Study: Warming is stronger, happening sooner

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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Cosmo wrote:
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    No way... I learn from bad experiences... last time that happened... i got 5 for fighting.
    ...
    I'm not the one throwing insults around here. I'm just saying, when you take shots at people, don't go crying to the Mods when they shoot back. Either shoot and take the return fire or hold your fire.

    I specifically asked them not to do that but I don't expect you to believe me.

    And when it comes to throwing insults, sorry if it's childish but he started it, I'm simply responding. Pretty much like you do with OLS sometimes. Anyway, it's all too stupid for words. So whatever, I'll take behavioural advice from you when you're prepared to do the same from me. I'm done here. It's all getting a little too pot and kettle for me.
    NOPE!!!

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    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jeanie wrote:
    I specifically asked them not to do that but I don't expect you to believe me.

    And when it comes to throwing insults, sorry if it's childish but he started it, I'm simply responding. Pretty much like you do with OLS sometimes. Anyway, it's all too stupid for words. So whatever, I'll take behavioural advice from you when you're prepared to do the same from me. I'm done here. It's all getting a little too pot and kettle for me.
    ...
    No. The difference here is when i take shots at people... I expect them to fire back. I don't go running off, threatening to to report them when I'm doing the same exact thing. Besides, reporting on people ain't my style... sure, I'll call the cops if I see Usama Bin Laden carjacking a Camry, but a little tiff in here... naw.
    There's a big difference here... not a pot and kettle.... more like a pot and a rattlesnake eating Doritos while playing checkers with a stop sign.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Cosmo wrote:
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    No. The difference here is when i take shots at people... I expect them to fire back. I don't go running off, threatening to to report them when I'm doing the same exact thing. Besides, reporting on people ain't my style... sure, I'll call the cops if I see Usama Bin Laden carjacking a Camry, but a little tiff in here... naw.
    There's a big difference here... not a pot and kettle.... more like a pot and a rattlesnake eating Doritos while playing checkers with a stop sign.

    Now I'm confused. :D Who's the rattlesnake??? :p
    NOPE!!!

    *~You're IT Bert!~*

    Hold on to the thread
    The currents will shift
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    and i can post sites showing chicago will be gone. this is a great time to be a scientist. all you have to do is disagree with mainstream and you get publicity. your 15 minutes of fame so to speak.
    if you build a website; they will look at it.
    Dude, I just randomly searched for that site. I've been hearing for years now that the great lakes are shrinking. If you can link me to some sites that believe otherwise I will totally consider them. I'm not argueing that that site is particularly right. I'm just argueing that I've heard from sources of the years they are shrinking, which is why I though your original arguement seemed a little odd.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    the earths orbit around the sun takes thousands of years. i'll get you some links tomorrow. i'm not feeling well.
    Are you kidding me???

    Do you understand how the seasons work? I think your confusing your knowledge with some other info. There might be slight variations in the Earths orbit over thousands of year, but every 2nd grader knows the Earth orbit around the sun takes one year. If it took thousands of years our seasons would last hundreds of years..
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Are you kidding me???

    Do you understand how the seasons work? I think your confusing your knowledge with some other info. There might be slight variations in the Earths orbit over thousands of year, but every 2nd grader knows the Earth orbit around the sun takes one year. If it took thousands of years our seasons would last hundreds of years..

    and any college student knows that that orbit is eliptical. i'm trying to think of a way to simplify the "orbit within the orbit." we may revolve around the sun in 1 year but we have an orbit that we follow.
    the hell with it. you look it up.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    what i am about??? wft is your problem???? go back and read my reply to 'decides to dream' again. that's when you decided you would have a go. i said i agreed with what he/she said. For some reason, you decided you would single ME out because i said i felt that the war in iraq was was about OIL. Like hello, i'm not the only one on the planet that thinks that, and it had been mentioned previously in this thread. you didn't jump in then did you. So why single me out?

    don't tell me what i'm about and that i think it's only ok to bring freedom to white people. show me where the fuck i said that. i didn't. you are just making things up as you go along.

    i said i think the war is about oil. you don't agree. so what. build a bridge. and get the fuck over it.

    i take great offence when the public backs a war (with great pride) when it is to bring freedom to white people but when we try to bring the same freedom to people of colour; it's a terrible war and NOT WORTH THE COST!
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    and any college student knows that that orbit is eliptical. i'm trying to think of a way to simplify the "orbit within the orbit." we may revolve around the sun in 1 year but we have an orbit that we follow.
    the hell with it. you look it up.

    maybe this will help:
    it's our orbit in space.
  • onelongsongonelongsong Posts: 3,517
    i looked back and saw that i was part of some big argument that had nothing to do with the subject. tomorrow is surgery and my DNR order in. my last post before then is to say WAKE UP PEOPLE. instead of fighting; why not band together and see what YOU AS A PEOPLE can do to help. i told you what's coming so heed the warning or get out of the way of those doing something about the problem. talk to those effected like africa; or the islands off new guinea being evacuated; or those in alaska being evacuated; or those on the indian islands being evacuated. talk to those already effected. they'll tell you what global warming has done.
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    i looked back and saw that i was part of some big argument that had nothing to do with the subject. tomorrow is surgery and my DNR order in. my last post before then is to say WAKE UP PEOPLE. instead of fighting; why not band together and see what YOU AS A PEOPLE can do to help. i told you what's coming so heed the warning or get out of the way of those doing something about the problem. talk to those effected like africa; or the islands off new guinea being evacuated; or those in alaska being evacuated; or those on the indian islands being evacuated. talk to those already effected. they'll tell you what global warming has done.

