These types of threads don't interest ahnimus much. he's all about God.
I already stated my piece on this thread. It's ultimately up to women.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
If neither of them don't want to end up with a pregnancy on their hands, then neither of them should be having sex. An abortion is not necessary to avoid having a child. All you have to do is not have sex.
Women have the same choices. Therefore, abortion should even come into play if you never have an unwanted pregnancy in the first place.
But I thought both parents shared equal responsibility... Do you consider a father's attachment to his child to be less than a mother's?
Why does she also have the right to decide what happens to her child in that way? Killing for convenience.
Why do you act like more men are pro-life than women? What has led you to this conclusion? I'm afraid that you are woefully ignorant to believe that. I can't imagine this hasn't been brought to your attention a thousand times, but the early feminists felt abortion was a terrible crime against women.
Men and women care about this issue because we believe that abortion is the killing of completely innocent human life, and that everyone should have a chance to live.
But not sad enough, right?
But it's not just her body anymore.
You can try to dehumanize unborn children all you like, but that won't change the fact that that "cluster of cells" is precisely what a human being is at that stage of its life. What makes a baby for you? Some superficial quality like appearance? Who are you to decide when a human being isn't a human being, and therefore should not even have the right to continue to exist?
So anyway, stupidly, I did initially attempt to respond to ALL that you had to say here, but then I realized, why am I bothering?
I'm not sure I understand your example of both prisons vs. execution. But whatever your side of the fence is on that one, it means we're dealing with people already on this earth. If someone is a pedophile, murderer, or rapist then I'm fine to pay for their jail (or execution, depending on the crime and jury's verdict) because I could be affected by their behavior. It's an example to other people who are tempted to commit a crime. It's a necessary evil.
On the other hand, if a woman doesn't want a child in South Carolina, I'm not affected by her choice. I don't think people should pay to encourage her to have a child she doesn't want. It's not that I'm cold hearted, I'm involved in numerous charities, but again, it's a ridiculous and expensive bill. Put the money into education for the kids that are already here. If a woman is unsure and wants to see what a child looks like at her stage of pregnancy, then show her a damn picture. If she wants the abortion then give her the abortion.
SuzannePjam, just wanted to say thank you for posting this thread and for all the information, and for articulating your views so well.
"treasury agent" doesn't sound very reassuring. i asked the question, knowing the answer that ffg does not.
i like the fact that your egocentric arrogance makes me look like a model of humility around here. i've seen few people who are so unjustifiably smug. it makes me feel like less of a douchebag. thanks.
then why dont you vote for more women? men dont have the votes to own every office unless some women are voting for them. get your sisters in line
We don't get a lot of women standing here ss. I mean we are certainly getting a lot more than we used to but how can you vote for them if they don't even stand in your electorate? Or if they do they are standing for a party that you wouldn't even consider supporting? And that's before you even get them into the main game.
We don't get a lot of women standing here ss. I mean we are certainly getting a lot more than we used to but how can you vote for them if they don't even stand in your electorate? Or if they do they are standing for a party that you wouldn't even consider supporting? And that's before you even get them into the main game.
i like the fact that your egocentric arrogance makes me look like a model of humility around here. i've seen few people who are so unjustifiably smug. it makes me feel like less of a douchebag. thanks.
id rather be an honest narcissist than a delusional and vain fool. you had nothing on ffg and he ran circles around you so now you're trying to play some sad little game to rebuild your ego after he owned you. why dont you stop playing the hotshot and just give out this definition of tax that "ffg doesn't even know the answer to"? cos it robs you of your petty little chance to be condescending.
id rather be an honest narcissist than a delusional and vain fool. you had nothing on ffg and he ran circles around you so now you're trying to play some sad little game to rebuild your ego after he owned you. why dont you stop playing the hotshot and just give out this definition of tax that "ffg doesn't even know the answer to"? cos it robs you of your petty little chance to be condescending.
well, you read into things however you want. i'm only partly here for the contest, and you're no competition so mind your own affairs. ffg can stand up for himself without you, and he'd probably prefer it.
i asked the question, knowing the answer that ffg does not.
