Can you take off your vision impairing lenses for a minute or two?
Can you actually look at what the fuck you are copying?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Can you take off your vision impairing lenses for a minute or two?
Can you actually look at what the fuck you are copying?
In your words in the quote, you are pointing out that the go is selfish and wants a sexy car, sexy mates, or to be better than everyone.
In the link it says that the ego understands that being impulsive or selfish can hurt us in the long run.
Being willfully selfish and understanding the pitfalls of being selfish are two separate things.
Also the one link substantiates that the ego balances our lower and higher functions (id and superego), which makes it the neutral player making the choices, based on reality. You said:
The ego can channel our highest aspects and it can channel our lowest aspects. It does not only want money, power and sexy mates. It can also want what catefrances' ego wants: "my ego tells me to be the best i can be within myself. and to be content with that". That was my original point--there are two sides to the ego coin.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
In your words in the quote, you are pointing out that the go is selfish and wants a sexy car, sexy mates, or to be better than everyone.
In the link it says that the ego understands that being impulsive or selfish can hurt us in the long run.
Being willfully selfish and understanding the pitfalls of being selfish are two separate things.
Also the one link substantiates that the ego balances our lower and higher functions (id and superego), which makes it the neutral player making the choices, based on reality. You said:
The ego can channel our highest aspects and it can channel our lowest aspects. It does not only want money, power and sexy mates. It can also want what catefrances' ego wants: "my ego tells me to be the best i can be within myself. and to be content with that". That was my original point--there are two sides to the ego coin.
She got you on this one, Ahnimus.
You're not having a good night.
I mean, your definition of ego only describes some sort of spoiled, impudent, brat. It was a very unscientific definition, contrary to your usual self, and contrary to Angelica's more correct definition.
In your words in the quote, you are pointing out that the go is selfish and wants a sexy car, sexy mates, or to be better than everyone.
In the link it says that the ego understands that being impulsive or selfish can hurt us in the long run.
Being willfully selfish and understanding the pitfalls of being selfish are two separate things.
Also the one link substantiates that the ego balances our lower and higher functions (id and superego), which makes it the neutral player making the choices, based on reality. You said:
The ego can channel our highest aspects and it can channel our lowest aspects. It does not only want money, power and sexy mates. It can also want what catefrances' ego wants: "my ego tells me to be the best i can be within myself. and to be content with that". That was my original point--there are two sides to the ego coin.
That's all fucking irrelevant, open your ears! damnit!
No matter which way you slice it, the ego is not neutral, the ego is self-interested, it doesn't give two shits about the homeless fuck down the street, unless it makes you feel good to care about him. Get it?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
That's all fucking irrelevant, open your ears! damnit!
No matter which way you slice it, the ego is not neutral, the ego is self-interested, it doesn't give two shits about the homeless fuck down the street, unless it makes you feel good to care about him. Get it?
Good night Ahnimus.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
That's all fucking irrelevant, open your ears! damnit!
No matter which way you slice it, the ego is not neutral, the ego is self-interested, it doesn't give two shits about the homeless fuck down the street, unless it makes you feel good to care about him. Get it?
if the ego were solely self interested it wouldn't maintain balance between the id and the superego. it would say 'fuck the lot of you i'm doing whatever the hell i want.' there would be no filter between our impulse and our conscience. if i do something because it needs to be done that doesn't necessarily make me feel good doing it. i am talking about acts of beneficence here, not the washing up.
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if the ego were solely self interested it wouldn't maintain balance between the id and the superego. it would say 'fuck the lot of you i'm doing whatever the hell i want.' there would be no filter between our impulse and our conscience. if i do something because it needs to be done that doesn't necessarily make me feel good doing it. i am talking about acts of beneficence here, not the washing up.
In Freud's theory, the ego mediates among the id, the super-ego and the external world. Its task is to find a balance between primitive drives, morals, and reality while satisfying the id and superego. Its main concern is with the individual's safety and allows some of the id's desires to be expressed, but only when consequences of these actions are marginal. Ego defense mechanisms are often used by the ego when id behavior conflicts with reality and either society's morals, norms, and taboos or the individual's expectations as a result of the internalization of these morals, norms, and taboos.