    wish u well ... hope to see you back ...
  • i looked back and saw that i was part of some big argument that had nothing to do with the subject. tomorrow is surgery and my DNR order in. my last post before then is to say WAKE UP PEOPLE. instead of fighting; why not band together and see what YOU AS A PEOPLE can do to help. i told you what's coming so heed the warning or get out of the way of those doing something about the problem. talk to those effected like africa; or the islands off new guinea being evacuated; or those in alaska being evacuated; or those on the indian islands being evacuated. talk to those already effected. they'll tell you what global warming has done.

    You're up tomorrow?

    Keep it hard man...

    See you soon...
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    maybe this will help:
    it's our orbit in space.
    Do you mean our solar systems orbit around the Milky way galaxy maybe? I understand that the Earths orbit around the sun is not perfect, and that different variations can occur over thousands, even millions of years, but closer to the sun or not, it takes Earth one year to make one complete orbit around our sun. That fact alone is what our calendar is based off of. It's what a year is based off of.

    A few weeks ago I learned how the Mayan calendars worked. They actually made much more sense and related to humans and how we calculate time much better than basing our dates on the time it takes the Earth to go around the sun.
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    i take great offence when the public backs a war (with great pride) when it is to bring freedom to white people but when we try to bring the same freedom to people of colour; it's a terrible war and NOT WORTH THE COST!

    i've seriously had enough of your shit. you can't come on a message board, quote someone, then attack them for something that was never said.

    you still didn't show me where i said that it's only ok to bring freedom to white people. oh wait. you can't. because i didn't. i have NEVER mentioned that, nor would i. so again, don't quote me, and go off on a rant about something i have NEVER mentioned.
  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    i've seriously had enough of your shit. you can't come on a message board, quote someone, then attack them for something that was never said.

    you still didn't show me where i said that it's only ok to bring freedom to white people. oh wait. you can't. because i didn't. i have NEVER mentioned that, nor would i. so again, don't quote me, and go off on a rant about something i have NEVER mentioned.


    JEANIE ^^^ Where are you?

    Let me give it a try!

    How dare YOU try and attack our great OSL!! He is a VERY sick man and he is going for a SURGURY today! How low of a human being are you, and when will you stop ignorant DRIVEL!?! He is a great man and has more earthly knowledge than you EVER could. :sadface:
    No need to be void, or save up on life

    You got to spend it all
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Mestophar wrote:
    JEANIE ^^^ Where are you?

    Let me give it a try!

    How dare YOU try and attack our great OSL!! He is a VERY sick man and he is going for a SURGURY today! How low of a human being are you, and when will you stop ignorant DRIVEL!?! He is a great man and has more earthly knowledge than you EVER could. :sadface:

    give it a rest already. such the tough guy.
  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    jlew24asu wrote:
    give it a rest already. such the tough guy.


    You have it all wrong. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
    No need to be void, or save up on life

    You got to spend it all
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Mestophar wrote:
    You have it all wrong. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery.

    like I said, give it a rest. most of the time you make yourself look stupid by pretending you actually know what your talking about. you are only picking on jeanie to feel better about your small self. move on
  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    jlew24asu wrote:
    like I said, give it a rest. most of the time you make yourself look stupid by pretending you actually know what your talking about. you are only picking on jeanie to feel better about your small self. move on

    Need an expanded lesson on what a solution is I gather?

    You move on.
    No need to be void, or save up on life

    You got to spend it all
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Mestophar wrote:
    Need an expanded lesson on what a solution is I gather?

    You move on.

    many people suffer from the same disease you have, its ok

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Mestophar wrote:
    JEANIE ^^^ Where are you?

    Let me give it a try!

    How dare YOU try and attack our great OSL!! He is a VERY sick man and he is going for a SURGURY today! How low of a human being are you, and when will you stop ignorant DRIVEL!?! He is a great man and has more earthly knowledge than you EVER could. :sadface:

    i don't enjoy atacking anyone. i enjoy it about as much as i like my posts being quoted, and then attacked over issues i have never mentioned. i also did read onelongsongs post where he said that he was going in for surgery tomorrow. i'm sorry to hear that. that post was written an hour after he again, for the second time, accused me of only being happy with giving freedom to white people and yes i take great offence to that. i have never or would never say that.

    he also had an opportunity to go back and edit what he had had so unfairly attacked me for when he did that last post and he chose not to.

    again, i am sorry to hear that onelongsong is sick. i hope that that the surgery is successful. i mean that with all sincerity.

    being ill is no excuse to be an ass. i am not going to sit back and say, 'wait, that person is sick, its' ok to attack me'.
  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    jlew24asu wrote:
    many people suffer from the same disease you have, its ok

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_complex

    I should take some meds for that I guess! Where did you get your psychiatry degree from?
    No need to be void, or save up on life

    You got to spend it all
  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    he also had an opportunity to go back and edit what he had had so unfairly attacked me for when he did that last post and he chose not to.

    again, i am sorry to hear that onelongsong is sick. i hope that that the surgery is successful. i mean that with all sincerity.

    being ill is no excuse to be an ass. i am not going to sit back and say, 'wait, that person is sick, its' ok to attack me'.

