Castro reportedly in 'grave' condition

ThumbingMyWay32

angelica wrote:

First you say "what does this mean?". Then you overlook your uncertainty and go on to interpret what my opinion actually is, uncertain of what my opinion is. Inaccurately, no less. Oh, and the liberal part is inaccurate too. I'm a person with a wide ranging view point, even within topics--such as this one--meaning I range on both sides of this issue in different ways, which is backed up in many of my posts, if you were to know anything about me. That you are uninterested in understanding what I'm saying tells me a lot about the potential of this line of discussion.


You would save yourself time if you would ask what I mean and wait for clarification from me before revealing your inaccurate assumptions about me. It's pretty clear you want to vent regarding your preconceptions, so have at it. That's not about me, or my opinions as much as you'd like to make it that way.



Assumptions and condescension do not make for legitmate points.

Blah blah blah. No one on this forum is a liberal; I get it already.

And two, you are correct. I'm really not interested in anything anyone says here. It's the same regurgitated topics over and over and over. I just enjoy dropping in from time to time to annoy people like you. A famous man once said, “I don't know what this means. I don't think it means anything.”

jlew24asu

so anyway.................























what, if anything, will happen when Castro dies??

angelica

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Blah blah blah. No one on this forum is a liberal; I get it already.

You've already shown many people who are reading this how you base your view on false assumptions. And that is beyond those who actually know what I stand behind. Therefore you are revealing only your own prejudice and judgment. Suit yourself.

And two, you are correct. I'm really not interested in anything anyone says here. It's the same regurgitated topics over and over and over. I just enjoy dropping in from time to time to annoy people like you. A famous man once said, “I don't know what this means. I don't think it means anything.”

Condescension, ignorance and the intent to self-sabotage under the guise of "annoying others" doesn't fall on me, until I condescend, ignore and self-sabotage.

ThumbingMyWay32

jlew24asu wrote:

so anyway.................























what, if anything, will happen when Castro dies??

That's easy. The Yankees will get their pitching. Given he croaks before camp opens.

inmytree

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Well, I had toilet paper this morning, which was definately a positive.

are you saying you have a hard time keeping toilet paper stocked in your trailer...I guess that is good news...

I think...

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Uplifting? Maybe... The Panthers fired offensive coordinator Dan Henning yesterday, which was great. Two missing boys were found alive in MS after their kidnapper was arrested.

LOL Are you really challenging me to find things that are uplifting and positive in America?

wow, you were up to the "challenge"...great job...

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I have a go-cart track just a few miles down the road. How cool is that?

I guess it would be cool....if you were under the age of 12...or if your name is Corky...

angelica

inmytree wrote:

I guess it would be cool....if you were under the age of 12...or if your name is Corky...

ThumbingMyWay32

angelica wrote:

You've already shown many people who are reading this how you base your view on false assumptions. And that is beyond those who actually know what I stand behind. Therefore you are revealing only your own prejudice and judgment. Suit yourself.


Condescension, ignorance and the intent to self-sabotage under the guise of "annoying others" doesn't fall on me, until I condescend, ignore and self-sabotage.

Sentimentalities.

ThumbingMyWay32

inmytree wrote:

are you saying you have a hard time keeping toilet paper stocked in your trailer...I guess that is good news...

I think...



wow, you were up to the "challenge"...great job...



I guess it would be cool....if you were under the age of 12...or if your name is Corky...

Please refer to angelica's post about false assumptions.

I lied about the go-cart track, though your effort is appreciated.

Hey! We're both Libras!

inmytree

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Please refer to angelica's post about false assumptions.

I lied about the go-cart track, though your effort is appreciated.

um, you lie and then scold me about false assumptions...

interesting...

ThumbingMyWay32

inmytree wrote:

um, you lie and then scold me about false assumptions...

interesting...

No. You're trailer remark. I'm crying.

MrBrian

soulsinging wrote:

that's 2004 dude. i was talking about 2000, when it was gore against bush. this country would be so much better off today if they'd kept nader off the ballot that year. granted, the dems still ran a poor campaign, but that doesn't mean gore woulda been a poor president. he's certainly better than kerry woulda been and better than bush has been.

But again, it's not right to keep a person off the ballot so the "other guy" may have a better chance. It's just wrong.

Nader was different, he was unlike Bush or Gore, he was a great candidate. that's why he got votes, well even then not that many compared to Bush and Gore. also naders running did'nt sway the election. Florida did.

If Gore wanted Naders votes, he should've taken up the issues nader was taking on, same with kerry, but they refused. How can you blame nader for that, Nader even told them what issues to take on! they ignored him dude.

But I won't argue about how gore would've been better than Bush, but I think america needed Bush, many many more americans now understand more about politics because of that idiot bush, they see how bad the country is now and they educate themselves on the reasons. perhaps for a better future.

RockinInCanada

MrBrian wrote:

But I won't argue about how gore would've been better than Bush, but I think america needed Bush, many many more americans now understand more about politics because of that idiot bush, they see how bad the country is now and they educate themselves on the reasons. perhaps for a better future.

Very....very....optimistic way of looking at things....I like it.....take the smallest grain of positive you can find in a heaping pile of shit.....but at least there is a postive.......

enharmonic

That's a shame. I hope that he doesn't suffer.

mammasan

I will tell you what will happen once Castro dies. NOTHING. His brother Raul will take over leadership of the government. No change what so ever. There will be no free elections. Raul is not the tyrant Fidel is so an opportunity for small change does exist, but it cannot be forced upon the country. What really needs to happen is first the US need to lift the embargo. The US needs to open up diplomatic relations with Cuba and hope that through these channels the Cuban government will start to incorporate democracy. Rice's comment is a bit unsettling and not because I don't think that Cuban deserve a democratic government but because it seems that the US wants to impose it's will on Cuba. Cuba has had outside government impose their will on it for far to long. Offer some incentives to the Cuban government to change and then let it make the decisions.

ThumbingMyWay32

mammasan wrote:

I will tell you what will happen once Castro dies. NOTHING. His brother Raul will take over leadership of the government. No change what so ever. There will be no free elections. Raul is not the tyrant Fidel is so an opportunity for small change does exist, but it cannot be forced upon the country. What really needs to happen is first the US need to lift the embargo. The US needs to open up diplomatic relations with Cuba and hope that through these channels the Cuban government will start to incorporate democracy. Rice's comment is a bit unsettling and not because I don't think that Cuban deserve a democratic government but because it seems that the US wants to impose it's will on Cuba. Cuba has had outside government impose their will on it for far to long. Offer some incentives to the Cuban government to change and then let it make the decisions.

I'm not above having talks with Raul assuming he takes power after Fidel's death. But to suggest we should open up to a country who once agreed to house nuclear weapons aimed at American cities is silly. The leadership has not changed since those times. Their political bearings are still the same. Hell, we let the guy come to Yankee stadium... Shouldn't the ball be on someone elses side of the court for once?

mammasan

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

I'm not above having talks with Raul assuming he takes power after Fidel's death. But to suggest we should open up to a country who once agreed to house nuclear weapons aimed at American cities is silly. The leadership has not changed since those times. Their political bearings are still the same. Hell, we let the guy come to Yankee stadium... Shouldn't the ball be on someone elses side of the court for once?

The threat of Soviet Missles in Cuba has come and gone. The Cold War ended almost 2 decades ago. It's time to lay this grudge to bed. Cuba is no longer a threat to our national security so it is time to lift the embargo and open up diplomatic relations with them. If the US government is sincere about seeing democracy take hold in that country this is the first step that needs to be taken.

ThumbingMyWay32

mammasan wrote:

The threat of Soviet Missles in Cuba has come and gone. The Cold War ended almost 2 decades ago. It's time to lay this grudge to bed. Cuba is no longer a threat to our national security so it is time to lift the embargo and open up diplomatic relations with them. If the US government is sincere about seeing democracy take hold in that country this is the first step that needs to be taken.

It's open for debate... And I would certainly agree that Cuba isn't a threat militarily to us at the present time. But what happens if Iran becomes a nuclear power and tries to do the same thing to us?

Just me personally, I tend to hold a grudge for a while when a country just 90 miles from our shores tries to make a statement by pointing nukes at us. I'd even venture to say it was a pretty bold statement at that.

mammasan

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

It's open for debate... And I would certainly agree that Cuba isn't a threat militarily to us at the present time. But what happens if Iran becomes a nuclear power and tries to do the same thing to us?

Just me personally, I tend to hold a grudge for a while when a country just 90 miles from our shores tries to make a statement by pointing nukes at us. I'd even venture to say it was a pretty bold statement at that.

Did you ever take into consideration the events that led to said country pointing missles at us.

ThumbingMyWay32

mammasan wrote:

Did you ever take into consideration the events that led to said country pointing missles at us.

Yep. You reap what you sow. So what?

mammasan

ThumbingMyWay32 wrote:

Yep. You reap what you sow. So what?

No. The Eisenhower administration actually supported Castro's over throw of Batista. When Castro took control of Cuba he had no animosity toward the US. He simply did not want US corporations like United Fruit reaping all the rewards of the hard work of Cuban workers. It wasn't untill Cuban exiles in the US, who made money off of Batista's corruption and expoitation of his own people, starting lobbying in Washington with the help of companies like United Fruit that our government did an about face on it's feelings toward Castro. The relationship between Cuba and the US went sour and the US started engaging in covert hostile actions against the Cuban government. It was at this point that Castro turned to the other superpower to help him. I'm not a huge fan of Castro, my entire family suffered under his rule and several people in my family died because of him, but we instigated hostilities toward him not the other way around.