You guys must feel like you've entered some strange, alternate universe when you peer through your computer screens into the vast interwebs of jews, jokes, sliced bread, breakfast cereals and dvds.
I can't explain the "magicks" you guys introduce me to. I just know my pet leprechaun tells me it's not for Irish minds to comprehend.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
3. All kinds of fishy shit involving 911. The 911 Commission report flat out lies about what time Cheney arrived in the command bunker. It ignores Norman Minnetas testimony regarding "of course the order still stands". The FAA deposed all workers by taking recorded statements of their accounts of 911. Their supervisor collected these testimonies and destroyed them in front of everyone. Bush and Cheney wouldn't testify except under the most absolute bullshit of conditions. I've showed you seizmographic evidence of "explosions" all over the twin towers starting more than 3-5 minutes before the collapse started, and increasing in frequency 20 seconds before collapse. We've showed you extensively the lies and deception both by NIST officials, and all the fuck over the NIST reports themselves. We've shown you the pakistani intelligence official who is admitted to have transferred $100k to hijacker Mohammed Atta, and admittedly had a meeting with Rumsfeld, Rice, and Wolfowitz the day before and the day of 911. We've been over the war games, the transfer of "intercept" orders from miltary to cheney, the unsusualy low volume of passengers on all flights involved with 911. We've shown you testimony from countles dozens and hundreds of credentialed individuals who dispute everything that happend that day: CIA ranking officials, state department officials, military officials, long time FAA employees, fighter pilots, engineers, etc etc etc ... all say 911 is a crock of shit.
no proof my fucking lilly white, red hair speckled ass.
:cool:
You do know what circumstantial evidence is, yes?
Where the hell are all the actual links between all these pieces of information and the people (read: Americans) who are allegedly up to no good? I am guessing that they ain't lurking somewhere in your red ass-hair.
You do know what circumstantial evidence is, yes?
Where the hell are all the actual links between all these pieces of information and the people (read: Americans) who are allegedly up to no good? I am guessing that they ain't lurking somewhere in your red ass-hair.
You know what is really ironic, is that the same people screaming "circumstantial evidence" are the exact same people saying "come back when you have DNA proof."
Well, take a look, goobamaroos ... DNA analysis IS circumstantial evidence!
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
... I suppose where her and I might differ is on the basic definition of what constitutes good evidence.
I'm suspecting not. I consider and speculate about all kinds of out there ideas. Taking something to be objectively, or factually true is something entirely different for me. I am very skeptical, even though I support free thinking.
I'm a big believer in the North American Union "conspiracy". I also realize there is no proof for it and that my interpretation of the actions that are being carried out by government officials could be way off base.
I'm also very psychologically savvy. I feel that I can often easily identify when people are also weaving their own unconscious emotional, fear-based (read flawed) perceptions into their theories, beyond their own awareness. I can see how that is beyond the facts. And still, I can also see the validity of the theory as a valid alternate possibility. Especially when I see the going given "acceptable" explanation as equally flawed and taken to be true by those with entirely different emotionally driven (read flawed) agendas.
We all do it. It just bugs me when there is the mainstream accepted ideology, and the fringe, rejected and shamed ideology. That's about emotions and psychological issues, not facts.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
This board has really changed my perception on so many things...I can't seem to stay decided on some topics because people are so good at expressing their point of view here. I just try to keep an open mind and keep listening.
I've grown through so many different stages of my own growth and the one thing I've learned...which is echoed in basic Buddhism!!....is to not be attached to my beliefs...to understand they are impermanent, because as I grow and progress, each one-time belief, interpretation, etc. ultimately comes to reveal the other side of it's nature..and it's limitations as a map for understanding reality or what happens.
