I get it now. Just having trouble understanding your logic.
Sheesh! :rolleyes:
You'd have a hard time convincing me that a BB gun, in the average citizen's hands, is a deadly weapon, unlike an AR-15.
And I never said any gun is the same as a bomb, I said they have the same intention, to maim and kill.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Do you understand what you are looking at? Does one just look more scary to you? You realise the diameter of the musket projectile is anywhere from .50 to .75 inches? The diameter of the projectiles in the semi-auto guns you posted are .223 inches. At close range that musket will do more damage than the other guns you posted.
This isn't even relative to the discussion as what is bearable and what is not has been clearly defined by SCOTUS.
You missed my point. And for fuck's sake... guns don't look scary. I'm not afraid of guns. A 10 feet tall, 1,200 lb polar bear ready to bash your head in is scary, a picture of a gun is not.
So at close range one will do more damage but say for example I want to kill a lot of people in a mall or a school, which one would suit my needs better do you think?
How about the military? What exactly do they use? Weapons from the American revolution or more modern weapons and could you also explain why exactly?
You can pretend like a Kalashnikov is the same as a weapon made over 200 years ago, but I think we all know that's complete bullshit.
You missed my point. And for fuck's sake... guns don't look scary. I'm not afraid of guns. A 10 feet tall, 1,200 lb polar bear ready to bash your head in is scary, a picture of a gun is not.
When you face that polar bear, I wonder what you'll be wishing you had to defend yourself with...
So at close range one will do more damage but say for example I want to kill a lot of people in a mall or a school, which one would suit my needs better do you think?
Depends on your definition of "a lot"
How about the military? What exactly do they use? Weapons from the American revolution or more modern weapons and could you also explain why exactly?
Keeping up with the Jones'... I mean Jonesinskis'.
You can pretend like a Kalashnikov is the same as a weapon made over 200 years ago, but I think we all know that's complete bullshit.
I'm not, it isn't, and it is.
Ironically they are often operated by people living as if it were 2000 years ago.
You missed my point. And for fuck's sake... guns don't look scary. I'm not afraid of guns. A 10 feet tall, 1,200 lb polar bear ready to bash your head in is scary, a picture of a gun is not.
So at close range one will do more damage but say for example I want to kill a lot of people in a mall or a school, which one would suit my needs better do you think?
How about the military? What exactly do they use? Weapons from the American revolution or more modern weapons and could you also explain why exactly?
You can pretend like a Kalashnikov is the same as a weapon made over 200 years ago, but I think we all know that's complete bullshit.
I believe I watched a 20/20 with a clip of all of the military needing to resort to potato launchers and paint ball guns. They said that in Iraq, that's all you pretty much need. Oh, and they shoot beef through the potato launchers as well. It works every time...............
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Firearms kill people indescriminately and need to be banned. Guns are made for killing. Just call the police if a bear shows up. Why do you live in so much fear of polar bears?
Firearms kill people indescriminately ane need to be banned. Guns are made for killing. Just call the police if a bear shows up. You live in so much fear of polar bears.
I never said guns need to be banned. Yes, guns are made for killing.
I never even implied that you should call the police when a wild animal is about to tear you to shreds. In fact, I've said plenty of times that dealing with wild and dangerous animals is a very good reason to have a gun.
If you don't understand the difference between looking for one of the most efficient killers in the world on a huge, empty icey space far away from mankind, where the closest help you can find is hours or maybe days away... and your comfortable home on the good ole USA, I think maybe you're not exactly fit to own a gun.
That being said, why don't you go out and shoot a dear or a boar with one of your precious guns, cook the meat and invite me for dinner... You know, make yourself and your gun useful
I never said guns need to be banned. Yes, guns are made for killing.
I never even implied that you should call the police when a wild animal is about to tear you to shreds. In fact, I've said plenty of times that dealing with wild and dangerous animals is a very good reason to have a gun.
If you don't understand the difference between looking for one of the most efficient killers in the world on a huge, empty icey space far away from mankind, where the closest help you can find is hours or maybe days away... and your comfortable home on the good ole USA, I think maybe you're not exactly fit to own a gun.
So why do you hate guns again?
That being said, why don't you go out and shoot a dear or a boar with one of your precious guns, cook the meat and invite me for dinner... You know, make yourself and your gun useful
There is an early deer season going on right now but I am waiting for the November season. I will invite you for dinner!
