Study: Warming is stronger, happening sooner

Cosmo

onelongsong wrote:

the reason for this is because the earth has an eliptical orbit around the sun. when we are closer to the sun; it is warmer; when we are farther from the sun; we are cooler. the problem is that we are getting farther from the sun. remember all those predictions that we're moving into an ice age. it's because of the earths orbit is moving away from the sun. the earth should be 1 degree cooler than it was 100 years ago. but it isn't and that's what all the fuss is about.

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Doesn't the Earth revolve around the Sun once per year? You can't be saying we enter an ice age every year, right?
Are you saying that the Earth is spinning closer and closer to the Sun? or spinning further and further away?

onelongsong

Cosmo wrote:

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Doesn't the Earth revolve around the Sun once per year? You can't be saying we enter an ice age every year, right?
Are you saying that the Earth is spinning closer and closer to the Sun? or spinning further and further away?

the earths orbit around the sun takes thousands of years. i'll get you some links tomorrow. i'm not feeling well.

Cosmo

onelongsong wrote:

the earths orbit around the sun takes thousands of years. i'll get you some links tomorrow. i'm not feeling well.

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No. It takes one year. The Earth goes around the Sun once a year. We get the seasons because of the Earth's tilted axis... when the north pole points towards the Sun.. it's Summer here, Winter in Austrailia. The two Equinoxes occur when the axis pole are equidistant from the Sun.
We don't need links to prove this.. all we have to do is look at a calendar.

jlew24asu

onelongsong wrote:

you're right. when i think i'm right i do get arrogant. i'm sorry about that. maybe it comes from living in a remote area and not having human contact. everyone here likes me but i really don't have that human interaction so i don't have people skills.
on the other hand you've changed my mind on a few subjects and showed me a different way to look at things. so what comes off as arrogant; is still changed by reasonable debate.
thanks for putting up with me.

i feel like i'm getting the flu so i'm going to bed. i'll talk to you tomorrow.

no problem, being arrogant isnt even really a bad thing. hell, look whos talking. hope you feel better.

Yoyoyo

Cosmo wrote:

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No. It takes one year. The Earth goes around the Sun once a year. We get the seasons because of the Earth's tilted axis... when the north pole points towards the Sun.. it's Summer here, Winter in Austrailia. The two Equinoxes occur when the axis pole are equidistant from the Sun.
We don't need links to prove this.. all we have to do is look at a calendar.

I'm thinking age has caught up with him, and it was past due for gramps to take a nap.

The earth does orbit the sun once a year and it is elliptical, but the tempurature change occurs annually.

The axis of the earth does change somewhat over long periods of time. Maybe that is what OLS is talking about.

Jeanie

Mestophar wrote:

I'm thinking age has caught up with him, and it was past due for gramps to take a nap.

The earth does orbit the sun once a year and it is elliptical, but the tempurature change occurs annually.

The axis of the earth does change somewhat over long periods of time. Maybe that is what OLS is talking about.

What a charmer you are. It's probably his fault, I know how you like to blame people for everything. But OLS is EXTREMELY SICK! Now if you still get off on having a go at him because you're that kind of human being well good on you.
How hard is it for you to be pleasant????? Clearly, EXTREMELY difficult!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You need to get a life.

810wmb

shooting for the most unpopular post here -

the bible says at the end of times, you won't be be able to tell winter from summer

Yoyoyo

Jeanie wrote:

What a charmer you are. It's probably his fault, I know how you like to blame people for everything. But OLS is EXTREMELY SICK! Now if you still get off on having a go at him because you're that kind of human being well good on you.
How hard is it for you to be pleasant????? Clearly, EXTREMELY difficult!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You need to get a life.

I don't think he needs his internet girlfriend to defend him.

I need to get a life? LOL coming from a person who has 11k posts on an internet forum... now thats rich!

P.S. Just FYI, I get off on having a go at you.

Yoyoyo

810wmb wrote:

shooting for the most unpopular post here -

the bible says at the end of times, you won't be be able to tell winter from summer

I just owned your post dude. ^^^^

Jeanie

Mestophar wrote:

I don't think he needs his internet girlfriend to defend him.

I need to get a life? LOL coming from a person who has 11k posts on an internet forum... now thats rich!

P.S. Just FYI, I get off on having a go at you.

Well keep it up sunshine. I'm more than happy to take you on. And MORE THAN HAPPY TO COMPLAIN TO ADMIN about your sexist, bigotted, ageist, nasty personal crap!

Yoyoyo

That's all you do in life is complain. I'm starting to understand who/what you are now.

Nasty? You don't know what nasty is.

P.S. How dare you call me sunshine! ( I like it )

Jeanie

Mestophar wrote:

That's all you do in life is complain. I'm starting to understand who/what you are now.

Nasty? You don't know what nasty is.

P.S. How dare you call me sunshine! ( I like it )

Whatever. :rolleyes: Clearly you're a waste of precious energy, oxygen and space. I don't see anybody else having a problem so it must be you. Good luck with that. Now I've got WAY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.

You have a nice pathetic life.

Anon

onelongsong wrote:

look at the cost of those wars to the us. oh; but those were white people. it's ok if we bring freedom to white people. that's what you're about.

what i am about??? wft is your problem???? go back and read my reply to 'decides to dream' again. that's when you decided you would have a go. i said i agreed with what he/she said. For some reason, you decided you would single ME out because i said i felt that the war in iraq was was about OIL. Like hello, i'm not the only one on the planet that thinks that, and it had been mentioned previously in this thread. you didn't jump in then did you. So why single me out?

don't tell me what i'm about and that i think it's only ok to bring freedom to white people. show me where the fuck i said that. i didn't. you are just making things up as you go along.

i said i think the war is about oil. you don't agree. so what. build a bridge. and get the fuck over it.

jlew24asu

Mestophar wrote:

I don't think he needs his internet girlfriend to defend him.

