i think their energy and passion could be better used for actual issues and progress instead of constantly focusing on conpiracy. their passion for conspiracy in all forms is distracting them from real causes. the world needs more active progressives, not internet conspiracy experts. in my honest opinion.
And you play your perfect part in things with your contrasting opinion.
Like the Apple/genius video tells us, these people...we can't ignore them....in this case the "conspiracy theorists"...they come here everyday and agitate people and push the envelope, challenging the set "acceptable" views. They don't allow people to be complacent. There's a great poetry to it. Even though it's often at great challenge and cost to themselves being ridiculed and maligned, they continue to represent what they see, to the benefit of us all. And as the decades pass, and we come to learn more of the truth of 911, and other timely issues, we'll have them to thank. Not those who fall within acceptable truth. That's why I said these people are representing a whole new paradigm. That's a big deal.
Where do you think the actual progressives get their progressive views from? ...many times, it's from those who are out in front of them pushing the limits and pointing things out from a different kind of awareness.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
How many people stand up now? Don't worry, I'm not asking for actual figures or anything but wouldn't you agree that a far greater number of people just get on with their day to day lives and dismiss those who DO stand up as fruitcakes... and suggest their energy be better put to the test elsewhere?
Helen, why does it have to be about making a big show? I mean why do you need to see them stand up? There are people that I know that have followed their core principles and stuck to their beliefs in EVERYTHING they do in every day life for all of their lives. It's not just about standing up, it's about what you buy, how much you consume, how big your footprint is, how many letters you write, who you donate money to, the petitions you sign, how you vote. It's about informing yourself, deciding where you stand and living your life accordingly. People stand up. I see it all around me, every day in the little things they do. Push me and I will resist, this behaviour's not unique.
its not ignorant.. Helen doesn't trust governments.. so my suggestion is to not vote for anyone.. as she doesnt trust them anyway.
and if you vote for someone in an election then you surely 'trust' them... i never alluded to finding them untrustworthy after they had been in their post for 3 years... i think its fine to question them after they are in post.. keep tabs on them so to speak... but by voting for someone in an election you are handing over your trust to them AT THAT POINT.. or surely you wouldnt vote?
Semantics, man.
If you question someone it means you don't entirely trust them otherwise you wouldn't question them now, would you?
It is a tounge in cheek remark.
Sorry I didn't use the dumb .
It is funny that I seem to be one of the only Americans "affected" by this in here.
I have bigger f'ing fish to fry than to worry that the gov't is wiretapping some asshole.
I truly do.
I am a little more concerned about finding a cure for cancer or getting f'ing pedophiles off the street or getting our damn soldiers out of Iraq and mending our fences with the middle east.
If some dude is being profiled for buying 100 lbs of fertilizer, I could give a shit right now.
I guess I just don't agree that, because it doesn't affect you directly (yet), it's not a bad thing. What's that old quote? Anyone who'd sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither?
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
They might not have the manpower, but they have the power to do so. What if they start doing it anyway, can't do anything about it because you'r suddenly labelled a "enemy" and can be locked up indefinitely.
Why give them that power in the first place?
that would only happen in the US though... so do i care?
you're putting way too much credence into all of this... why would they choose someone at random and pry into their life and then have them jailed indefinitely for absolutely no reason.
if they are prying on someone its because they have a belief that they are involved in nefarious activities... they dont pry on EVERYONE.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Well no Helen. I don't agree with that. Statistically more people stood up and protested the invasion of Iraq then protested Vietnam I'm sure I read somewhere. What you have to remember is that people are still doing stuff, they are active, they are involved and they are making an effort, BUT because the media is controlled by the big wigs the slant you get on that is definitely biased. I guess what I'm saying is, if you truly believe that change is possible then first you have to have faith in people. Don't believe what the media tells you. They are bringing our soldiers home and the American administration are under increasing pressure to bring their soldiers home too. Every day people made that happen you know. Mums and Dads, kids, teenagers, grandmas and grandpas not hippies, not druggies, not the great unwashed, every day normal folk, middle class folk even. And that's not the only place it's happened.
Oh and give a fuck what society thinks about me btw. They can laugh all they like, I don't give a fat rats. The government will stand up or make a show of standing up when the people threaten to oust them. These things are always changed in election years.
oh yeh, the year before an election is usually a pretty good time to be in any country...things change pretty quickly though. And yes, people may have protested the war... didn't stop it going ahead though... and the reversal only started when it got completely fucked up... NOT cos of the protesters.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I guess I just don't agree that, because it doesn't affect you directly (yet), it's not a bad thing. What's that old quote? Anyone who'd sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither?
