oh yeah, I forgot our glorious country has free speech. Yeah, like when Eddie Vedder in NYC spoke against the war and was booed by thousands of fans who turned their back on him and threw crap at him. Yeah thats freedom of speech.
Or how the Dixie Chicks were and still are banned from many country radio stations for being against the war. I completely forgot how free speech loving we as a nation are!
Or how about how the u.s. treated prisoners in Abu Gharaib. I am sure the u.s. was thinking in free speech terms when u.s. guards were raping 10 year old boys.
thats horrible and the people involved were rightfully sent to jail for a long time.
Look at my thread on sean penn for gods sake. The guy says the wars wrong and Bush should be impeached and thats what people talk about instead of his movies. Free speech, yeah right buddy! Look at what hannity said about Penn!
At least Castro does things to help his own people
give it a rest. you will not be jailed or killed for criticizing bush. you dont even live in america, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
oh yeah, I forgot our glorious country has free speech. Yeah, like when Eddie Vedder in NYC spoke against the war and was booed by thousands of fans who turned their back on him and threw crap at him. Yeah thats freedom of speech. Or how the Dixie Chicks were and still are banned from many country radio stations for being against the war. I completely forgot how free speech loving we as a nation are!
give it a rest. you will not be jailed or killed for criticizing bush. you dont even live in america, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Singapore is a republic with a Westminster system of a unicameral parliamentary government representing different constituencies of Singapore. The bulk of the executive powers rests in the hands of the Cabinet of Singapore, which consists of ministers led by the Prime Minister of Singapore. The office of the President of Singapore was, historically, a ceremonial one as head of state, but the Constitution of Singapore was amended in 1991 to create the position of a popularly elected President and also to grant the President veto powers in a few key decisions such as the use of the national reserves and the appointment of key judiciary positions.The legislative branch of government is the Parliament. Parliamentary elections in Singapore are plurality-based for group representation constituencies since the Parliamentary Elections Act was modified in 1991.
im not interested becuase having a dictator take away choices and freedoms of people is bad. people, human beings, only deserve one fate and thats freedom
wrong again, I dont work for a oil company. I work for a trading company. and I absolutely NEVER see myself being president. amazing how wrong you are..
really? kinda like swimming across the ocean to escape? we give more aid then any other country in the world, BY FAR. cuba is so special becuase its 80 miles off the coast of america.
Eh no you don't... per head of population FAR from it.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
If you want them to be free and have choice, then why would you make a statement about 'forcing' something on them. You do see the fallacy in your statement, right? If the cuban people WANTED another dictator, would you attack them and impose your will on them? That's taking THEIR choice away and is the furthest thing from 'freedom'. I would hope they would choose wisely, but ultimately, it's not my choice to make.
if given the choice, would any human, choose freedom or choose a dictator?
I know what I would choose, but I'm not going to impose my choice on others. There are a lot of countries that do not like the 'choices' of the US. I don't think any American would want said country to impose their will on them.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
What part of "we give more aid than any other country, BY FAR" did you not understand?
Eh... ANY of it... cos it's wrong
What part of MY post TELLING you you're wrong don't you understand... the facts and figures are there! Pretty straightforward.
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Not necessarily but it has been for the people there.
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Singapore, a highly-developed and successful free-market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the four largest West European countries.
The fledgling nation had to become self-sufficient, and faced problems including mass unemployment, housing shortages and lack of land and natural resources such as petroleum. During Lee Kuan Yew's term as prime minister from 1959 to 1990, his administration curbed unemployment, raised the standard of living and implemented a large-scale public housing programme. The country's economic infrastructure was developed, the threat of racial tension was eliminated and an independent national defence system was created. Singapore evolved from a developing nation to a global city with first world status towards the end of the 20th century.
In dollars and cents. its true. america, by far, gives the most.
eh... no, it's NOT true Jesus, I give you the FACTS and I'm still wrong! :rolleyes:
Where are you getting this 'fact' of yours then? Please educate me, I'd love to know!