You have to admit that the founding fathers couldn't have had any idea the rate of fire that modern guns have today when they created the 2nd amendment.
OH MY GOD, I just said IF it was constitutional, as your right to bear firearms is, would you still defend it or would you realise that just because something is constitutional, it doesn't make it right? I assume you have the power of individual thought? IF (note I said if) you were allowed a bomb, would you defend the right of an American to have one because it is in inanimate object?
I don't understand your inability to consider a hypothesis. A weapon is a weapon, they are made to kill.
Did he ever answer your question? If he did, I must have missed it...
I am old enough, I am just too stupid to know how. Who needs clocks anyways?
Not the hundreds of thousands of dead people from gunshot wounds thats for sure.
Look, i'll say it again so you are clear on where i am coming from. I don't agree, but i understand that some people may wish to purchase a gun and have it on their property, in the event that they may need to someday protect themselves or their family against real physical harm. Ok i get that and i also respect that you have the choice to be able to do that.
What i do not understand, is how some people like you can come on here and boast about owning one. It sounds really immature and like you are not responsible enough to own one. Aren't you the one who advocates 'guns don't killpeople, people kill people'? How about you apply this logic to yourself then. 'Guns don't make a man a man'
Again, america has a problem with guns. simple fact.
I don't. I just think that there should be really strict laws, in every state, or country. It is a device designed to kill, even in the right hands it can end in disaster, but in the wrong hands a gun is just dangerous (remember Seung-Hui Cho). I'm not against a ban, but I'm not for it either. But I'm definitely against the lax attitude when people talk about guns. Half of the people here say they'd kill a man over a TV. This isn't a movie. You will be responsible for someone's death. It won't just be the "intruder", it'll be someone with a name, a mourning family that might call you a murderer. It might become clear he had no intention of hurting you at all... All of this, even if he was a scumbag, is not easy to deal with. There is of course always the chance that the intruder has a weapon too and that he's faster than you. Perhaps your gun is the only reason why he'd shoot. Also, it is very plausible that the intruder gets to you while you're sleeping and dreaming about shooting burglars.
Just observe people. Can you tell me people are responsible and intelligent? When you open a newspaper here you can make a list of deceased idiots. Moron takes XTC and crashes into a tree. Extremely drunken idiot hits a truck. Totally wasted driver kills three girls on their way to school. Woman puts baby in microwave oven. It goes on and on and on...
It's definitely true that people kill people, so why the fuck would you make it easy for these idiots to buy guns? We've got libraries filled with human history, most of it is not about peaceful times. It's war after war after war. The genocide of these people and the slaughter of those.
I'm tired now... But I guess you get my point. I think violence is a serious problem anywhere and lenient gun laws don't exactly help. I'm not saying this will solve the problem but it's a step.
What i do not understand, is how some people like you can come on here and boast about owning one. It sounds really immature and like you are not responsible enough to own one. Aren't you the one who advocates 'guns don't killpeople, people kill people'? How about you apply this logic to yourself then. 'Guns don't make a man a man'
Has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with the fact that there are some on this board that would take away that right. So I chose to exercise that right as a way to stick it to 'the man'. 'The man' in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards who think guns are evil. That's my motivation.
Has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with the fact that there are some on this board that would take away that right. So I chose to exercise that right as a way to stick it to 'the man'. 'The man' in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards who think guns are evil. That's my motivation.
There's a HUGE difference between thinking guns are evil and wanting to do away with the 2nd Amendment.
Has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with the fact that there are some on this board that would take away that right. So I chose to exercise that right as a way to stick it to 'the man'. 'The man' in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards who think guns are evil. That's my motivation.
I have not seen too many people posting who want to take away that right. I've seen people posting saying that it's insane to kill people over possessions but they do understand your right to want to protect your family in the event of real danger. I've seen people say that we have a real problem here compared to the rest of the world with how many fatalaties there as a result of gunshot wounds. Trying to get you to actually admit that last point though is like trying to get blood out of a stone.
Did he ever answer your question? If he did, I must have missed it...
Nope. He doesn't answer questions if the choices are either saying something that harms his argument or lying. Noble in a way, I suppose. Irritating though.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Nope. He doesn't answer questions if the choices are either saying something that harms his argument or lying. Noble in a way, I suppose. Irritating though.
