Study: Warming is stronger, happening sooner

Yoyoyo

jlew24asu wrote:

many people suffer from the same disease you have, its ok

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex

I should take some meds for that I guess! Where did you get your psychiatry degree from?

Yoyoyo

Pj_Gurl wrote:

he also had an opportunity to go back and edit what he had had so unfairly attacked me for when he did that last post and he chose not to.

again, i am sorry to hear that onelongsong is sick. i hope that that the surgery is successful. i mean that with all sincerity.

being ill is no excuse to be an ass. i am not going to sit back and say, 'wait, that person is sick, its' ok to attack me'.

It sucks to knock people's crutches out from under them, but you gotta do it. The hard part is not laughing.

Anon

Mestophar wrote:

It sucks to knock people's crutches out from under them, but you gotta do it. The hard part is not laughing.

i'm a critical care paramedic. sick people do not make me laugh. trust me.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

Are Arabs considered white people? its all so vague

Cosmo

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Do you mean our solar systems orbit around the Milky way galaxy maybe? I understand that the Earths orbit around the sun is not perfect, and that different variations can occur over thousands, even millions of years, but closer to the sun or not, it takes Earth one year to make one complete orbit around our sun. That fact alone is what our calendar is based off of. It's what a year is based off of.

A few weeks ago I learned how the Mayan calendars worked. They actually made much more sense and related to humans and how we calculate time much better than basing our dates on the time it takes the Earth to go around the sun.

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I think the guy is try to explain something called 'precession'. This is the 'wobble' of the Earth axis. He's just not very good in astronomy.
anyway, precession is like the motion a spinning top makes. If you were, for example, to chart the path of the north point of the axis on that spinning top, it would trace out a circle (which is an ellipse with a single focal and equal radius).
The Earth is spinning in a similar manner... being the axis is not fixed. The Earth's little circle takes about 26,000 years to complete one rotation. It's still spinning at one revolution per 24 hours and completing one revolution around the Sun in about 356.4 days... but, it is also wobbling at a rate of one revolution per 26,000 years.
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That being said... we won't see the seasons flip (Summer in December, Winter in July for another 12,000 years... not 4 as OLS predicts) due to precession. We will see noted changes in our weather in about 3,000 years.
Any of the changes in our weather today and in the coming years will be due to changes in our atmosphere, not celestrial motion.
And OLS also brought up the Permian Extinction that occurred 250 million years ago. The Earth was a completely different planet back then and events on the surface impacted the atmosphere... the Siberian Earth fart that killed off about 95% of all life on the planet back then... again, due to events on the surface, not from the movement of the planets.

brain of c

810wmb wrote:

death is coming, try to find God!

did you look behind the couch?

Cosmo

Jeanie wrote:

Now I'm confused. Who's the rattlesnake???

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I don't care... i'll be the rattlesnake. I like rattlesnakes... I think they are kinda cool.
The only other thing I would want... if I was a rattle snake... wings... and bullet proof armour... and the ability to shoot fire... and the power of invisability.

brain of c

Cosmo wrote:

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I don't care... i'll be the rattlesnake. I like rattlesnakes... I think they are kinda cool.
The only other thing I would want... if I was a rattle snake... wings... and bullet proof armour... and the ability to shoot fire... and the power of invisability.

greedy.

Cosmo

brain of c wrote:

greedy.

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Yeah, I know... but, come on... who wouldn't want to be a flying, invisable, fire-breathing rattlesnake with bulletproof armour?

baraka

Cosmo wrote:

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I think the guy is try to explain something called 'precession'. This is the 'wobble' of the Earth axis. He's just not very good in astronomy.
anyway, precession is like the motion a spinning top makes. If you were, for example, to chart the path of the north point of the axis on that spinning top, it would trace out a circle (which is an ellipse with a single focal and equal radius).
The Earth is spinning in a similar manner... being the axis is not fixed. The Earth's little circle takes about 26,000 years to complete one rotation. It's still spinning at one revolution per 24 hours and completing one revolution around the Sun in about 356.4 days... but, it is also wobbling at a rate of one revolution per 26,000 years.
...
That being said... we won't see the seasons flip (Summer in December, Winter in July for another 12,000 years... not 4 as OLS predicts) due to precession. We will see noted changes in our weather in about 3,000 years.
Any of the changes in our weather today and in the coming years will be due to changes in our atmosphere, not celestrial motion.
And OLS also brought up the Permian Extinction that occurred 250 million years ago. The Earth was a completely different planet back then and events on the surface impacted the atmosphere... the Siberian Earth fart that killed off about 95% of all life on the planet back then... again, due to events on the surface, not from the movement of the planets.