Hehe...what the hell is this? If I take the above literally, it's hillarious. Why would you ask me a question while thinking I don't know the response? Furthermore, why ask a question for only which you have the response? Is it possible that you've become more insecure since your last moniker on this board?
I'm not sure what question you even asked. The "what are taxes" question? Taxes are simply the ransom paid on your liberty. But I gave up bitching about taxes for lent.
Hehe...what the hell is this? If I take the above literally, it's hillarious. Why would you ask me a question while thinking I don't know the response? Furthermore, why ask a question for only which you have the response? Is it possible that you've become more insecure since your last moniker on this board?
I'm not sure what question you even asked. The "what are taxes" question? Taxes are simply the ransom paid on your liberty. But I gave up bitching about taxes for lent.
And liberty is a common goal. It is no ransom, it is a shared responsibilty. (albeit a most abused one at the present moment). You can play the naked Tarzan all you want, hunting and gathering, but that isn't the reality anymore.
Hehe...don't be ridiculous. Liberty is not a common goal, at least not in the context of the United State of America. If liberty were a common goal, this thread wouldn't exist because a) people wouldn't be forcing others to have ultrasounds and b) people wouldn't be forcing others to pay for their abortions.
Furthermore, this entire board probably wouldn't exist, since its purpose seems to be deciding whom we should force and what we should force out of them.
It is no ransom, it is a shared responsibilty. (albeit a most abused one at the present moment).
Ahhh..."shared responsibility". I see. That makes a lot of sense. Try checking your own tax return some time and see how that worked out.
You can play the naked Tarzan all you want, hunting and gathering, but that isn't the reality anymore.
Hehe...don't be ridiculous. Liberty is not a common goal, at least not in the context of the United State of America. If liberty were a common goal, this thread wouldn't exist because a) people wouldn't be forcing others to have ultrasounds and b) people wouldn't be forcing others to pay for their abortions.
Then I am to assume you prefer the controlled. Control is where it's at.
Furthermore, this entire board probably wouldn't exist, since its purpose seems to be deciding whom we should force and what we should force out of them.
not sure i follow this one.
Ahhh..."shared responsibility". I see. That makes a lot of sense. Try checking your own tax return some time and see how that worked out.
there ya go with a typical, easy response.
I'll call your bluff.
If you yourself aren't responsible for the progression of liberty then i've got to assume you have no concept of liberty at all.
Then I am to assume you prefer the controlled. Control is where it's at.
The controlled what? People? No, I don't prefer "the controlled". I prefer those who understand their natural sphere of control -- their own lives, their own minds, and the thoughts and actions that extend from them.
not sure i follow this one.
Just take a sample of every thread started on this board next week. Ask yourself a basic question:
Is this person looking to control their own lives, or control the lives of others?
Add up all the positives and add up all the negatives. Compare.
there ya go with a typical, easy response.
It was very easy, yes. It also disproves your contention about "shared responsibility".
If you yourself aren't responsible for the progression of liberty then i've got to assume you have no concept of liberty at all.
I am responsible for the "progression of liberty". And because of that I stand opposed to those who wish to destroy it.
The controlled what? People? No, I don't prefer "the controlled". I prefer those who understand their natural sphere of control -- their own lives, their own minds, and the thoughts and actions that extend from them.
Just take a sample of every thread started on this board next week. Ask yourself a basic question: Is this person looking to control their own lives, or control the lives of others?
Add up all the positives and add up all the negatives. Compare.
It was very easy, yes. It also disproves your contention about "shared responsibility".
I am responsible for the "progression of liberty". And because of that I stand opposed to those who wish to destroy it.
In my opinion, you're putting the business of making money ahead of the people that make it happen, and that is the way you think it works. Liberty reaches beyond the confines of money, and as much as you want to laugh at me on that, I'll be here to battle you every step of the way.
In my opinion, you're putting the business of making money ahead of the people that make it happen, and that is the way you think it works.
Ok, I'll put the business of making money behind everything. I'll make no money. And since those that collect that money simply "make it happen", that should pose absolutely no problem to them.
