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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,544
    edited January 22
    I can see how its a turn off especially if you aren't connecting on the economic issues ("oh you're not gonna help me but you certainly care about other people who aren't me??"), but I agree. Also any messaging about racism/sexism/etc coming from the campaign and surrogates that I saw , seemed to be more ABOUT Trump/Vance/Congressional GOPers/etc, not about their voters.

    Sure, your common Twitter poster most likely went that route, but your terminally online resistance poster isn't the fucking campaign or the party and I certainly wouldn't attribute it to moving the needle to L.
     
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,799
    edited January 22
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    Guess it wasn't enough for the Dems who chose to sit this vote out
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  • josevolution
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    https://apnews.com/article/trump-immigration-ice-raids-school-2d899678264f44fe1021847ee385fd15Trump won't ban immigration arrests at school. Some families are now weighing school attendance

    I’m surprised that Nazi Miller is not going on these raids! This shouldn’t surprise anyone who knows what the piece of 💩 said he would do! 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽him and all his supporters. 
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    josevolution said:
    https://apnews.com/article/trump-immigration-ice-raids-school-2d899678264f44fe1021847ee385fd15Trump won't ban immigration arrests at school. Some families are now weighing school attendance

    I’m surprised that Nazi Miller is not going on these raids! This shouldn’t surprise anyone who knows what the piece of 💩 said he would do! 🖕🏽🖕🏽🖕🏽him and all his supporters. 

  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,799
    edited January 22
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,769
    DE4173 said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    Guess it wasn't enough for the Dems who chose to sit this vote out
    Americans are lazy, what else is new? 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    It's only true in the GOP/Fox bubble...Fox does a great job of reinforcing that on a daily basis. Kind of like the whitewash they are doing on Musk's Heil Hitler episode now. 
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  • Tim Simmons
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    DE4173 said:
    https://x.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1882148749138383027?t=yYdKgGR89FjvCVg4aI3Aig&s=19

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,956
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    I think it's baloney. It's exactly their playbook is all it is. Blame the other side. Reverse reality. Keep saying you don't see or hear what you see and hear. I don't care how many time they say it, it's still baloney....and I'm being polite with that word. 
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  • DE4173
    DE4173 Posts: 2,799
    I can't believe it's happening. Again. 
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,373
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    isnt it permission to be who they are though?

    see my opinion is fuckstick showed us in stark relief the real undercurrent of who many of us are as a nation in the first term. he gets to be more fully himself this term. sure as fuck hope I'm wrong on the second part, buts its not looking goid this early.

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  • Merkin Baller
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    mickeyrat said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    isnt it permission to be who they are though?

    see my opinion is fuckstick showed us in stark relief the real undercurrent of who many of us are as a nation in the first term. he gets to be more fully himself this term. sure as fuck hope I'm wrong on the second part, buts its not looking goid this early.

    Yup… & some 30+ years ago he marveled at how David Duke did the exact same thing. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,373
    edited January 23
    Merkin Baller said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    isnt it permission to be who they are though?

    see my opinion is fuckstick showed us in stark relief the real undercurrent of who many of us are as a nation in the first term. he gets to be more fully himself this term. sure as fuck hope I'm wrong on the second part, buts its not looking goid this early.

    Yup… & some 30+ years ago he marveled at how David Duke did the exact same thing. 

    Yeah, but with Duke it wasn't sustained and out , loud and proud like now.
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  • Merkin Baller
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    mickeyrat said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Merkin Baller said:

    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
    isnt it permission to be who they are though?

    see my opinion is fuckstick showed us in stark relief the real undercurrent of who many of us are as a nation in the first term. he gets to be more fully himself this term. sure as fuck hope I'm wrong on the second part, buts its not looking goid this early.

    Yup… & some 30+ years ago he marveled at how David Duke did the exact same thing. 

    Yeah, but with Duke it wasn't sustained and out , loud and proud like now.
    Agreed… my point was more toward yours about tapping into the undercurrent. 


    Our reality has become the South Park ‘N Word’ episode and it’s bizarre AF. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Well, this is one way to do it.

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  • DE4173
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  • tbergs
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    DE4173 said:

    I feel so much safer now.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    tbergs said:
    DE4173 said:

    I feel so much safer now.
    Well, you should. Have you ever had your retainer lodged? Like in a corn cob? Or trying to tap a maple tree? Huh? How about getting it caught on a zipper? Ever done that? 
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  • DE4173
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