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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,410
    lindamarie73 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Racist xenophobic pieces of shit are so happy about this.

    Glad you feel comfortable enough to admit it.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    And if that were true, he would have won in 2020. He got destroyed. And it’s not like there was this big pause on characterization of trump voters. 😂 #magalogic
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  • battle1
    battle1 PHI Posts: 637
    Right on cue, with the spin.  
  • brianlux
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    Gift NY Times article:

    18 States Sue to Stop Trump’s Birthright Citizenship Order

    The lawsuit to block the president’s executive order is the first salvo in what is likely to be a long-running legal fight over immigration policy.


    Attorneys general from 18 states sued President Trump on Tuesday to block an executive order that refuses to recognize the U.S.-born children of unauthorized immigrants as citizens, the opening salvo in what promises to be a long legal battle over the Trump administration’s immigration policies.

    The complaint, filed in Federal District Court in Massachusetts was joined by the cities of San Francisco and Washington, D.C.

    The states view Mr. Trump’s attempt to limit birthright citizenship as “extraordinary and extreme,” said New Jersey’s attorney general, Matthew J. Platkin, who led the legal effort along with the attorneys general from California and Massachusetts. “Presidents are powerful, but he is not a king. He cannot rewrite the Constitution with a stroke of the pen.”

    On Monday, in the opening hours of his second term as president, Mr. Trump signed an order declaring that future children born to undocumented immigrants would no longer be treated as citizens. The order would extend even to the children of some mothers in the country legally but temporarily, such as foreign students or tourists.

    Mr. Trump’s executive order asserts that the children of such noncitizens are not “subject to the jurisdiction” of the United States, and thus aren’t covered by the 14th Amendment’s longstanding constitutional guarantee.

    The order flew in the face of more than 100 years of legal precedent, when the courts and the executive branch interpreted the 14th Amendment as guaranteeing citizenship to every baby born in the United States, regardless of their parents’ legal status. The courts recognized only a narrow exception for the children of accredited diplomats.

    But there are signs the judiciary could be divided on the issue. Judge James C. Ho, whom Mr. Trump nominated to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, has been more sympathetic to some of Mr. Trump’s arguments, likening unauthorized immigrants to an invading army. That comparison has also been made by lawyers for the State of Texas and another declaration by Mr. Trump that illegal crossings at the southern border amount to an “ongoing invasion.”

    Still, that appeals court does not hear cases originating in Massachusetts, and other courts are unlikely to even consider the Trump administration’s arguments about constitutional interpretation without a new law from Congress, said Gerard Magliocca, a professor at the Indiana University Robert H. McKinney School of Law. He cited recent cases where the Supreme Court ruled that the executive branch can’t single-handedly address the biggest political controversies, known as “major questions.”

    “If that’s true of student loans or Covid-19 rules or whatever, you’d think it would be true of citizenship as well,” he said. “The states are right and the courts are probably going to agree with them.”


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  • Bentleyspop
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    A lot of lawyers are going to make a  lot of money over the next 4 years.
  • mickeyrat
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mickeyrat said:

    Give me your hungry, your tired, your poor I'll piss on 'em
    That's what the Statue of Bigotry says
    Your poor huddled masses
    Let's club 'em to death
    And get it over with and just dump 'em on the boulevard

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  • seanwon
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    Bentleyspop said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Racist xenophobic pieces of shit are so happy about this.

    Glad you feel comfortable enough to admit it.
    She's right. I still voted for Kamala, just to try and keep Trump out of office.  I'm not sure what she is "admitting to," however. Democrats made a huge blunder insinuating that if you vote Republican, you are a racist/homophobe/sexist, etc.  Most Libs I know feel the same way. Figure it out...or continue to lose elections.  The elephant in the room is people care about out-of-control food/energy/cost of living.  For some reason, this wasn't the message.  And it cost us dearly.  
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  • mickeyrat
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    seanwon said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Racist xenophobic pieces of shit are so happy about this.