The problem comes in when we think our logic or ideology is the truth and we are rigid about it. If we want to hold to our beliefs as though they are true at the expense of other beliefs, it's a sure sign we're closing down our own growth.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I've grown through so many different stages of my own growth and the one thing I've learned...which is echoed in basic Buddhism!!....is to not be attached to my beliefs...to understand they are impermanent, because as I grow and progress, each one-time belief, interpretation, etc. ultimately comes to reveal the other side of it's nature..and it's limitations as a map for understanding reality or what happens.
The problem comes in when we think our logic or ideology is the truth and we are rigid about it. If we want to hold to our beliefs as though they are true at the expense of other beliefs, it's a sure sign we're closing down our own growth.
well... not to only not be attached to your beliefs, but to anything. attachments are the source of all sorrow. to know that everything is impermanent and all we have in our lives today we can live without.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
You know what is really ironic, is that the same people screaming "circumstantial evidence" are the exact same people saying "come back when you have DNA proof."
Well, take a look, goobamaroos ... DNA analysis IS circumstantial evidence!
Your point? Who said DNA evidence is airtight under all circumstances?
well... not to only not be attached to your beliefs, but to anything. attachments are the source of all sorrow. to know that everything is impermanent and all we have in our lives today we can live without.
Yep.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
apparently "thinking out of the box" = talking down to and being total asses towards anyone who doesn't see the same conspiracies you do.
interesting definition of openmindedness!
apparently it automatically means they have a higher IQ/intelligence...although we have no proof of that either.
btw - i do NOT think drifting is condescending at ALL (well, maybe only sometimes...but ya know i love ya anyway drifting )...the rest, i haven't read enough to have an opinion. however, 'conspiracy theorists' or not...i do not equate with 'thinking outside the box'...nor necessarily higher intelligence..or any of the other things attributed in this thread. i see it ALL as OPINIONS. it's all a question of what you read and who you believe, or not. no different than most else. some are more prescribed to the more fringe ideas...some more mainstream..doesn't make any more true or intelligent....merely different. whatever. all a non-issue in my mind.
It doesn't matter if the majority doesn't get it. You are generating a rarefied type of awareness and thinking that eventually has a trickle down effect.
i dont 'get it'???? because I'm not aware?
wow
Are you putting yourself in the category of those who don't get it? I don't control whether you get it or not.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
apparently "thinking out of the box" = talking down to and being total asses towards anyone who doesn't see the same conspiracies you do.
interesting definition of openmindedness!
I'm sure it has nothing to do with your approach of marginalizing anyone's opinions and beliefs (when they differ from yours), by throwing out personal insults, characterizing them as looney or nutjobs; as well as verbal sucker punches and outright verbal attacks on people's character and integrity.
Nah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with that. Everyone just picks on you because your opinion differes from theirs.
Lalalalalalalalala.....what a beautiful day to take a stroll with such a heavy wooden cross upon my back. Boy, my palms and feet hurt. And what's that pain in my abdomen?
Of course, me and Helen couldn't possibly comment. We don't have conspiracies in Ireland yet.
All I see is a bunch of letters in front of me Damn, I wish I'd gotten one of those education things so I could make sense of them :(
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Maybe I am just a prick today, but no. I don't think these people should be thanked. I think that conspiracy theories are useful only if there is some tangible evidence to back them up. Critical thinkers with an empirical mindset should be thanked. The message board equivalents of shock-jocks should not be thanked.
If there were evidence... they'd be called revelations! NOT conspiracy theories.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Of course, me and Helen couldn't possibly comment. We don't have conspiracies in Ireland yet.
just because you have no firsthand experience, knowledge, insight or meaningful comments to contribute to a certain thread, don't let that stop you! it never has before.
"Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
just because you have no firsthand experience, knowledge, insight or meaningful comments to contribute to a certain thread, don't let that stop you! it never has before.
That's funny. Cos, y'know, I did participate in this thread. I discussed the Patriot Act, and the wider ramifications of overpowering a government. Your participation so far, has amounted to:
apparently "thinking out of the box" = talking down to and being total asses towards anyone who doesn't see the same conspiracies you do.
interesting definition of openmindedness!