If and when it directly affects me then sure as shit I would want to know.
Why wouldn't I??
When it starts affecting you, in Ireland, let me know.
I am off to beg my corrupt gov't for money to further my education.
Cause I'm broken when I'm lonesome
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
If and when it directly affects me then sure as shit I would want to know.
Why wouldn't I??
When it starts affecting you, in Ireland, let me know.
I am off to beg my corrupt gov't for money to further my education.
So you have no consideration for people who are affected? Correct me if i'm wrong but that sounds selfish.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
its not ignorant.. Helen doesn't trust governments.. so my suggestion is to not vote for anyone.. as she doesnt trust them anyway.
and if you vote for someone in an election then you surely 'trust' them... i never alluded to finding them untrustworthy after they had been in their post for 3 years... i think its fine to question them after they are in post.. keep tabs on them so to speak... but by voting for someone in an election you are handing over your trust to them AT THAT POINT.. or surely you wouldnt vote?
why not? You are assuming they will stick to their words... I only trust those who have proven themselves trustworthy. If a politician states that he/she will do things a certain way you have to ASSUME they will stick to their word. Quite often they don't... who's to know? There are SOME politicians I believe actually mean what they say cos they've proven themselves to me over time... however they are not normally part of a bigger party... so even though I vote for them, they will not have any leadership nor have much of a say other than in opposition.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Helen, why does it have to be about making a big show? I mean why do you need to see them stand up? There are people that I know that have followed their core principles and stuck to their beliefs in EVERYTHING they do in every day life for all of their lives. It's not just about standing up, it's about what you buy, how much you consume, how big your footprint is, how many letters you write, who you donate money to, the petitions you sign, how you vote. It's about informing yourself, deciding where you stand and living your life accordingly. People stand up. I see it all around me, every day in the little things they do. Push me and I will resist, this behaviour's not unique.
all the things you say... THAT'S what I consider standing up... and I don't see very much of it going on around me. Sure just when people start to be knowledgeable about where they should shop, along comes a recession so they can only shop where they can AFFORD to shop... values can't always be upheld in a recession.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
If you question someone it means you don't entirely trust them otherwise you wouldn't question them now, would you?
I voted for my MP nearly 3 years ago... i trusted him back then.. since then he has been involved in 2 shady land deals and was caught shagging a swan... so should i stick with him? i think not..
but at the time of the election i had to chose someone and he was my most trusted candidate... ok i'm not a good judge of character , but trust can surely be earned and lost.. its not a rigid and constant trait.
my point is, Helen votes for her government yet doesnt trust them.. ergo.. dont vote and stand for election yourself
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
that would only happen in the US though... so do i care?
you're putting way too much credence into all of this... why would they choose someone at random and pry into their life and then have them jailed indefinitely for absolutely no reason.
if they are prying on someone its because they have a belief that they are involved in nefarious activities... they dont pry on EVERYONE.
I'm not saying they do this now (although I remember reading stories about people being arrested for taking pictures, even here in Belgium).
They don't pry on everyone, indeed. But they can pry on everyone, the description of what suspicious behaviour is, what domestic terrorist is or what an enemy combatant is, is just too vague. It can be anyone, it can even YOU *ominous tune*
Not yet it hasn't, but why get an act voted in if you never had an intention of using it.
I especially like the bit about taking our bank account and anything else we own of value when the government Sees fit to declare a state of emergency.
All i can say to people is don't get to attached all the stuff you own.
Yes, they're heavily involved in our business but isn't it that their job? They work for the people, and somethings they do will piss you, sometimes.
I mean, we're issued a birth certificate when we're born and a death certificate when we're dead.
Pretty much almost everything we do in life involves in some sort of govern principles from school to marriage to property to other licenses and etc...
Why not try to live life to the fullest possibilities?
If and when it directly affects me then sure as shit I would want to know.
Why wouldn't I??
When it starts affecting you, in Ireland, let me know.
I am off to beg my corrupt gov't for money to further my education.
Overpowering the government is unlikely to end well for the general populace, in my opinion. If you're happy with knowing that everything you do in the public sphere is open to coming under scrutiny, and can honestly tell yourself that it's in the name of freedom, I guess that's your choice.
Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
that would only happen in the US though... so do i care?
you're putting way too much credence into all of this... why would they choose someone at random and pry into their life and then have them jailed indefinitely for absolutely no reason.
if they are prying on someone its because they have a belief that they are involved in nefarious activities... they dont pry on EVERYONE.
Northern Ireland isn't in the US... Irish people were locked up indefinitely not so long ago... by the british government... quite often simply cos someone didn't like their accent. Rights were taken away all over the place... and it could easily happen to you too... look at the new laws the British government are planning on bringing in where they have access to absolutely everything. Ironic thing is that now the big guys are too busy monitoring emails and the likes when most terrorists I'm sure would know better than to actually send an email informing someone of the time and place they're gonna kill whoever? It's gonna be easier to plan stuff using the old and trusted method... through actual physical contact with people.
Where do they get this belief from? Usually from information given to them... by whom?
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i think their energy and passion could be better used for actual issues and progress instead of constantly focusing on conpiracy. their passion for conspiracy in all forms is distracting them from real causes. the world needs more active progressives, not internet conspiracy experts. in my honest opinion.
Also, what the majority and those of "acceptable thought" don't see is that we're all seeing the same things...some people just see much farther into a situation. It's all real. It's all right before our eyes whether we see it or not.
People who have a higher intelligence, or are much more perceptive than the average person, or who are at more developed developmental stages, they are seeing what is right here, all around us. They are merely blessed with heightened awareness that sees far beyond and more indepthly than is average.
The average person...the majority members have a 100 IQ. If you take someone with a 130 IQ, which isn't even genius, it's significantly higher than average. Such an individual will see and understand things far beyond what is "normal".
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Also, what the majority and those of "acceptable thought" don't see is that we're all seeing the same things...some people just see much farther into a situation. It's all real. It's all right before our eyes whether we see it or not.
People who have a higher intelligence, or are much more perceptive than the average person, or who are at more developed developmental stages, they are seeing what is right here, all around us. They are merely blessed with heightened awareness that sees far beyond and more indepthly than is average.
The average person...the majority members have a 100 IQ. If you take someone with a 130 IQ, which isn't even genius, it's significantly higher than average. Such an individual will see and understand things far beyond what is "normal".
:rolleyes: I'm such an egotistic jerk that I volunteer in river and water clean ups in my town. Even helped deliver coats and clothes to the local homeless/less fortunate organizations. Really, I'm such a selfish a-hole!
oh yeh, the year before an election is usually a pretty good time to be in any country...things change pretty quickly though. And yes, people may have protested the war... didn't stop it going ahead though... and the reversal only started when it got completely fucked up... NOT cos of the protesters.
And it won't. You'll never stop war. I mean I'd love it if you could but it's not going to happen. They're far too lucrative. Do you really believe that they're only backing off now because it got completely fucked up???? They'd have known going in that it wasn't going to be popular, that's why it was a trumped up bit of bullshit that got them started. And there are only so many lies you can tell before you get caught out and then there's more bullshit to spin. War is a commodity like anything else, and it has a limited shelf life. It's good for making money and thinning out the herd, maybe gaining some extra acres, a bit more power. All of which appeals to the monied folk. But eventually when public opinion FINALLY comes on board with the great unwashed there's no getting around the fact that now it's time to rebuild and be peacekeepers and there's money to be made from that too. I can understand that you think the only way to go here is to galvanize people, and get them all yelling and waving placards and that they're all apathetic but I really disagree. I think people do what they can when they can and that most likely you aren't going to stop the rich and powerful from having their own way anyway, so you may as well live as principled life as you can, do what you can but live well because you won't change all of it anyway.
If and when it directly affects me then sure as shit I would want to know.
Why wouldn't I??
When it starts affecting you, in Ireland, let me know.
I am off to beg my corrupt gov't for money to further my education.
It's just finished affecting us here... which you'd know if you read any of my posts re. internment and how the Irish were treated in England in the 70s and 80s... but hey, if you see that as the way FORWARD... go ahead.
Oh and... we've free education here by the way
Just imagine every little thing you do online could be monitered by some fat ugly pervert... what if you decide to send topless pics to someone through email or something. They could print them out, share them, have a good laugh/ wank over them etc. Something you think is private is anything but.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
actually the government ruined her thread. sshhhh!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
:rolleyes: I'm such an egotistic jerk that I volunteer in river and water clean ups in my town. Even helped deliver coats and clothes to the local homeless/less fortunate organizations. Really, I'm such a selfish a-hole!