Very interesting Cosmo! I was thinking precession myself. Also this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycle

Very interesting, and complicated stuff!

Also, I was wondering if anyone has read or heard about the climate epoch anthropocene? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropocene

LikeAnOcean

Cosmo wrote:

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I think the guy is try to explain something called 'precession'. This is the 'wobble' of the Earth axis. He's just not very good in astronomy.
anyway, precession is like the motion a spinning top makes. If you were, for example, to chart the path of the north point of the axis on that spinning top, it would trace out a circle (which is an ellipse with a single focal and equal radius).
The Earth is spinning in a similar manner... being the axis is not fixed. The Earth's little circle takes about 26,000 years to complete one rotation. It's still spinning at one revolution per 24 hours and completing one revolution around the Sun in about 356.4 days... but, it is also wobbling at a rate of one revolution per 26,000 years.
...
That being said... we won't see the seasons flip (Summer in December, Winter in July for another 12,000 years... not 4 as OLS predicts) due to precession. We will see noted changes in our weather in about 3,000 years.
Any of the changes in our weather today and in the coming years will be due to changes in our atmosphere, not celestrial motion.
And OLS also brought up the Permian Extinction that occurred 250 million years ago. The Earth was a completely different planet back then and events on the surface impacted the atmosphere... the Siberian Earth fart that killed off about 95% of all life on the planet back then... again, due to events on the surface, not from the movement of the planets.

You're talking about the polar shift. Maybe thats what he is talking about indeed. I've heard our next biggest chance for one is between now and 2012.

Cosmo

LikeAnOcean wrote:

You're talking about the polar shift. Maybe thats what he is talking about indeed. I've heard our next biggest chance for one is between now and 2012.

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Are you talking about the reversal in the Earh's magnetic field? I understand at the Earth's natural process swaps the North and South magnetic fields... where you compass will point South, instead of North. The actual axis does not flip... only the magnetic fields, again, due to events occuring on and within the planet, not the celestrial environment.
In the period of the shift, the magnetic fields that protect the planet will be in disarray. The good thing... we will be able to witness Auroras throughout the planet. The bad news, solar radiation that is normally deflected away by these protective fields will bombard the surface. Life will die, but is is not all life on Earth. The planet will survive... and so will some of us. But, not from barricading ourselves in a compound in the desert... it'll be evolutionary changes what will allow us (and other forms of life) to survive.
Hopefully, from there... we will have figured out that shit like War and racism have no place in our lives... that we are all basically the same... and just want to live happy lives.
Or maybe Nature has another species in mind to take over the reigns... possibly the bees or the ants. Let's just hope that they do not create their God in their image and take sole claim of Him.

onelongsong

LikeAnOcean wrote:

Are you kidding me???

Do you understand how the seasons work? I think your confusing your knowledge with some other info. There might be slight variations in the Earths orbit over thousands of year, but every 2nd grader knows the Earth orbit around the sun takes one year. If it took thousands of years our seasons would last hundreds of years..

i didn't know i was addressing second graders so let me try to give you an example. on i believe august 27th; mars was the closest to the earth as it will be until another century (approximately). although we orbit around the sun; our orbit in space in relation to the other planets is something completely different. on august 27th; it appeared like we had 2 moons. if you were correct; that would happen every year. the same can be proven with eclipses. if our orbit is set as you say; why do eclipses occure at different times?

Yoyoyo

onelongsong wrote:

i didn't know i was addressing second graders so let me try to give you an example. on i believe august 27th; mars was the closest to the earth as it will be until another century (approximately). although we orbit around the sun; our orbit in space in relation to the other planets is something completely different. on august 27th; it appeared like we had 2 moons. if you were correct; that would happen every year. the same can be proven with eclipses. if our orbit is set as you say; why do eclipses occure at different times?

Because those planets and the moon have their own orbits and they take different amounts of time to complete them...?

Don't try and rework the science know as Astronomy, it is one of the oldest disaplines and it doesn't need an armchair scientist putting in his 2C.

If you have a scientific link to prove it, like you said you did, then post.