eh... no, it's NOT true Jesus, I give you the FACTS and I'm still wrong! :rolleyes:
Where are you getting this 'fact' of yours then? Please educate me, I'd love to know!
In terms of official government foreign assistance, “the U.S. gives the most in absolute amounts, more than twice what the second ranked donor, Japan, gives,” said Adelman during a global Internet chat July 27.
But this number does not include substantial private foreign assistance, such as aid that comes from private donations, charities, religious associations and other nonprofit groups.
“Private international giving by Americans is over three and one-half times that of U.S. government foreign assistance,” Adelman told participants in the Internet chat. “When you take into account this U.S. private giving, our foreign assistance far exceeds other countries by any measure.”
Carol Adelman is a specialist in foreign aid and development with the Hudson Institute in Washington.
Sorry, but you are very very very wrong.
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If supporting castro raising eyebrows, I dont really care to be honest. He has some great ideas, and he should be praised for them.
Castro is a hero for saying "no" to the u.s.
Are you fucking kidding me!!! You really need to pull your head out of your ass. Castro is no fucking hero and any one who believes he is needs to have their head examined. Just because he stood up to the bully on the block and may have some great ideas does not erase the horrors he has imposed on the Cuban people. There so many Cuban families, that I know of personally, who have either lost loved ones or seen loved ones wrongfully incarcerated and tortured. My own mother had to watch as her father was beaten on the streets of Havana simply because my grandfather would not spy on a neighbor. He broke no law he simply refsued to be the governments stoolie. For this my grandmother and granfather get sent to work camps for 6 months. My grandmother has to suffer through countless guards abusing her physically, mentally, and sexually. Two of my mother's cousins where executed for voicing their opinion of the Castro regime. My father had to flee the country for doing the same. My cousin's uncle was beaten to death in plain view of his family for harboring a friend who was wanted by the Castro government. These are just some of the horror stories from one family. Imagine how many others like this are out there. Are these the actions of a hero to you because if they are you are one twisted sick little fucker. I tried to be calm and rational the first time you call this fucking monster a hero, but I can't any long.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
In terms of official government foreign assistance, “the U.S. gives the most in absolute amounts, more than twice what the second ranked donor, Japan, gives,” said Adelman during a global Internet chat July 27.
But this number does not include substantial private foreign assistance, such as aid that comes from private donations, charities, religious associations and other nonprofit groups.
“Private international giving by Americans is over three and one-half times that of U.S. government foreign assistance,” Adelman told participants in the Internet chat. “When you take into account this U.S. private giving, our foreign assistance far exceeds other countries by any measure.”
Carol Adelman is a specialist in foreign aid and development with the Hudson Institute in Washington.
Sorry, but you are very very very wrong.
Private aid was NOT taken into account for ANY of the countries.. and the US STILL did not top the list. And with private aid included it still wouldn't.
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No word can define the level of idiocy you're reaching.
How so? I've given the facts and figures and I'm just told 'you're wrong' over and over again. I really don't get it. At least MakingWaves attempted to put a good argument forward. Calling me an idiot hardly proves your point, does it?
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Private aid was NOT taken into account for ANY of the countries.. and the US STILL did not top the list. And with private aid included it still wouldn't.
Well it is obvious now what is happening here. You are looking at per capita and I was looking at the overall dollar amount. You are correct about the per capita rankings and I am right about the overall dollar amount ranking....so we both win! Plus, I don't like arguing with someone from Ireland. I love Ireland and am planning on going there in '08.
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Well it is obvious now what is happening here. You are looking at per capita and I was looking at the overall dollar amount. You are correct about the per capita rankings and I am right about the overall dollar amount ranking....so we both win! Plus, I don't like arguing with someone from Ireland. I love Ireland and am planning on going there in '08.
ok... I'll shake on that!
Hope to discuss it over a pint next year then.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Pensacola '94 New Orleans '95 Birmingham '98 New Orleans '00 New Orleans '03 Tampa '08 New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest Fenway Park '18 St. Louis '22
well you'll have a good time here cos you can compromise . The others are just 'you're wrong you're wrong' and it was for THAT reason I started the thread, lol. Not to bash anybody, and certainly not those giving donations. At least somebody (on the opposing 'side') sees my point
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
well you'll have a good time here cos you can compromise . The others are just 'you're wrong you're wrong' and it was for THAT reason I started the thread, lol. Not to bash anybody, and certainly not those giving donations. At least somebody (on the opposing 'side') sees my point
Darlin you still need to concede that the US gives the most, by far, of any country based on Dollar Amounts! the dollars that buy medicine and food. Hell Bill Gates, an american, gives more himself then all Arab countries combined.