    Glad you feel comfortable enough to admit it.
    She's right. I still voted for Kamala, just to try and keep Trump out of office.  I'm not sure what she is "admitting to," however. Democrats made a huge blunder insinuating that if you vote Republican, you are a racist/homophobe/sexist, etc.  Most Libs I know feel the same way. Figure it out...or continue to lose elections.  The elephant in the room is people care about out-of-control food/energy/cost of living.  For some reason, this wasn't the message.  And it cost us dearly.  

    he will do nothing about food cost. you cannot force private companies to produce more supply of oil, as it has the effect of driving profit down. so if its opening up more areas of federal land to leases, these same private companies hold thousands of unexplored leases already.


    if talking home energy, gop states like ohio deregulation of electric and gas, claiming competition would drive prices down as well as fracking increasing natural gas supply, my bills have gone up dramatically for both.

    cost of living? i.e. rents or mortgages?  investment groups are the primary drivers of increased housing costs.

    fuckstick will do nothing about any of it. he will be bribed in some way and have even less incentive to do for anyone much less those who voted for the fuck.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    seanwon said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Racist xenophobic pieces of shit are so happy about this.

    Glad you feel comfortable enough to admit it.
    She's right. I still voted for Kamala, just to try and keep Trump out of office.  I'm not sure what she is "admitting to," however. Democrats made a huge blunder insinuating that if you vote Republican, you are a racist/homophobe/sexist, etc.  Most Libs I know feel the same way. Figure it out...or continue to lose elections.  The elephant in the room is people care about out-of-control food/energy/cost of living.  For some reason, this wasn't the message.  And it cost us dearly.  
    😂 then why didn’t it “cost us dearly” in 2020? And inflation was part of the message. Guess you missed that in your blind insistence on blaming liberals for trump. Patently absurd. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Boy, was she nasty! Just nasty! Wish the camera panned to see the COOTWH diaper squish-squirm and scowl.

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  • mickeyrat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Boy, was she nasty! Just nasty! Wish the camera panned to see the COOTWH diaper squish-squirm and scowl.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFG4f5pRlIx/?igsh=MW40ZHJwdWR4eWN5eQ==

    theres video out there
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  • Tim Simmons
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    seanwon said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Racist xenophobic pieces of shit are so happy about this.

    Glad you feel comfortable enough to admit it.
    however. Democrats made a huge blunder insinuating that if you vote Republican, you are a racist/homophobe/sexist, etc.  

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,586
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Boy, was she nasty! Just nasty! Wish the camera panned to see the COOTWH diaper squish-squirm and scowl.

    https://www.instagram.com/reel/DFG4f5pRlIx/?igsh=MW40ZHJwdWR4eWN5eQ==
    She won’t have a parish to sermon from by Sunday! That Cardinal from NY will toss her out how dare she questions the King 💩 head 
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  • Tim Simmons
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    huh? Isn't she an Episcopal minister? Cardinals are Catholic. 

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,544
    To no ones surprise nothing happened in Chicago yesterday.

  • josevolution
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    Tim Simmons said:
    huh? Isn't she an Episcopal minister? Cardinals are Catholic. 

    Yeah I’m not sure just spewing my condescending opinion! But I can totally see him asking who her superiors are and having someone call them to give her an assignment somewhere else. 
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  • DE4173
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    Fake news. 

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  • Bentleyspop
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    Tim Simmons said:
    seanwon said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    lindamarie73 said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Racist xenophobic pieces of shit are so happy about this.

    Glad you feel comfortable enough to admit it.
    however. Democrats made a huge blunder insinuating that if you vote Republican, you are a racist/homophobe/sexist, etc.  


  • Merkin Baller
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    I'm more than a little skeptical that the left pointing out trump's racism / homophobia / xenophobia is what forced people to vote for him that otherwise wouldn't have... that doesn't really pass the smell test, but what do I know? 
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