    It sucks to knock people's crutches out from under them, but you gotta do it. The hard part is not laughing.
    No need to be void, or save up on life

    You got to spend it all
  • AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
    Mestophar wrote:
    It sucks to knock people's crutches out from under them, but you gotta do it. The hard part is not laughing.
    i'm a critical care paramedic. sick people do not make me laugh. trust me.
  • Are Arabs considered white people? its all so vague
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Do you mean our solar systems orbit around the Milky way galaxy maybe? I understand that the Earths orbit around the sun is not perfect, and that different variations can occur over thousands, even millions of years, but closer to the sun or not, it takes Earth one year to make one complete orbit around our sun. That fact alone is what our calendar is based off of. It's what a year is based off of.

    A few weeks ago I learned how the Mayan calendars worked. They actually made much more sense and related to humans and how we calculate time much better than basing our dates on the time it takes the Earth to go around the sun.
    ...
    I think the guy is try to explain something called 'precession'. This is the 'wobble' of the Earth axis. He's just not very good in astronomy.
    anyway, precession is like the motion a spinning top makes. If you were, for example, to chart the path of the north point of the axis on that spinning top, it would trace out a circle (which is an ellipse with a single focal and equal radius).
    The Earth is spinning in a similar manner... being the axis is not fixed. The Earth's little circle takes about 26,000 years to complete one rotation. It's still spinning at one revolution per 24 hours and completing one revolution around the Sun in about 356.4 days... but, it is also wobbling at a rate of one revolution per 26,000 years.
    ...
    That being said... we won't see the seasons flip (Summer in December, Winter in July for another 12,000 years... not 4 as OLS predicts) due to precession. We will see noted changes in our weather in about 3,000 years.
    Any of the changes in our weather today and in the coming years will be due to changes in our atmosphere, not celestrial motion.
    And OLS also brought up the Permian Extinction that occurred 250 million years ago. The Earth was a completely different planet back then and events on the surface impacted the atmosphere... the Siberian Earth fart that killed off about 95% of all life on the planet back then... again, due to events on the surface, not from the movement of the planets.
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  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    810wmb wrote:
    death is coming, try to find God!

    did you look behind the couch?
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Jeanie wrote:
    Now I'm confused. :D Who's the rattlesnake??? :p
    ...
    I don't care... i'll be the rattlesnake. I like rattlesnakes... I think they are kinda cool.
    The only other thing I would want... if I was a rattle snake... wings... and bullet proof armour... and the ability to shoot fire... and the power of invisability.
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • brain of cbrain of c Posts: 5,213
    Cosmo wrote:
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    I don't care... i'll be the rattlesnake. I like rattlesnakes... I think they are kinda cool.
    The only other thing I would want... if I was a rattle snake... wings... and bullet proof armour... and the ability to shoot fire... and the power of invisability.

    greedy.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    brain of c wrote:
    greedy.
    ...
    Yeah, I know... but, come on... who wouldn't want to be a flying, invisable, fire-breathing rattlesnake with bulletproof armour?
    Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
    Hail, Hail!!!
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I think the guy is try to explain something called 'precession'. This is the 'wobble' of the Earth axis. He's just not very good in astronomy.
    anyway, precession is like the motion a spinning top makes. If you were, for example, to chart the path of the north point of the axis on that spinning top, it would trace out a circle (which is an ellipse with a single focal and equal radius).
    The Earth is spinning in a similar manner... being the axis is not fixed. The Earth's little circle takes about 26,000 years to complete one rotation. It's still spinning at one revolution per 24 hours and completing one revolution around the Sun in about 356.4 days... but, it is also wobbling at a rate of one revolution per 26,000 years.
    ...
    That being said... we won't see the seasons flip (Summer in December, Winter in July for another 12,000 years... not 4 as OLS predicts) due to precession. We will see noted changes in our weather in about 3,000 years.
    Any of the changes in our weather today and in the coming years will be due to changes in our atmosphere, not celestrial motion.
    And OLS also brought up the Permian Extinction that occurred 250 million years ago. The Earth was a completely different planet back then and events on the surface impacted the atmosphere... the Siberian Earth fart that killed off about 95% of all life on the planet back then... again, due to events on the surface, not from the movement of the planets.


    Very interesting Cosmo! I was thinking precession myself. Also this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycle

    Very interesting, and complicated stuff!

    Also, I was wondering if anyone has read or heard about the climate epoch anthropocene? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropocene
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