Although in his early writings Freud equated the ego with the sense of self, he later began to portray it more as a set of psychic functions such as reality-testing, defence, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning, and memory.
The word ego is taken directly from Latin where it is the nominative of the first person singular personal pronoun and is translated as "I myself" to express emphasis. Ego is the English translation for Freud's German term "Ich."
Self-interested.
Well, that's interesting, the english translation of the German term "Ich" is "I" not "Ego". Perhaps it should read: "Ego is the Latin translation for the German term "Ich".
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
if the ego were solely self interested it wouldn't maintain balance between the id and the superego. it would say 'fuck the lot of you i'm doing whatever the hell i want.' there would be no filter between our impulse and our conscience. if i do something because it needs to be done that doesn't necessarily make me feel good doing it. i am talking about acts of beneficence here, not the washing up.
Well, there would be no id or superego without the ego. That's sort of the construct of that whole Freudian cocaine orgy.
Although in his early writings Freud equated the ego with the sense of self, he later began to portray it more as a set of psychic functions such as reality-testing, defence, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning, and memory.
i like this. ego = sense of self.
and shit ahnimus everybody knows ich means I. and I being one's self, it makes total sense that ego would translate to I.
thanks for the semantic translation lesson.
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lie beside me
i just need to say
Although in his early writings Freud equated the ego with the sense of self, he later began to portray it more as a set of psychic functions such as reality-testing, defence, synthesis of information, intellectual functioning, and memory.
i like this. ego = sense of self.
and shit ahnimus everybody knows [b[ich[/b] means I. and I being one's self, it makes total sense that ego would translate to I.
thanks for the semantic translation lesson.
Not exactly. Ego like to eat ice cream. Ego like Pearl Jam. Makes no sense, because in english we think of Ego as simply one aspect of self. Of course that term "self" can be interpeted different ways as well.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
And I was trying to lighten things up. I didn't have audio with your video,but I didn't need to. Whoa...! Pretty powerful imagery. Watch it w/o the sound...
And I was trying to lighten things up. I didn't have audio with your video,but I didn't need to. Whoa...! Pretty powerful imagery. Watch it w/o the sound...
if anyone would appreciate the audio ...it would be you.
life has nothing to do with killing time
Bring it on cause I'm no victim
b nice loves pearl jam like ed vedder loves america
if anyone would appreciate the audio ...it would be you.
It was actually a little hardcore for even me. And I just watched the video. Ill go back and listen. I actually do not believe Christianity was a hoax. I just wanted to spur discussion. I think its a legitimate religion and there was probably a living Jesus. I think though, by looking at the history of Christianity and how it spread, and perhaps why it spread, one can certainly deduce lots of reasons why many of the stories could have been fabricated. Certainly the very minimal evidence of his life, coupled with the distance in time between his death and the rise of Christianity in Europe (a period of 300 years) makes it very hard to swallow.
Do you believe in morals or integrity or anything like that..
because those are beliefs - There is no scientific basis..
Those are similarly hoaxes... Not nice to call what people belive in a hoax... we all have beliefs -
What on earth are you on about morals are a 'hoax'???
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but evolutionary biology/psychology has been providing a 'scientific basis' to the existence of morality since before my parents were born. There have been more scientific publications on the subject than you or I could wade through in a lifetime.