You can be a very generous and giving person. But to me that view sounds very vey egotistical. You don't care if brown people are being locked indefinitely up for no good reason whatsoever. You don't care their home's are being invaded without their knowledge or permission, again without a probable cause. I don't know how you would label that particular view but it's far from altruism.
its not ignorant.. Helen doesn't trust governments.. so my suggestion is to not vote for anyone.. as she doesnt trust them anyway.
and if you vote for someone in an election then you surely 'trust' them... i never alluded to finding them untrustworthy after they had been in their post for 3 years... i think its fine to question them after they are in post.. keep tabs on them so to speak... but by voting for someone in an election you are handing over your trust to them AT THAT POINT.. or surely you wouldnt vote?
Point taken, apparently I read your post differently then you intended it to sound.
Northern Ireland isn't in the US... Irish people were locked up indefinitely not so long ago... by the british government... quite often simply cos someone didn't like their accent. Rights were taken away all over the place... and it could easily happen to you too...
that was in the past.. thank you for confirming that we are now freer today than you were in the past
look at the new laws the British government are planning on bringing in where they have access to absolutely everything. Ironic thing is that now the big guys are too busy monitoring emails and the likes when most terrorists I'm sure would know better than to actually send an email informing someone of the time and place they're gonna kill whoever? It's gonna be easier to plan stuff using the old and trusted method... through actual physical contact with people.
fine.
its not for dramatic effect... if they want to look through my emails (they already look at my work ones) then fine... they'll get extremely bored though... bored and lazy.. then tired... then they'll miss the bit where i say i'm going to bomb all of england in the name of FREEDOM!! for scotland... oopsies, i've said way too much
but they can pry all they want... i'll never know otherwise
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
that was in the past.. thank you for confirming that we are now freer today than you were in the past
I haven't disputed that... I've been questioning why we'd allow our governments to go BACK to those ways, which we're slowly, very slowly, doing :eek: Don't we learn anything?
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
all the things you say... THAT'S what I consider standing up... and I don't see very much of it going on around me. Sure just when people start to be knowledgeable about where they should shop, along comes a recession so they can only shop where they can AFFORD to shop... values can't always be upheld in a recession.
Well I see plenty of it. Have seen plenty of it and will continue to see plenty of it. JUST as I will continue to see governments and big business keep trying to have it their way. That's what humans do. They wrestle over things. Some days you win and some days you lose.
There will be people in a recession that hang on to their values regardless just as there will be people that don't. And none of it will amount to a hill of beans in the end for each of us as individuals anyway. You can only do so much and then ultimately I think it has to be the way cate and dunk said. You look after your family and your loved ones and live as good a life as you can manage and then you die and still it all goes on without you.
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Like the Apple/genius video tells us, these people...we can't ignore them....in this case the "conspiracy theorists"...they come here everyday and agitate people and push the envelope, challenging the set "acceptable" views. They don't allow people to be complacent. There's a great poetry to it. Even though it's often at great challenge and cost to themselves being ridiculed and maligned, they continue to represent what they see, to the benefit of us all. And as the decades pass, and we come to learn more of the truth of 911, and other timely issues, we'll have them to thank. Not those who fall within acceptable truth. That's why I said these people are representing a whole new paradigm. That's a big deal.
Where do you think the actual progressives get their progressive views from? ...many times, it's from those who are out in front of them pushing the limits and pointing things out from a different kind of awareness.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Helen, why does it have to be about making a big show? I mean why do you need to see them stand up? There are people that I know that have followed their core principles and stuck to their beliefs in EVERYTHING they do in every day life for all of their lives. It's not just about standing up, it's about what you buy, how much you consume, how big your footprint is, how many letters you write, who you donate money to, the petitions you sign, how you vote. It's about informing yourself, deciding where you stand and living your life accordingly. People stand up. I see it all around me, every day in the little things they do. Push me and I will resist, this behaviour's not unique.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Semantics, man.
If you question someone it means you don't entirely trust them otherwise you wouldn't question them now, would you?
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I guess I just don't agree that, because it doesn't affect you directly (yet), it's not a bad thing. What's that old quote? Anyone who'd sacrifice liberty for security deserves neither?
that would only happen in the US though... so do i care?
you're putting way too much credence into all of this... why would they choose someone at random and pry into their life and then have them jailed indefinitely for absolutely no reason.
if they are prying on someone its because they have a belief that they are involved in nefarious activities... they dont pry on EVERYONE.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Why wouldn't I??