Darlin you still need to concede that the US gives the most, by far, of any country based on Dollar Amounts! the dollars that buy medicine and food. Hell Bill Gates, an american, gives more himself then all Arab countries combined.
Ok... Well why couldn't you just say that? If you want to make that point again... please feel free to add 'based on dollar amounts' and remember that the US has a MUCH bigger population and GDP than most countries... I think as far as GENEROSITY is concerned (which so many of you seem to be concerned about) it's important to mention the REAL figure when all these are taken into account... cos in the context I've read 'America gives more money than any other country' it never seems to be regarding what the people receive but more implying that America is MUCH more generous than all the other countries... which simply is not true.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
People HAVE done... trust me on that. People have said it straight out on several occasions AND people have implied it quite a lot. It's always in a kinda 'my country's better than yours' way when how the fuck could we match what you give taking into consideration your population is 60 times bigger than ours???????
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers, with an eye on reports of failing health of Cuban President
Fidel Castro, said they intend in the new Democratic-led Congress to seek to ease restrictions on travel and trade with the communist island.
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The new legislative push coincides with a moment of change in Cuba. Castro, 80, handed power provisionally to his brother, Raul, 75, after undergoing surgery in July. Recent reports suggest Castro suffered complications from the surgery and his recovery has been slow.
The first step would be to allow the 1.2 million Cubans living in the United States to travel to Cuba whenever they want, reversing the restriction to once every three years set by the Bush administration, said Rep. Bill Delahunt, a Democrat from Massachusetts.
"That's going to be my priority," Delahunt told Reuters in a telephone interview on Thursday. He said he was optimistic the legislation could pass this year.
The restrictions imposed by
President George W. Bush also reduced the amount of money Cuban Americans could send to their relatives back home.
These measures divided the Cuban exile community in Miami where the hard-line anti-Castro views of early arrivals have begun to be diluted by more recent migrants with stronger ties to families left behind.
Delahunt and other lawmakers who oppose the U.S. sanctions enforced on Cuba since 1962 are expected to seek to lift restrictions on academic cooperation and trade. Rep. Jose Serrano (news, bio, voting record), a New York Democrat, introduced a bill two weeks ago calling for the lifting of the trade embargo in its entirety.
"The more open we become, the more we demonstrate that we want to have a respectful relationship with Cuba that would be in the best long-term interest of the United States and open political space for the Cuban people to prosper," said Delahunt, one of a group of lawmakers who traveled to Cuba in December. They did not meet either Fidel or Raul Castro.
PRESIDENTIAL VETO?
Republican Rep. Jeff Flake (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona said he wants the ban on travel to Cuba lifted to allow all U.S. citizens, not just Cuban Americans, to travel to the island just 90 miles away from the Florida Keys.
Flake said the travel ban, which can result in fines for those visiting Cuba, had given Fidel Castro a target to rail against.
"We shouldn't give the new government the same advantages we gave the old," Flake said.
Previous attempts to ease restrictions on Cuba have failed in the U.S. House of Representatives, and a leading Republican advocate of a hard line against Cuba said he doubted the new Democratic majority would have the votes to override a veto by Bush.
"At the end of the day, we have the votes and we still have the president," said Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (news, bio, voting record), a Republican from Florida.
In any case, he said his colleagues were merely chipping at the edges of the U.S. embargo and that would not change until Cuba freed political prisoners and held multi-party elections.
"They are looking at trees, not at the forest. The forest is that there will not be normalized relations with the United States, neither the millions of dollars in American tourism, investments and financing that the regime wants," he said.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers, with an eye on reports of failing health of Cuban President
Fidel Castro, said they intend in the new Democratic-led Congress to seek to ease restrictions on travel and trade with the communist island.
ADVERTISEMENT
The new legislative push coincides with a moment of change in Cuba. Castro, 80, handed power provisionally to his brother, Raul, 75, after undergoing surgery in July. Recent reports suggest Castro suffered complications from the surgery and his recovery has been slow.
The first step would be to allow the 1.2 million Cubans living in the United States to travel to Cuba whenever they want, reversing the restriction to once every three years set by the Bush administration, said Rep. Bill Delahunt, a Democrat from Massachusetts.
"That's going to be my priority," Delahunt told Reuters in a telephone interview on Thursday. He said he was optimistic the legislation could pass this year.
The restrictions imposed by
President George W. Bush also reduced the amount of money Cuban Americans could send to their relatives back home.