Granted many people in this thread will reject that scientifc literature and believe morality to be something God given and innate, which is fine and a sound basis for an interesting discussion on the subject. But to say no scientific basis has been offered is a little bizzarre.
i actually saw the entire thing. i never saw george carlin before and now that i have, he really isn't funny.
i'd like to say oooh so manny things but i know that it will come of nothing. however, i will say this. just because you don't have any evidence, does that mean that you could never believe? look at the st louis cardinals... world champions of the mlb. who would ever figure that they would make it to the finals and win coming out of a losing streak towards the end of the season that jeapardized their chances of making it to the playoffs??? the evidence seemed otherwise, but the will of those players said differently. it's the same thing with those that have faith in something "bigger". true. we don't see it, but i think we're smart enough to understand what faith is.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
And I have a problem with a religion that preaches that no matter how good I am, I'm still going to hell because I didn't accept Jesus.
if we read the bible, the bible never says, "those that are not good are going to hell" and neither does it sum up to those teachings. what it does say is that goodness is something sort of like an obligation for every human being to do. whether you are ghandi, mlk, or the dali lama... goodness is a piece of God written in our hearts. read Ecclesiastes 3:11,12,13 goodness comes from God.
people without the knowledge of christ cannot share those "glorious" things the Bible teaches because of their own unbelief. like in the days of noah, the only reason why the men of then did not enter the ark was because of their unbelief. it still serves the same for today. you don't want to go to hell? well, then believe that you are going to heaven. how do you do that? well, you have to think like Christ did. in order for you to do that you have to live like Jesus did, you have to change your way of thinking and your way of living. this is what being "born again" means. it's in your power to do these things and not in what others say.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
if we read the bible, the bible never says, "those that are not good are going to hell" and neither does it sum up to those teachings. what it does say is that goodness is something sort of like an obligation for every human being to do. whether you are ghandi, mlk, or the dali lama... goodness is a piece of God written in our hearts. read Ecclesiastes 3:11,12,13 goodness comes from God.
people without the knowledge of christ cannot share those "glorious" things the Bible teaches because of their own unbelief. like in the days of noah, the only reason why the men of then did not enter the ark was because of their unbelief. it still serves the same for today. you don't want to go to hell? well, then believe that you are going to heaven. how do you do that? well, you have to think like Christ did. in order for you to do that you have to live like Jesus did, you have to change your way of thinking and your way of living. this is what being "born again" means. it's in your power to do these things and not in what others say.
But on this issue im with qte. There is absolutely zero evidence of the life of Jesus outside of the new testament and that book is not history. It's myth, maybe even fantasy. You don't even have any written record of the new testament for almost a full century after Jesus's purported death. Now im not saying the guy didnt live. He probably did. There is just nothing to support any of the claims in the new testament. A big fat nothing. So you say have faith. Of course, you'd have to have faith because there ain't no proof. Christianity came into being more out of politics then out of religion. That's not meant as an attack so don't start shoutin at me again board. It's just fact.
I take issue with any religion that holds itself in higher esteem than others. And some christians do believe that unless you go with Jesus your doomed to burn. That shit is so middle ages it's ridiculous. It's high time all of the world's major religions gave it a hard think and looked to a more global and univeral message. Think of all the lives that would be saved if we all dropped the bullshit about our own respective religions or branches of religions. It's stagerring when you think about.
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Can you take off your vision impairing lenses for a minute or two?
Can you actually look at what the fuck you are copying?
In your words in the quote, you are pointing out that the go is selfish and wants a sexy car, sexy mates, or to be better than everyone.
In the link it says that the ego understands that being impulsive or selfish can hurt us in the long run.
Being willfully selfish and understanding the pitfalls of being selfish are two separate things.
Also the one link substantiates that the ego balances our lower and higher functions (id and superego), which makes it the neutral player making the choices, based on reality. You said:
The ego can channel our highest aspects and it can channel our lowest aspects. It does not only want money, power and sexy mates. It can also want what catefrances' ego wants: "my ego tells me to be the best i can be within myself. and to be content with that". That was my original point--there are two sides to the ego coin.
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She got you on this one, Ahnimus.
You're not having a good night.
I mean, your definition of ego only describes some sort of spoiled, impudent, brat. It was a very unscientific definition, contrary to your usual self, and contrary to Angelica's more correct definition.
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That's all fucking irrelevant, open your ears! damnit!
No matter which way you slice it, the ego is not neutral, the ego is self-interested, it doesn't give two shits about the homeless fuck down the street, unless it makes you feel good to care about him. Get it?