Why would I answer a question that is hypothetical and doesn't even relate to the topic?
You can aim a gun. You have complete control over who or what you hit. A nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately. Apples vs. Oranges and a comparison of the two as if they are equal is retarded. That's why I didn't answer your question, not because I have anything to hide, it's because it was a retarded question to begin with.
Would I support an individual right to own a nuclear weapon? Never.
1. All guns are always loaded! Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy!
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.
Follow these rules and you will always hit your intended target.
Why would I answer a question that is hypothetical and doesn't even relate to the topic?
You can aim a gun. You have complete control over who or what you hit. A nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately. Apples vs. Oranges and a comparison of the two as if they are equal is retarded. That's why I didn't answer your question, not because I have anything to hide, it's because it was a retarded question to begin with.
Would I support an individual right to own a nuclear weapon? Never.
Are you and scb happy now?
Christ, I didn't realise hypothetical questions were irrelevant, especially ones that deal with humans and weapons in a thread about humans and weapons. Silly me :rolleyes: I should have known the only things that can be discussed here are things that you approve of and advocate. God forbid anyone use this website as a discussion board rather than a "69charger has a list of things he will talk about, do not digress or deviate from his chosen topics one iota or you will be ignored".
Also, if you think every American follows those rules you've got there about guns then you need to educate yourself. Not every person who exercises the second amendment is some Timothy McVeigh military nut with training. Some are just jackasses who can buy guns online out of spite.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
Christ, I didn't realise hypothetical questions were irrelevant, especially ones that deal with humans and weapons in a thread about humans and weapons. Silly me :rolleyes: I should have known the only things that can be discussed here are things that you approve of and advocate. God forbid anyone use this website as a discussion board rather than a "69charger has a list of things he will talk about, do not digress or deviate from his chosen topics one iota or you will be ignored".
You finally figured out the true purpose of this board! You are correct. It is my own personal playground.
Also, if you think every American follows those rules you've got there about guns then you need to educate yourself. Not every person who exercises the second amendment is some Timothy McVeigh military nut with training.
Maybe they should be...
Some are just jackasses who can buy guns online out of spite.
Buying a gun online is no different than buying one in a gun store. What's your point?
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And I never said any gun is the same as a bomb, I said they have the same intention, to maim and kill.
You missed my point. And for fuck's sake... guns don't look scary. I'm not afraid of guns. A 10 feet tall, 1,200 lb polar bear ready to bash your head in is scary, a picture of a gun is not.
So at close range one will do more damage but say for example I want to kill a lot of people in a mall or a school, which one would suit my needs better do you think?
How about the military? What exactly do they use? Weapons from the American revolution or more modern weapons and could you also explain why exactly?
You can pretend like a Kalashnikov is the same as a weapon made over 200 years ago, but I think we all know that's complete bullshit.
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WOLVERINES!!!! err..... BADGERS!!!!!
When you face that polar bear, I wonder what you'll be wishing you had to defend yourself with...
Depends on your definition of "a lot"
Keeping up with the Jones'... I mean Jonesinskis'.
I'm not, it isn't, and it is.
Ironically they are often operated by people living as if it were 2000 years ago.
Polar bears aren't exactly common here. But if I ever decide to go to polar bear area, I'll make sure I can protect myself against them.
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With what?
I believe I watched a 20/20 with a clip of all of the military needing to resort to potato launchers and paint ball guns. They said that in Iraq, that's all you pretty much need. Oh, and they shoot beef through the potato launchers as well. It works every time...............
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
A firearm probably.
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Firearms kill people indescriminately and need to be banned. Guns are made for killing. Just call the police if a bear shows up. Why do you live in so much fear of polar bears?
I followed your instructions to the letter and I have a new firearm! Thanks AMT!
I never said guns need to be banned. Yes, guns are made for killing.
I never even implied that you should call the police when a wild animal is about to tear you to shreds. In fact, I've said plenty of times that dealing with wild and dangerous animals is a very good reason to have a gun.
If you don't understand the difference between looking for one of the most efficient killers in the world on a huge, empty icey space far away from mankind, where the closest help you can find is hours or maybe days away... and your comfortable home on the good ole USA, I think maybe you're not exactly fit to own a gun.