So excuse me if I accuse you of talking out of your ass, and go about my day.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
That's funny. Cos, y'know, I did participate in this thread. I discussed the Patriot Act, and the wider ramifications of overpowering a government. Your participation so far, has amounted to:
So excuse me if I accuse you of talking out of your ass, and go about my day.
at first i wondered why i got no reply to all those links about patriot act abuses i posted...then i remembered who it was a reply to and realized it's just par for the course
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
at first i wondered why i got no reply to all those links about patriot act abuses i posted...then i remembered who it was a reply to and realized it's just par for the course
And then we're the ones accused of not debating properly. If there was a Zen proverb about message boards, it'd probably be something like "Closed eyes see no sense". But they'd find a way to make it into a metaphor involving fish.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
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I can't explain the "magicks" you guys introduce me to. I just know my pet leprechaun tells me it's not for Irish minds to comprehend.
You do know what circumstantial evidence is, yes?
Where the hell are all the actual links between all these pieces of information and the people (read: Americans) who are allegedly up to no good? I am guessing that they ain't lurking somewhere in your red ass-hair.
....."pet" leprechaun...
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
You know what is really ironic, is that the same people screaming "circumstantial evidence" are the exact same people saying "come back when you have DNA proof."
Well, take a look, goobamaroos ... DNA analysis IS circumstantial evidence!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I'm a big believer in the North American Union "conspiracy". I also realize there is no proof for it and that my interpretation of the actions that are being carried out by government officials could be way off base.
I'm also very psychologically savvy. I feel that I can often easily identify when people are also weaving their own unconscious emotional, fear-based (read flawed) perceptions into their theories, beyond their own awareness. I can see how that is beyond the facts. And still, I can also see the validity of the theory as a valid alternate possibility. Especially when I see the going given "acceptable" explanation as equally flawed and taken to be true by those with entirely different emotionally driven (read flawed) agendas.
We all do it. It just bugs me when there is the mainstream accepted ideology, and the fringe, rejected and shamed ideology. That's about emotions and psychological issues, not facts.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
The problem comes in when we think our logic or ideology is the truth and we are rigid about it. If we want to hold to our beliefs as though they are true at the expense of other beliefs, it's a sure sign we're closing down our own growth.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
well... not to only not be attached to your beliefs, but to anything. attachments are the source of all sorrow. to know that everything is impermanent and all we have in our lives today we can live without.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Your point? Who said DNA evidence is airtight under all circumstances?
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
apparently it automatically means they have a higher IQ/intelligence...although we have no proof of that either.
btw - i do NOT think drifting is condescending at ALL (well, maybe only sometimes...but ya know i love ya anyway drifting
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
I'm sure it has nothing to do with your approach of marginalizing anyone's opinions and beliefs (when they differ from yours), by throwing out personal insults, characterizing them as looney or nutjobs; as well as verbal sucker punches and outright verbal attacks on people's character and integrity.
Nah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with that. Everyone just picks on you because your opinion differes from theirs.
Lalalalalalalalala.....what a beautiful day to take a stroll with such a heavy wooden cross upon my back. Boy, my palms and feet hurt. And what's that pain in my abdomen?
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
just because you have no firsthand experience, knowledge, insight or meaningful comments to contribute to a certain thread, don't let that stop you! it never has before.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
That's funny. Cos, y'know, I did participate in this thread. I discussed the Patriot Act, and the wider ramifications of overpowering a government. Your participation so far, has amounted to:
So excuse me if I accuse you of talking out of your ass, and go about my day.
at first i wondered why i got no reply to all those links about patriot act abuses i posted...then i remembered who it was a reply to and realized it's just par for the course
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
And then we're the ones accused of not debating properly. If there was a Zen proverb about message boards, it'd probably be something like "Closed eyes see no sense". But they'd find a way to make it into a metaphor involving fish.