These measures divided the Cuban exile community in Miami where the hard-line anti-Castro views of early arrivals have begun to be diluted by more recent migrants with stronger ties to families left behind.
Delahunt and other lawmakers who oppose the U.S. sanctions enforced on Cuba since 1962 are expected to seek to lift restrictions on academic cooperation and trade. Rep. Jose Serrano (news, bio, voting record), a New York Democrat, introduced a bill two weeks ago calling for the lifting of the trade embargo in its entirety.
"The more open we become, the more we demonstrate that we want to have a respectful relationship with Cuba that would be in the best long-term interest of the United States and open political space for the Cuban people to prosper," said Delahunt, one of a group of lawmakers who traveled to Cuba in December. They did not meet either Fidel or Raul Castro.
PRESIDENTIAL VETO?
Republican Rep. Jeff Flake (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona said he wants the ban on travel to Cuba lifted to allow all U.S. citizens, not just Cuban Americans, to travel to the island just 90 miles away from the Florida Keys.
Flake said the travel ban, which can result in fines for those visiting Cuba, had given Fidel Castro a target to rail against.
"We shouldn't give the new government the same advantages we gave the old," Flake said.
Previous attempts to ease restrictions on Cuba have failed in the U.S. House of Representatives, and a leading Republican advocate of a hard line against Cuba said he doubted the new Democratic majority would have the votes to override a veto by Bush.
"At the end of the day, we have the votes and we still have the president," said Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (news, bio, voting record), a Republican from Florida.
In any case, he said his colleagues were merely chipping at the edges of the U.S. embargo and that would not change until Cuba freed political prisoners and held multi-party elections.
"They are looking at trees, not at the forest. The forest is that there will not be normalized relations with the United States, neither the millions of dollars in American tourism, investments and financing that the regime wants," he said.
It is a good start, but we really need to lift that embargo. I'm also extremely disappointed in Lincoln Diaz-Balart's stance in this. As a Cuban-American you would think that he would be more concerned with the averge Cuban the embargo is hurting.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
It is a good start, but we really need to lift that embargo. I'm also extremely disappointed in Lincoln Diaz-Balart's stance in this. As a Cuban-American you would think that he would be more concerned with the averge Cuban the embargo is hurting.
I didnt relaize how old Raul was too. 75. are there any other castro brothers?
I didnt relaize how old Raul was too. 75. are there any other castro brothers?
No Fidel has two brothers. Raul and Ramon, he is older than Fisel. Ramon was involved in the Revolution but mostly by supplying the troops with food. He is not involved in the Cuban government.
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ok cool, but my point is I would like to see all people live under freedom. if a dictator allows freedoms, all of them, then I stand corrected
In terms of official government foreign assistance, “the U.S. gives the most in absolute amounts, more than twice what the second ranked donor, Japan, gives,” said Adelman during a global Internet chat July 27.
But this number does not include substantial private foreign assistance, such as aid that comes from private donations, charities, religious associations and other nonprofit groups.
“Private international giving by Americans is over three and one-half times that of U.S. government foreign assistance,” Adelman told participants in the Internet chat. “When you take into account this U.S. private giving, our foreign assistance far exceeds other countries by any measure.”
Carol Adelman is a specialist in foreign aid and development with the Hudson Institute in Washington.
Sorry, but you are very very very wrong.
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Are you fucking kidding me!!! You really need to pull your head out of your ass. Castro is no fucking hero and any one who believes he is needs to have their head examined. Just because he stood up to the bully on the block and may have some great ideas does not erase the horrors he has imposed on the Cuban people. There so many Cuban families, that I know of personally, who have either lost loved ones or seen loved ones wrongfully incarcerated and tortured. My own mother had to watch as her father was beaten on the streets of Havana simply because my grandfather would not spy on a neighbor. He broke no law he simply refsued to be the governments stoolie. For this my grandmother and granfather get sent to work camps for 6 months. My grandmother has to suffer through countless guards abusing her physically, mentally, and sexually. Two of my mother's cousins where executed for voicing their opinion of the Castro regime. My father had to flee the country for doing the same. My cousin's uncle was beaten to death in plain view of his family for harboring a friend who was wanted by the Castro government. These are just some of the horror stories from one family. Imagine how many others like this are out there. Are these the actions of a hero to you because if they are you are one twisted sick little fucker. I tried to be calm and rational the first time you call this fucking monster a hero, but I can't any long.
oops I will edit it sorry. not sure how happened. has been fixed
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No word can define the level of idiocy you're reaching.