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Hahaha, typical of you Angelica.
Sounds good. I like it! It's got a catchy ring to it!!;)
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if the ego were solely self interested it wouldn't maintain balance between the id and the superego. it would say 'fuck the lot of you i'm doing whatever the hell i want.' there would be no filter between our impulse and our conscience. if i do something because it needs to be done that doesn't necessarily make me feel good doing it. i am talking about acts of beneficence here, not the washing up.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Self-interested.
Well, that's interesting, the english translation of the German term "Ich" is "I" not "Ego". Perhaps it should read: "Ego is the Latin translation for the German term "Ich".
Well, there would be no id or superego without the ego. That's sort of the construct of that whole Freudian cocaine orgy.
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i like this. ego = sense of self.
and shit ahnimus everybody knows ich means I. and I being one's self, it makes total sense that ego would translate to I.
thanks for the semantic translation lesson.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
that's me.
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Not exactly. Ego like to eat ice cream. Ego like Pearl Jam. Makes no sense, because in english we think of Ego as simply one aspect of self. Of course that term "self" can be interpeted different ways as well.
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what's a canoe?
take a good look
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Maybe you can incorporate these goings-on into your story over there? somehow, some way.
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which story would that be g_b?
take a good look
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i just need to say
The one you asked me to stop posting on.
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OUCH!!!
did i really ask you to stop posting or stop posting irrelevent posts? i don't mind contributions if they fit.
hope i didn't bruise your ego g_b?
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
to the father, the son and the holy hoax
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73_IjNPmIEI
Bring it on cause I'm no victim
b nice loves pearl jam like ed vedder loves america
if anyone would appreciate the audio ...it would be you.
Bring it on cause I'm no victim
b nice loves pearl jam like ed vedder loves america
What on earth are you on about morals are a 'hoax'???
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make but evolutionary biology/psychology has been providing a 'scientific basis' to the existence of morality since before my parents were born. There have been more scientific publications on the subject than you or I could wade through in a lifetime.
Granted many people in this thread will reject that scientifc literature and believe morality to be something God given and innate, which is fine and a sound basis for an interesting discussion on the subject. But to say no scientific basis has been offered is a little bizzarre.
i'd like to say oooh so manny things but i know that it will come of nothing. however, i will say this. just because you don't have any evidence, does that mean that you could never believe? look at the st louis cardinals... world champions of the mlb. who would ever figure that they would make it to the finals and win coming out of a losing streak towards the end of the season that jeapardized their chances of making it to the playoffs??? the evidence seemed otherwise, but the will of those players said differently. it's the same thing with those that have faith in something "bigger". true. we don't see it, but i think we're smart enough to understand what faith is.
people without the knowledge of christ cannot share those "glorious" things the Bible teaches because of their own unbelief. like in the days of noah, the only reason why the men of then did not enter the ark was because of their unbelief. it still serves the same for today. you don't want to go to hell? well, then believe that you are going to heaven. how do you do that? well, you have to think like Christ did. in order for you to do that you have to live like Jesus did, you have to change your way of thinking and your way of living. this is what being "born again" means. it's in your power to do these things and not in what others say.
But on this issue im with qte. There is absolutely zero evidence of the life of Jesus outside of the new testament and that book is not history. It's myth, maybe even fantasy. You don't even have any written record of the new testament for almost a full century after Jesus's purported death. Now im not saying the guy didnt live. He probably did. There is just nothing to support any of the claims in the new testament. A big fat nothing. So you say have faith. Of course, you'd have to have faith because there ain't no proof. Christianity came into being more out of politics then out of religion. That's not meant as an attack so don't start shoutin at me again board. It's just fact.
I take issue with any religion that holds itself in higher esteem than others. And some christians do believe that unless you go with Jesus your doomed to burn. That shit is so middle ages it's ridiculous. It's high time all of the world's major religions gave it a hard think and looked to a more global and univeral message. Think of all the lives that would be saved if we all dropped the bullshit about our own respective religions or branches of religions. It's stagerring when you think about.