communicate with the person who was my best friend growing up. She's married to a pentecostal preacher now, so that was pretty much the nail in that coffin.
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Am I the only pearl jam fan who believes in God?

    if you don't want to hear it, just change the subject. If they persist, tell them politely you are not interested (I read this in a magazine.)

    you act like they robbed a bank or something.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Similarly annoying is when you stop going to church, but the rest of your family is still religious as hell (haha... me so ironic), and 8 years later, your mom still says "I prayed for you in church today. Because we know someday, you'll come back to the church. You will."

    Is patronising me supposed to entice me back? :p
    I've never been religious and don't believe in God (with a capital letter) but my mother is a trainee baptist minister and my father also attends. My mother tells me regularly that the whole congregation at her church regularly pray for me and my brothers. That really pisses me off. It is so patronising. I have nothing against belief in God at all and certainly don't consider my own particular views to be 100% right. I believe they are but accept my fallibility. I am not opposed to the idea of a higher energy or spinozanist god and consider myself a spiritual person but find organised religion repulsive and the fact that this group of people are sat there saying "please be strong for the unsaved family members for they know not what they do" makes me want to headbutt people.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    g under p wrote:
    I didn't go to church today. :(

    Peace

    same here and I feel badly, I have not been in like 2 months except for last weekend when I went to a baptism.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    iluvcats wrote:
    you act like they robbed a bank or something.

    he was robbed. his brain bank was robbed.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    long red wrote:
    dont insult me by calling me an atheist. I am nothing. Completely indifferent.

    I didn't call you anything. But you insulted your friend by saying you wanted to punch him in the fucking throat because he's found God. Excuse me for thinking that might have been self-righteous atheism. If you're indifferent, be indifferent.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I didn't call you anything. But you insulted your friend by saying you wanted to punch him in the fucking throat because he's found God. Excuse me for thinking that might have been self-righteous atheism. If you're indifferent, be indifferent.

    apology accepted.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    iluvcats wrote:
    Am I the only pearl jam fan who believes in God?

    if you don't want to hear it, just change the subject. If they persist, tell them politely you are not interested (I read this in a magazine.)

    you act like they robbed a bank or something.
    There is nothing more infuriating than a person who patronises you because they think they know something you don't when they could just accept that not everyone thinks the way they do and don't think there's anything to be saved from, nor would they want to be if there was. You're very naive if you think it's just a case of changing the subject. I don't try to force my non-belief (which, while not 100% dogmatic, is de facto atheism) on people, nor do I look down on them for not feeling the same as me. I am therefore perfectly within my rights to be pissed off when they don't show me the same courtesy.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    my family always DOGGED a particular religion, one who goes door to door. I work with many women of that faith and one of them knows how troubled I've been for a couple of years and she knows why (becuase I tell her my business.)
    Sometimes she gives me handouts from her church pertaining to my latest drama and there's some good stuff there. She's not forcing it down my throat either.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    You're very naive if you think it's just a case of changing the subject.

    Whatever! I'm going to get a tan now.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Jeremy1012 wrote:
    I've never been religious and don't believe in God (with a capital letter) but my mother is a trainee baptist minister and my father also attends. My mother tells me regularly that the whole congregation at her church regularly pray for me and my brothers. That really pisses me off. It is so patronising. I have nothing against belief in God at all and certainly don't consider my own particular views to be 100% right. I believe they are but accept my fallibility. I am not opposed to the idea of a higher energy or spinozanist god and consider myself a spiritual person but find organised religion repulsive and the fact that this group of people are sat there saying "please be strong for the unsaved family members for they know not what they do" makes me want to headbutt people.

    Next time, I'm considering saying "Oh, it's okay. Me and my fellow non-believers congregate on every other weekday to wish for you guys to join us. So I guess it's a stalemate." :D
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • harmless_little_f***harmless_little_f*** Posts: 8,005
    long red wrote:
    apology accepted.

    I don't believe I apologised for anything.

    Why are you so offended to be called an atheist? Do you believe in God? Yes? Well then your friend has found the same belief as you. No? Well then you're an atheist. Or are you agnostic? In which case your friend may have really found God. Who knows? Who cares, if he's happy.
    'We're learning songs for baby Jesus' birthday. His mum and dad were Merry and Joseph. He had a bed made of clay and the three kings bought him Gold, Frankenstein and Merv as presents.'

    - the great Sir Leo Harrison
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Next time, I'm considering saying "Oh, it's okay. Me and my fellow non-believers congregate on every other weekday to wish for you guys to join us. So I guess it's a stalemate." :D
    :p
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    iluvcats wrote:
    Whatever! I'm going to get a tan now.
    An intelligent response.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    harmless_little_f*** wrote:
    I don't believe I apologised for anything.

    Why are you so offended to be called an atheist? Do you believe in God? Yes? Well then your friend has found the same belief as you. No? Well then you're an atheist. Or are you agnostic? In which case your friend may have really found God. Who knows? Who cares, if he's happy.

    i already told you, i am nothing. the only label i accept is Long Red.
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • orig_long redorig_long red Posts: 2,029
    iluvcats wrote:
    Whatever! I'm going to get a tan now.

    stay away from the light!
    Jam out with your clam out.
  • brainofPJbrainofPJ Posts: 2,361
    iluvcats wrote:
    my family always DOGGED a particular religion, one who goes door to door. I work with many women of that faith and one of them knows how troubled I've been for a couple of years and she knows why (becuase I tell her my business.)
    Sometimes she gives me handouts from her church pertaining to my latest drama and there's some good stuff there. She's not forcing it down my throat either.


    sounds like the religion i belong to...


    Esther's here and she's sick?

    hi Esther, now we are all going to be sick, thanks
  • iluvcatsiluvcats Posts: 5,153
    hey, if they are bugging you and saying that you are going to Hell, just tell them that they are judging you and that should shut them up.

    As for what Jeremy1012 said, to me, bite me! I really don't care. I don't claim to be intelligent, at all. In fact, I'm so stupid, I can't believe that I can log onto here.
    9/98, 9/00 - DC, 4/03 - Pitt., 7/03 - Bristow, 10/04 - Reading, 10/05 - Philly, 5/06 - DC, 6/06 - Pitt., 6/08 - Va Beach, 6/08 - DC, 5/10 - Bristow, 10/13 B'more
    8/08 - Ed solo in DC, 6/09 Ed in B'more,
    10/10 - Brad in B'more
  • jackrabbit slimjackrabbit slim Posts: 564
    I don't think having God in your life is bad. I wish it wasn't so hip to bash religion these days.
    I don't go to church, But i did and it gave me great values and i don't see what's wrong with that.
    I agree with harmless, Believe or don't believe but why bash your friend for finding something that makes him happy?
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    What I am sick of....is these dumb ass threads!
    "I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive


  • Jeremy1012Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    iluvcats wrote:
    hey, if they are bugging you and saying that you are going to Hell, just tell them that they are judging you and that should shut them up.

    As for what Jeremy1012 said, to me, bite me! I really don't care. I don't claim to be intelligent, at all. In fact, I'm so stupid, I can't believe that I can log onto here.
    I never said you are stupid :) I just stated an opinion and find "whatever" to be quite an irritating response. If you don't want or expect debate, don't post. It's a "discussion" board.
    "I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
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