I need to get a life? LOL coming from a person who has 11k posts on an internet forum... now thats rich!

P.S. Just FYI, I get off on having a go at you.

well you certainly are a class act huh buddy?

hippiemom

Jeanie wrote:

What a charmer you are. It's probably his fault, I know how you like to blame people for everything. But OLS is EXTREMELY SICK! Now if you still get off on having a go at him because you're that kind of human being well good on you.
How hard is it for you to be pleasant????? Clearly, EXTREMELY difficult!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. You need to get a life.

Jeanie, I don't want you to think I'm siding with your opposition here, because I'm certainly NOT doing that .... but I do feel like I have to say something.

People who don't want to get into an argument, or don't want people taking shots at them, don't go to political message boards. OLS knows what the Train is like, and he still comes here. When I don't feel like getting into it with anyone, or having insults hurled at me or whatever, I don't post here, because every time you post there's a chance that will happen. I don't expect anyone to treat me with kid gloves, and while I certainly can't speak for OLS, I can't imagine that he does either. I get tired of being "the sick one" all the time, I like that I can come here and still be treated the same as always, when I'm up for it

Cosmo

Mestophar wrote:

I'm thinking age has caught up with him, and it was past due for gramps to take a nap.

The earth does orbit the sun once a year and it is elliptical, but the tempurature change occurs annually.

The axis of the earth does change somewhat over long periods of time. Maybe that is what OLS is talking about.

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Oh... it's called 'Precession'. Like the axis of a spinning top, right? Then, yeah.. that occurs... but it does not change the distance of the Earth from the Sun, right? The seasons will eventually change (to where Summer of us will be in December... but, that's not scheduled to happen for another 12,000 years from now... not 4.
Activities on the Planet affect the atmosphere... whether it's Earth's sulfur farts in Siberia or pollution spewed into the air for 110 years. That's what we need to consider.

Jeanie

hippiemom wrote:

Jeanie, I don't want you to think I'm siding with your opposition here, because I'm certainly NOT doing that .... but I do feel like I have to say something.

People who don't want to get into an argument, or don't want people taking shots at them, don't go to political message boards. OLS knows what the Train is like, and he still comes here. When I don't feel like getting into it with anyone, or having insults hurled at me or whatever, I don't post here, because every time you post there's a chance that will happen. I don't expect anyone to treat me with kid gloves, and while I certainly can't speak for OLS, I can't imagine that he does either. I get tired of being "the sick one" all the time, I like that I can come here and still be treated the same as always, when I'm up for it : D

It's cool Mom. I get where you're coming from. I guess my only response would be, please don't think I'm endlessly defending OLS blindly, because I'm not. Stupidly sometimes, but never always with blinkers on. He does come here to the train because it distracts him from his illness, keeps him awake when he wants to be here to chat just for some human contact but unfortunately that also means that his head isn't always screwed on right or he doesn't express himself well and he does have a go at people. Which I might add I give him shit for. I certainly understand why that pisses people off and I know he knows that too. This whole thing came up yesterday because he had a good day but pushed himself too far and should have done what I said and GONE TO BED when I told him. But as I'm sure you've noticed he's as stubborn as mule sometimes!
Anyway, as far as I'm concerned it's water under the bridge. He uses this for an outlet, right or wrong, and sometimes people take issue with that, right or wrong. AND SOMETIMES, I stupidly try to protect him when I know that things are particularly bad, right or wrong. I don't really see it as siding with the opposition, I don't really see that there is an opposition. More like things get said, it develops into fisty cuffs and then it's over. Hopefully with a little more understanding on both sides but that's not a prerequisite.

Of course I'm quite sure when he gets back, I'll have some splain' to do!
Anyway, it's all good. And completely off topic, which I apologize to the OP for my part in.

Cosmo

Jeanie wrote:

Whatever. :rolleyes: Clearly you're a waste of precious energy, oxygen and space. I don't see anybody else having a problem so it must be you. Good luck with that. Now I've got WAY MORE IMPORTANT THINGS TO DO.

You have a nice pathetic life.

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"Don't wear you heart out on your sleeve, when your remarks are off the cuff".
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If you're going to be throwing out unsubstantiated statements that fly in the face of facts... you shouldn't be surprized or get upset when the shit you throw at the fan comes back and hits you in the face. That is what often happens to OLS.
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Also... "Clearly you're a waste of precious energy, oxygen and space." To me, I don't know... but, that looks like a personal attack... or at least an insult.

Jeanie

Cosmo wrote:

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"Don't wear you heart out on your sleeve, when your remarks are off the cuff".
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If you're going to be throwing out unsubstantiated statements that fly in the face of facts... you shouldn't be surprized or get upset when the shit you throw at the fan comes back and hits you in the face. That is what often happens to OLS.
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Also... "Clearly you're a waste of precious energy, oxygen and space." To me, I don't know... but, that looks like a personal attack... or at least an insult.

Cosmo if you have a problem with me, then lets take it pm. Ok?

Cosmo

Jeanie wrote:

Cosmo if you have a problem with me, then lets take it pm. Ok?

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No way... I learn from bad experiences... last time that happened... i got 5 for fighting.
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I'm not the one throwing insults around here. I'm just saying, when you take shots at people, don't go crying to the Mods when they shoot back. Either shoot and take the return fire or hold your fire.