That being said, why don't you go out and shoot a dear or a boar with one of your precious guns, cook the meat and invite me for dinner... You know, make yourself and your gun useful
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So why do you hate guns again?
There is an early deer season going on right now but I am waiting for the November season. I will invite you for dinner!
I am old enough, I am just too stupid to know how. Who needs clocks anyways?
Did he ever answer your question? If he did, I must have missed it...
Look, i'll say it again so you are clear on where i am coming from. I don't agree, but i understand that some people may wish to purchase a gun and have it on their property, in the event that they may need to someday protect themselves or their family against real physical harm. Ok i get that and i also respect that you have the choice to be able to do that.
What i do not understand, is how some people like you can come on here and boast about owning one. It sounds really immature and like you are not responsible enough to own one. Aren't you the one who advocates 'guns don't killpeople, people kill people'? How about you apply this logic to yourself then. 'Guns don't make a man a man'
Again, america has a problem with guns. simple fact.
I don't. I just think that there should be really strict laws, in every state, or country. It is a device designed to kill, even in the right hands it can end in disaster, but in the wrong hands a gun is just dangerous (remember Seung-Hui Cho). I'm not against a ban, but I'm not for it either. But I'm definitely against the lax attitude when people talk about guns. Half of the people here say they'd kill a man over a TV. This isn't a movie. You will be responsible for someone's death. It won't just be the "intruder", it'll be someone with a name, a mourning family that might call you a murderer. It might become clear he had no intention of hurting you at all... All of this, even if he was a scumbag, is not easy to deal with. There is of course always the chance that the intruder has a weapon too and that he's faster than you. Perhaps your gun is the only reason why he'd shoot. Also, it is very plausible that the intruder gets to you while you're sleeping and dreaming about shooting burglars.
Just observe people. Can you tell me people are responsible and intelligent? When you open a newspaper here you can make a list of deceased idiots. Moron takes XTC and crashes into a tree. Extremely drunken idiot hits a truck. Totally wasted driver kills three girls on their way to school. Woman puts baby in microwave oven. It goes on and on and on...
It's definitely true that people kill people, so why the fuck would you make it easy for these idiots to buy guns? We've got libraries filled with human history, most of it is not about peaceful times. It's war after war after war. The genocide of these people and the slaughter of those.
I'm tired now... But I guess you get my point. I think violence is a serious problem anywhere and lenient gun laws don't exactly help. I'm not saying this will solve the problem but it's a step.
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Has nothing to do with bragging and everything to do with the fact that there are some on this board that would take away that right. So I chose to exercise that right as a way to stick it to 'the man'. 'The man' in this case being the anti-gun-commie-pinko-bastards who think guns are evil. That's my motivation.
There's a HUGE difference between thinking guns are evil and wanting to do away with the 2nd Amendment.
pink is a very nice color, wouldn't you agree, 69????
a derivitive of nature.
nature is god
god is love
love is light
Why would I answer a question that is hypothetical and doesn't even relate to the topic?
You can aim a gun. You have complete control over who or what you hit. A nuclear weapon kills indiscriminately. Apples vs. Oranges and a comparison of the two as if they are equal is retarded. That's why I didn't answer your question, not because I have anything to hide, it's because it was a retarded question to begin with.
Would I support an individual right to own a nuclear weapon? Never.
Are you and scb happy now?
Dark pink is cool. Light pink is nauseating.
This wins the funniest post of the day award. Thanks so much - I needed a good laugh!
If you think that's funny then you have no business ever handling a firearm.
"4 Rules" as taught at Gunsite Academy http://www.gunsite.com/
1. All guns are always loaded! Even if they are not, treat them as if they are.
2. Never let the muzzle cover anything you are not willing to destroy!
3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on the target!
4. Identify your target, and what is behind it. Never shoot at anything that you have not positively identified.
Follow these rules and you will always hit your intended target.
Also, if you think every American follows those rules you've got there about guns then you need to educate yourself. Not every person who exercises the second amendment is some Timothy McVeigh military nut with training. Some are just jackasses who can buy guns online out of spite.
You finally figured out the true purpose of this board! You are correct. It is my own personal playground.
Maybe they should be...
Buying a gun online is no different than buying one in a gun store. What's your point?