When it starts affecting you, in Ireland, let me know.
I am off to beg my corrupt gov't for money to further my education.
And I don't feel right when you're gone away
So you have no consideration for people who are affected? Correct me if i'm wrong but that sounds selfish.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I voted for my MP nearly 3 years ago... i trusted him back then.. since then he has been involved in 2 shady land deals and was caught shagging a swan... so should i stick with him? i think not..
but at the time of the election i had to chose someone and he was my most trusted candidate... ok i'm not a good judge of character
my point is, Helen votes for her government yet doesnt trust them.. ergo.. dont vote and stand for election yourself
I'm not saying they do this now (although I remember reading stories about people being arrested for taking pictures, even here in Belgium).
They don't pry on everyone, indeed. But they can pry on everyone, the description of what suspicious behaviour is, what domestic terrorist is or what an enemy combatant is, is just too vague. It can be anyone, it can even YOU *ominous tune*
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I mean, we're issued a birth certificate when we're born and a death certificate when we're dead.
Pretty much almost everything we do in life involves in some sort of govern principles from school to marriage to property to other licenses and etc...
Why not try to live life to the fullest possibilities?
EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
Overpowering the government is unlikely to end well for the general populace, in my opinion. If you're happy with knowing that everything you do in the public sphere is open to coming under scrutiny, and can honestly tell yourself that it's in the name of freedom, I guess that's your choice.
Where do they get this belief from? Usually from information given to them... by whom?
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
People who have a higher intelligence, or are much more perceptive than the average person, or who are at more developed developmental stages, they are seeing what is right here, all around us. They are merely blessed with heightened awareness that sees far beyond and more indepthly than is average.
The average person...the majority members have a 100 IQ. If you take someone with a 130 IQ, which isn't even genius, it's significantly higher than average. Such an individual will see and understand things far beyond what is "normal".
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
We totally ruined your thread. Sorry.
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EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
And it won't. You'll never stop war. I mean I'd love it if you could but it's not going to happen. They're far too lucrative. Do you really believe that they're only backing off now because it got completely fucked up???? They'd have known going in that it wasn't going to be popular, that's why it was a trumped up bit of bullshit that got them started. And there are only so many lies you can tell before you get caught out and then there's more bullshit to spin. War is a commodity like anything else, and it has a limited shelf life. It's good for making money and thinning out the herd, maybe gaining some extra acres, a bit more power. All of which appeals to the monied folk. But eventually when public opinion FINALLY comes on board with the great unwashed there's no getting around the fact that now it's time to rebuild and be peacekeepers and there's money to be made from that too. I can understand that you think the only way to go here is to galvanize people, and get them all yelling and waving placards and that they're all apathetic but I really disagree. I think people do what they can when they can and that most likely you aren't going to stop the rich and powerful from having their own way anyway, so you may as well live as principled life as you can, do what you can but live well because you won't change all of it anyway.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Yeah, it sorta went from "Pushing the Envelope" to "Opening your envelopes without your permission".
Oh and... we've free education here by the way
Just imagine every little thing you do online could be monitered by some fat ugly pervert... what if you decide to send topless pics to someone through email or something. They could print them out, share them, have a good laugh/ wank over them etc. Something you think is private is anything but.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
actually the government ruined her thread. sshhhh!!
You can be a very generous and giving person. But to me that view sounds very vey egotistical. You don't care if brown people are being locked indefinitely up for no good reason whatsoever. You don't care their home's are being invaded without their knowledge or permission, again without a probable cause. I don't know how you would label that particular view but it's far from altruism.
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Yeah, and you work for them, you bastard!
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Point taken, apparently I read your post differently then you intended it to sound.
that was in the past.. thank you for confirming that we are now freer today than you were in the past
fine.
its not for dramatic effect... if they want to look through my emails (they already look at my work ones) then fine... they'll get extremely bored though... bored and lazy.. then tired... then they'll miss the bit where i say i'm going to bomb all of england in the name of FREEDOM!! for scotland... oopsies, i've said way too much
but they can pry all they want... i'll never know otherwise
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Well I see plenty of it.
There will be people in a recession that hang on to their values regardless just as there will be people that don't. And none of it will amount to a hill of beans in the end for each of us as individuals anyway. You can only do so much and then ultimately I think it has to be the way cate and dunk said. You look after your family and your loved ones and live as good a life as you can manage and then you die and still it all goes on without you.
*~You're IT Bert!~*
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift