I say, get it over with. Pay it out with one stipulation... no more blaming your personal situation on events from the distant past.
If you take the reparations that your ancestors deserve and waste it away on a pimped out Escalade and eventually end up is the same place you are today... that's YOUR fault and you can no longer blame the White Devil for all of your problems.
This makes me laugh. If you inherit money from a dead relative. You, Cosmo, can spend it however the fuck you want! Its your fucking money! It has nothing to do with personal situations or trying to correct them with money! I don't see whats so hard to see about that.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Has nothing to do with it. Reparations would be paid by the government. It isn't like there would be an extra deduction from YOUR paycheck. And, as far as taxes go, I covered that in an earlier post.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Has nothing to do with it. Reparations would be paid by the government. It isn't like there would be an extra deduction from YOUR paycheck. And, as far as taxes go, I covered that in an earlier post.
I have Lakota Sioux ancestors....Where's my fucking money?
Get this my g/f is 1/16 Metis and she has the majority of her education paid for AND she gets to ahead to the front of the line IN ANY post secondary education where there is a waiting list...crazy but if the opportunity is there why not use it...I guess even though we both think it is BS....
When I am paid to come up with an official plan, I will do so. A damn good one. What does my plan have to do with whether or not reparations is a fair concept. The initial purpose of this thread.
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
my tax dollars better not go towards it, I never owned a slave and nor did my ancestors. Some of them were lucky enough to die for the North "freeing the slaves." So I guess Kobe Bryant owes me a check. Along with the Italians for killing all those Christians, and for commiting genocide throughout Europe and the Med. I would then lose that money in an American Indian casino, thus completing the circle of life.
When I am paid to come up with an official plan, I will do so. A damn good one. What does my plan have to do with whether or not reparations is a fair concept. The initial purpose of this thread.
Well first because a well thought out plan can sometimes make people change their opinion...your saying we need to do this...people are saying no it makes no sense...as a supporter of it you should have a plan to convince those that it makes sense and it can work...because if you read the responses most feel that they shoudl not have to pay...you need to answer those comments...saying how the current rich should be delagated to BK does not prove you have a plan regardless if it was a loose statement...Im a compromising person and would love to here a plan...you might just convince me...badgering me with its the right thing to do will not work...proving to me how a plan like the one you propose can work could go a long way...personally I have changed my mind about many things...
I woud also say if you get the reparations you have to go back to the land you were stolen from, thus proving that you actually felt wronged, not just wanting a hand out.
The opportunity to rape a baby is there too. I would hope you wouldn't do that.
That said, I don't completely blame those who take these kinds of benefits. I primarily blame those who grant them.
Yeah but that is not a LEGAL opportunity...this is a written law....big difference....the government screws us over daily...why cannot I at least do it once in my life to screw them over....
my tax dollars better not go towards it, I never owned a slave and nor did my ancestors. Some of them were lucky enough to die for the North "freeing the slaves."
This is not:
So I guess Kobe Bryant owes me a check. Along with the Italians for killing all those Christians, and for commiting genocide throughout Europe and the Med.
This is funny:
I would then lose that money in an American Indian casino, thus completing the circle of life.
True. How about this one: you have the opportunity to cheat on your spouse. I would hope you wouldn't do it just because you have the opportunity.
You're not screwing over the government. You're screwing over every other person on this board.
Considering divorce law would make me broke I view it as being monetary illegal if that makes any sense plus I would never cheat on anyone regardless if I was married to them or not..answer me this education for free or at the end $30,000 student loan....BTW its not me doing this I have no Native in me....I pay my way through....plus i am 100% against these benefits....and would gladly see them disappaited...at least in Canada we did not make it an issue to exterminate the Natives...HEY there you go another group that should get money....new question shoudl Native Americans in teh States receive money...hell they were slaughterd...they were not even slaves...
Its not a matter of applying todays morals to yesterdays actions. Its money owed to people unable to claim it on account of them being dead. That means the money is passed on to the living heirs. I ask again if your ancestors had been owed a bunch of ends, but were now dead, would you, their living heir, be o.k with being told to "move on".
There was no money earned though. To think there was money earned by the slaves you are applying today's morals and standards to yesterday's events. What was done was legal and the moral norm for that time. Would the slave owner's get to charge back rent, food, health care, clothing, etc....? Does the IRS get to fine the ancestors for none payment of taxes?
If you get a speeding ticket for going 50 in a 30 zone then 10 years from now that same street is made into a highway, do you get to ask for the fine money back?
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I woud also say if you get the reparations you have to go back to the land you were stolen from, thus proving that you actually felt wronged, not just wanting a hand out.
You people kill me sometimes! We're talking about alot more than just paying for past injustices. We have hundreds of thousands of people for about a couple of hundred years working from the time they could see in the morning until the time they could not possibly see at night, seven days a week. TOTALLY UNCOMPENSATED. Thats more than just an injustice. That, my friends, is alot of fucking backpay! An inheritance is categorized differntly than a fucking handout! One more time, if your ancestors had, or were owed, alot of money, you, their living heir, would want your money, and not consider it a fucking handout!
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
Considering divorce law would make me broke I view it as being monetary illegal if that makes any sense plus I would never cheat on anyone regardless if I was married to them or not..answer me this education for free or at the end $30,000 student loan....BTW its not me doing this I have no Native in me....I pay my way through....plus i am 100% against these benefits....and would gladly see them disappaited...at least in Canada we did not make it an issue to exterminate the Natives...HEY there you go another group that should get money....new question shoudl Native Americans in teh States receive money...hell they were slaughterd...they were not even slaves...
combine free education with affirmitive action and you would have the ultimate down with whitey plan.
You people kill me sometimes! We're talking about alot more than just paying for past injustices. We have hundreds of thousands of people for about a couple of hundred years working from the time they could see in the morning until the time they could not possibly see at night, seven days a week. TOTALLY UNCOMPENSATED. Thats more than just an injustice. That, my friends, is alot of fucking backpay! An inheritance is categorized differntly than a fucking handout! One more time, if your ancestors had, or were owed, alot of money, you, their living heir, would want your money, and not consider it a fucking handout!
combine free education with affirmitive action and you would have the ultimate down with whitey plan.
Happens up here but sadly Native American enrollment in post secondary education is pathetic...which is more sad because they HAVE A LEG UP on the regular person...they should take advantage of it and they don't then I get racist remarks from them for their crappy lives...pisses me off...and my Native friends get irrate with these people...
Considering divorce law would make me broke I view it as being monetary illegal if that makes any sense plus I would never cheat on anyone regardless if I was married to them or not..answer me this education for free or at the end $30,000 student loan....BTW its not me doing this I have no Native in me....I pay my way through....plus i am 100% against these benefits....
If you are 100% against these benefits, then we agree (crazy hypotheticals aside). If your GF has paid $30,000 in taxes, then I have no problem with her taking this money. Otherwise, I consider it stealing from your neighbors.
and would gladly see them disappaited...at least in Canada we did not make it an issue to exterminate the Natives...HEY there you go another group that should get money....new question shoudl Native Americans in teh States receive money...hell they were slaughterd...they were not even slaves...
No. Native Americans in America should not receive any money from any one who played no part in exterminating them. Native Americans should receive an apology and the complete destruction of the United States government.
If you are 100% against these benefits, then we agree (crazy hypotheticals aside). If your GF has paid $30,000 in taxes, then I have no problem with her taking this money. Otherwise, I consider it stealing from your neighbors.
No. Native Americans in America should not receive any money from any one who played no part in exterminating them. Native Americans should receive an apology and the complete destruction of the United States government.
Well thats the thing give money to slave ancestors then the next group will come next and then the next group...soon you will have illegal immigrants demanding money for some stupid reason...j/k about the immigrants...and yes she does have to pay taxes and its percetnage of your education...if your 1/2 Native or full all education is 100% free...
Correction: There was ALOT of money earned. There was absolutely no money PAID.
No, there was a lot of work done but no money earned. Show me a contract or employmentagreement that a single slave had where they earned money but did not get paid.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
No offense, were both friends, but would you be willing to give your annual salary to another person in order to compensate them for their ancestors past difficulties...and if so...what if that person that you're giving your money to was a worthless, lazy, drug dealing punk that never wanted to earn a dime in his life? Does he deserve your annual salary because some asshole fucked over his great grandfather X10 250 years ago?!
Seriously my friend...
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It wont work...here in Canada where Native Americans pay NO taxes, get monthly government cheques, university/college is free (this has only been going for lets say 100+ years)....the majority still blame the white man for their misery...actually I tend to blame the free hand-outs its created an unhealthy dependance on the system....my friends who are Natives also think the same they went to school, succeeded just like everyone else...even they can see the problem and they are Native....
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That's because Canada didn't do it right. Cut the fucking check, have them sign the receipt and say, "That's it. Now, quit blaming all of your addictions and problems on someone else".
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if any people alive today were slaves during the early part of our countries history they are entitled to money. If not, no deal... it's not complicated.
That's probably my best condensed version. I'm Irish-American. My ancestors were treated worse than slaves. Seriously, look into it. I'm not asking for reparations here.
No, there was a lot of work done but no money earned. Show me a contract or employmentagreement that a single slave had where they earned money but did not get paid.
Contract of employment agreement? Are you kidding me!?
*pounds head to bloody pulp*
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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This makes me laugh. If you inherit money from a dead relative. You, Cosmo, can spend it however the fuck you want! Its your fucking money! It has nothing to do with personal situations or trying to correct them with money! I don't see whats so hard to see about that.
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I think I'd rather smother
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Has nothing to do with it. Reparations would be paid by the government. It isn't like there would be an extra deduction from YOUR paycheck. And, as far as taxes go, I covered that in an earlier post.
Whats your plan to do this?
Get this my g/f is 1/16 Metis and she has the majority of her education paid for AND she gets to ahead to the front of the line IN ANY post secondary education where there is a waiting list...crazy but if the opportunity is there why not use it...I guess even though we both think it is BS....
When I am paid to come up with an official plan, I will do so. A damn good one. What does my plan have to do with whether or not reparations is a fair concept. The initial purpose of this thread.
The opportunity to rape a baby is there too. I would hope you wouldn't do that.
That said, I don't completely blame those who take these kinds of benefits. I primarily blame those who grant them.
Well first because a well thought out plan can sometimes make people change their opinion...your saying we need to do this...people are saying no it makes no sense...as a supporter of it you should have a plan to convince those that it makes sense and it can work...because if you read the responses most feel that they shoudl not have to pay...you need to answer those comments...saying how the current rich should be delagated to BK does not prove you have a plan regardless if it was a loose statement...Im a compromising person and would love to here a plan...you might just convince me...badgering me with its the right thing to do will not work...proving to me how a plan like the one you propose can work could go a long way...personally I have changed my mind about many things...
Yeah but that is not a LEGAL opportunity...this is a written law....big difference....the government screws us over daily...why cannot I at least do it once in my life to screw them over....
This is not:
This is funny:
True. How about this one: you have the opportunity to cheat on your spouse. I would hope you wouldn't do it just because you have the opportunity.
You're not screwing over the government. You're screwing over every other person on this board.
Considering divorce law would make me broke I view it as being monetary illegal if that makes any sense plus I would never cheat on anyone regardless if I was married to them or not..answer me this education for free or at the end $30,000 student loan....BTW its not me doing this I have no Native in me....I pay my way through....plus i am 100% against these benefits....and would gladly see them disappaited...at least in Canada we did not make it an issue to exterminate the Natives...HEY there you go another group that should get money....new question shoudl Native Americans in teh States receive money...hell they were slaughterd...they were not even slaves...
If you get a speeding ticket for going 50 in a 30 zone then 10 years from now that same street is made into a highway, do you get to ask for the fine money back?
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
You people kill me sometimes! We're talking about alot more than just paying for past injustices. We have hundreds of thousands of people for about a couple of hundred years working from the time they could see in the morning until the time they could not possibly see at night, seven days a week. TOTALLY UNCOMPENSATED. Thats more than just an injustice. That, my friends, is alot of fucking backpay! An inheritance is categorized differntly than a fucking handout! One more time, if your ancestors had, or were owed, alot of money, you, their living heir, would want your money, and not consider it a fucking handout!
combine free education with affirmitive action and you would have the ultimate down with whitey plan.
you can't inherit something that never existed!
Happens up here but sadly Native American enrollment in post secondary education is pathetic...which is more sad because they HAVE A LEG UP on the regular person...they should take advantage of it and they don't then I get racist remarks from them for their crappy lives...pisses me off...and my Native friends get irrate with these people...
If you are 100% against these benefits, then we agree (crazy hypotheticals aside). If your GF has paid $30,000 in taxes, then I have no problem with her taking this money. Otherwise, I consider it stealing from your neighbors.
No. Native Americans in America should not receive any money from any one who played no part in exterminating them. Native Americans should receive an apology and the complete destruction of the United States government.
Not in America!!!!!!
Doh! Doh! Doh!
*pounds head*
Correction: There was ALOT of money earned. There was absolutely no money PAID.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Exactly....
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No offense, were both friends, but would you be willing to give your annual salary to another person in order to compensate them for their ancestors past difficulties...and if so...what if that person that you're giving your money to was a worthless, lazy, drug dealing punk that never wanted to earn a dime in his life? Does he deserve your annual salary because some asshole fucked over his great grandfather X10 250 years ago?!
Seriously my friend...
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That's because Canada didn't do it right. Cut the fucking check, have them sign the receipt and say, "That's it. Now, quit blaming all of your addictions and problems on someone else".
Hail, Hail!!!
That's probably my best condensed version. I'm Irish-American. My ancestors were treated worse than slaves. Seriously, look into it. I'm not asking for reparations here.
Contract of employment agreement? Are you kidding me!?
*pounds head to bloody pulp*