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
The fledgling nation had to become self-sufficient, and faced problems including mass unemployment, housing shortages and lack of land and natural resources such as petroleum. During Lee Kuan Yew's term as prime minister from 1959 to 1990, his administration curbed unemployment, raised the standard of living and implemented a large-scale public housing programme. The country's economic infrastructure was developed, the threat of racial tension was eliminated and an independent national defence system was created. Singapore evolved from a developing nation to a global city with first world status towards the end of the 20th century.
sounds great. but what happens if someone opposes the government? are people forced to watch state run tv? is there freedom of speech? freedom of religion? with any dictatorship peoples freedoms are limited in some way, which is bad. but thats just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong
What will happen when Castro dies? will things change? how is his brother?
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Cuba will eventually become a State, if not the 51st, then the 52nd behind Puerto Rico. If Cuba becomes a State before Puerto Rico the U.S. will not have a need for Puerto Rico, even as a commonwealth. The Canal is outdated, they pay no federal taxes, and, can not support our military requirements. Puerto Rico will become just another island nation.
Cuba is strategically more vital to us by location and resources. It would be stupid not to open up the diplomatic channels immediately with Cuba. It would be stupid not offer them Statehood, in a respectable timeframe after Castro passes. The U.S. can not afford to let this opportunity pass.
If done CORRECTLY, I don't see a lot of opposition from his brother or the Cuban people.
SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
eh... no, it's NOT true Jesus, I give you the FACTS and I'm still wrong! :rolleyes:
Where are you getting this 'fact' of yours then? Please educate me, I'd love to know!
Net Official Development Assistance in 2005 as US dollar amounts (millions)Country Aid amount by dollars
USA 27,457
Japan 13,101
UK 10,754
France 10,059
Germany 9,915
Netherlands 5,131
Italy 5,053
Canada 3,731
Sweden 3,280
Spain 3,123
Norway 2,775
Denmark 2,107
Belgium 1,975
Switzerland 1,771
Australia 1,666
Austria 1,552
Finland 897
Ireland 692
Greece 535
Portugal 367
New Zealand 274
Cuba will eventually become a State, if not the 51st, then the 52nd behind Puerto Rico. If Cuba becomes a State before Puerto Rico the U.S. will not have a need for Puerto Rico, even as a commonwealth. The Canal is outdated, they pay no federal taxes, and, can not support our military requirements. Puerto Rico will become just another island nation.
Cuba is strategically more vital to us by location and resources. It would be stupid not to open up the diplomatic channels immediately with Cuba. It would be stupid not offer them Statehood, in a respectable timeframe after Castro passes. The U.S. can not afford to let this opportunity pass.
If done CORRECTLY, I don't see a lot of opposition from his brother or the Cuban people.
wow really? I sure hope not. I want Cuba to be an independent nation.
sounds great. but what happens if someone opposes the government? are people forced to watch state run tv? is there freedom of speech? freedom of religion? with any dictatorship peoples freedoms are limited in some way, which is bad. but thats just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong
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radio stations can ban whoever they want. people are allowed to have an opinion. thats freedom
thats horrible and the people involved were rightfully sent to jail for a long time.
who was?
you just gave an example of free speech
holy fuck this just keep getting better. name me a "good" one.
you know, forget it. im not interested
give it a rest. you will not be jailed or killed for criticizing bush. you dont even live in america, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Singapore. You're not interested? Why not?
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Right or wrong all of this is free speech.
You don't live in Cuba...:rolleyes:
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Singapore is a republic with a Westminster system of a unicameral parliamentary government representing different constituencies of Singapore. The bulk of the executive powers rests in the hands of the Cabinet of Singapore, which consists of ministers led by the Prime Minister of Singapore. The office of the President of Singapore was, historically, a ceremonial one as head of state, but the Constitution of Singapore was amended in 1991 to create the position of a popularly elected President and also to grant the President veto powers in a few key decisions such as the use of the national reserves and the appointment of key judiciary positions.The legislative branch of government is the Parliament. Parliamentary elections in Singapore are plurality-based for group representation constituencies since the Parliamentary Elections Act was modified in 1991.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore
im not interested becuase having a dictator take away choices and freedoms of people is bad. people, human beings, only deserve one fate and thats freedom
touche
I'm not saying it's a good thing or that people enjoy equal freedoms in Cuba as western countries, though.
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Yep... Spain, Italy, Malta, Cyprus... Africans float up every day.
Ok well I took you up wrong then, I apologise.
Eh no you don't... per head of population FAR from it.
Per capita, US is no. 20
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_percap-economic-aid-donor-per-capita
Per GDP US is no. 23
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_eco_aid_don_pergdp-economic-aid-donor-per-gdp
Note we're in the top ten on both lists
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
Hey, just like Iraq! Saddam even won his final re-election with 99% of the vote!
Man, being a nieve idiot is even easier than I thought!
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
What part of "we give more aid than any other country, BY FAR" did you not understand?
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
A. Its not a democracy when someone holds a gun to your head and tells you who to vote for.
B. Calling someone a nieve idiot shows that you just got pwned in an argument and can't come up with anything better to say.
hey im not saying singapore is free. honestly I dont know, I have never been there.
I imagine it's a lot like Miami...
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
If you want them to be free and have choice, then why would you make a statement about 'forcing' something on them. You do see the fallacy in your statement, right? If the cuban people WANTED another dictator, would you attack them and impose your will on them? That's taking THEIR choice away and is the furthest thing from 'freedom'. I would hope they would choose wisely, but ultimately, it's not my choice to make.
I know what I would choose, but I'm not going to impose my choice on others. There are a lot of countries that do not like the 'choices' of the US. I don't think any American would want said country to impose their will on them.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
The people's action party in Singapore has been ruling since 1959. That's 48 years.
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super. and you say thats a good thing?
What part of MY post TELLING you you're wrong don't you understand... the facts and figures are there! Pretty straightforward.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
In dollars and cents. its true. america, by far, gives the most.
Not necessarily but it has been for the people there.
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Singapore, a highly-developed and successful free-market economy, enjoys a remarkably open and corruption-free environment, stable prices, and a per capita GDP equal to that of the four largest West European countries.
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I'm not so sure about that.
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Where are you getting this 'fact' of yours then? Please educate me, I'd love to know!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
sounds great. but what happens if someone opposes the government? are people forced to watch state run tv? is there freedom of speech? freedom of religion? with any dictatorship peoples freedoms are limited in some way, which is bad. but thats just my opinion, maybe I'm wrong
Cuba will eventually become a State, if not the 51st, then the 52nd behind Puerto Rico. If Cuba becomes a State before Puerto Rico the U.S. will not have a need for Puerto Rico, even as a commonwealth. The Canal is outdated, they pay no federal taxes, and, can not support our military requirements. Puerto Rico will become just another island nation.
Cuba is strategically more vital to us by location and resources. It would be stupid not to open up the diplomatic channels immediately with Cuba. It would be stupid not offer them Statehood, in a respectable timeframe after Castro passes. The U.S. can not afford to let this opportunity pass.
If done CORRECTLY, I don't see a lot of opposition from his brother or the Cuban people.
Net Official Development Assistance in 2005 as US dollar amounts (millions)Country Aid amount by dollars
USA 27,457
Japan 13,101
UK 10,754
France 10,059
Germany 9,915
Netherlands 5,131
Italy 5,053
Canada 3,731
Sweden 3,280
Spain 3,123
Norway 2,775
Denmark 2,107
Belgium 1,975
Switzerland 1,771
Australia 1,666
Austria 1,552
Finland 897
Ireland 692
Greece 535
Portugal 367
New Zealand 274
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp#ForeignAidNumbersinChartsandGraphs
wow really? I sure hope not. I want Cuba to be an independent nation.
http://www.sustainer.org/dhm_archive/search.php/?display_article=vn210singaporeed
It's an interesting read.
But this thread isn't about Singapore so I suggest we let it rest.
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