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
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http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0930884.html
Looks like Norway has you WELL beat... Switzerland and Ireland also ahead of ya on Private Donations... I'm actually NOT very very wrong
http://www.esrcsocietytoday.ac.uk/ESRCInfoCentre/facts/international/poverty.aspx?ComponentId=15031&SourcePageId=14912
Same again... scroll down to the bottom table.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Well it is obvious now what is happening here. You are looking at per capita and I was looking at the overall dollar amount. You are correct about the per capita rankings and I am right about the overall dollar amount ranking....so we both win! Plus, I don't like arguing with someone from Ireland. I love Ireland and am planning on going there in '08.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Hope to discuss it over a pint next year then.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
See! You gotta love the Irish.
Pensacola '94
New Orleans '95
Birmingham '98
New Orleans '00
New Orleans '03
Tampa '08
New Orleans '10 - Jazzfest
New Orleans '16 - Jazzfest
Fenway Park '18
St. Louis '22
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Darlin you still need to concede that the US gives the most, by far, of any country based on Dollar Amounts! the dollars that buy medicine and food. Hell Bill Gates, an american, gives more himself then all Arab countries combined.
But then you might actually see some truth for yourself and not have to rely on all the stuff you have had drilled into your head as common knowledge.
Must be tough for all you yanks to actually want to get to Canada to have a vacation down there if it really mattered to ya!
Ok... Well why couldn't you just say that?
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. lawmakers, with an eye on reports of failing health of Cuban President
Fidel Castro, said they intend in the new Democratic-led Congress to seek to ease restrictions on travel and trade with the communist island.
ADVERTISEMENT
The new legislative push coincides with a moment of change in Cuba. Castro, 80, handed power provisionally to his brother, Raul, 75, after undergoing surgery in July. Recent reports suggest Castro suffered complications from the surgery and his recovery has been slow.
The first step would be to allow the 1.2 million Cubans living in the United States to travel to Cuba whenever they want, reversing the restriction to once every three years set by the Bush administration, said Rep. Bill Delahunt, a Democrat from Massachusetts.
"That's going to be my priority," Delahunt told Reuters in a telephone interview on Thursday. He said he was optimistic the legislation could pass this year.
The restrictions imposed by
President George W. Bush also reduced the amount of money Cuban Americans could send to their relatives back home.
These measures divided the Cuban exile community in Miami where the hard-line anti-Castro views of early arrivals have begun to be diluted by more recent migrants with stronger ties to families left behind.
Delahunt and other lawmakers who oppose the U.S. sanctions enforced on Cuba since 1962 are expected to seek to lift restrictions on academic cooperation and trade. Rep. Jose Serrano (news, bio, voting record), a New York Democrat, introduced a bill two weeks ago calling for the lifting of the trade embargo in its entirety.
"The more open we become, the more we demonstrate that we want to have a respectful relationship with Cuba that would be in the best long-term interest of the United States and open political space for the Cuban people to prosper," said Delahunt, one of a group of lawmakers who traveled to Cuba in December. They did not meet either Fidel or Raul Castro.
PRESIDENTIAL VETO?
Republican Rep. Jeff Flake (news, bio, voting record) of Arizona said he wants the ban on travel to Cuba lifted to allow all U.S. citizens, not just Cuban Americans, to travel to the island just 90 miles away from the Florida Keys.
Flake said the travel ban, which can result in fines for those visiting Cuba, had given Fidel Castro a target to rail against.
"We shouldn't give the new government the same advantages we gave the old," Flake said.
Previous attempts to ease restrictions on Cuba have failed in the U.S. House of Representatives, and a leading Republican advocate of a hard line against Cuba said he doubted the new Democratic majority would have the votes to override a veto by Bush.
"At the end of the day, we have the votes and we still have the president," said Rep. Lincoln Diaz-Balart (news, bio, voting record), a Republican from Florida.
In any case, he said his colleagues were merely chipping at the edges of the U.S. embargo and that would not change until Cuba freed political prisoners and held multi-party elections.
"They are looking at trees, not at the forest. The forest is that there will not be normalized relations with the United States, neither the millions of dollars in American tourism, investments and financing that the regime wants," he said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070119/ts_nm/usa_cuba_dc
if anything, I think this is a very good start.
It is a good start, but we really need to lift that embargo. I'm also extremely disappointed in Lincoln Diaz-Balart's stance in this. As a Cuban-American you would think that he would be more concerned with the averge Cuban the embargo is hurting.
No Fidel has two brothers. Raul and Ramon, he is older than Fisel. Ramon was involved in the Revolution but mostly by supplying the troops with food. He is not involved in the Cuban government.