Liberty reaches beyond the confines of money, and as much as you want to laugh at me on that, I'll be here to battle you every step of the way.
Liberty does reach beyond the confines of money. Liberty is what actually makes money possible, que_barium.
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Edit: has the abortion thread turned into a tax thread? I bet it moves on to free will eventually............
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These types of threads don't interest ahnimus much. he's all about God.
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the special agents phone number or ffg's? I don't have ffg's. you'll have to smooth talk that from him.
but the illusion of knowledge.
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Only a life lived for others is worth living.
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I've got no leverage on him that way. Will you be a nice Mata Hari and take care of that? I promise many good things for you.
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I already stated my piece on this thread. It's ultimately up to women.
So anyway, stupidly, I did initially attempt to respond to ALL that you had to say here, but then I realized, why am I bothering?
"What we have here is a failure to communicate"
You have a nice day.
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SuzannePjam, just wanted to say thank you for posting this thread and for all the information, and for articulating your views so well.
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then why dont you vote for more women? men dont have the votes to own every office unless some women are voting for them. get your sisters in line
i like the fact that your egocentric arrogance makes me look like a model of humility around here. i've seen few people who are so unjustifiably smug. it makes me feel like less of a douchebag. thanks.
We don't get a lot of women standing here ss. I mean we are certainly getting a lot more than we used to but how can you vote for them if they don't even stand in your electorate? Or if they do they are standing for a party that you wouldn't even consider supporting? And that's before you even get them into the main game.
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then run for office yourself
Your narcisissism speaks for itself.
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id rather be an honest narcissist than a delusional and vain fool. you had nothing on ffg and he ran circles around you so now you're trying to play some sad little game to rebuild your ego after he owned you. why dont you stop playing the hotshot and just give out this definition of tax that "ffg doesn't even know the answer to"? cos it robs you of your petty little chance to be condescending.
well, you read into things however you want. i'm only partly here for the contest, and you're no competition so mind your own affairs. ffg can stand up for himself without you, and he'd probably prefer it.
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Hehe...what the hell is this? If I take the above literally, it's hillarious. Why would you ask me a question while thinking I don't know the response? Furthermore, why ask a question for only which you have the response? Is it possible that you've become more insecure since your last moniker on this board?
I'm not sure what question you even asked. The "what are taxes" question? Taxes are simply the ransom paid on your liberty. But I gave up bitching about taxes for lent.
and we're all very grateful for it
what was the last moniker? im always slow on that uptake...
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So brutalize me with music.”
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i love you.
cross the river to the eastside
don't worry darlin, you'll warm up to me one day
And liberty is a common goal. It is no ransom, it is a shared responsibilty. (albeit a most abused one at the present moment). You can play the naked Tarzan all you want, hunting and gathering, but that isn't the reality anymore.
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Hehe...don't be ridiculous. Liberty is not a common goal, at least not in the context of the United State of America. If liberty were a common goal, this thread wouldn't exist because a) people wouldn't be forcing others to have ultrasounds and b) people wouldn't be forcing others to pay for their abortions.
Furthermore, this entire board probably wouldn't exist, since its purpose seems to be deciding whom we should force and what we should force out of them.
Ahhh..."shared responsibility". I see. That makes a lot of sense. Try checking your own tax return some time and see how that worked out.
I'll call your bluff.
not sure i follow this one.
there ya go with a typical, easy response.
If you yourself aren't responsible for the progression of liberty then i've got to assume you have no concept of liberty at all.
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The controlled what? People? No, I don't prefer "the controlled". I prefer those who understand their natural sphere of control -- their own lives, their own minds, and the thoughts and actions that extend from them.
Just take a sample of every thread started on this board next week. Ask yourself a basic question:
Is this person looking to control their own lives, or control the lives of others?
Add up all the positives and add up all the negatives. Compare.
It was very easy, yes. It also disproves your contention about "shared responsibility".
I am responsible for the "progression of liberty". And because of that I stand opposed to those who wish to destroy it.
Don't you start!!
I'm not sure that the political arena is the place for me ss!
Would require me to participate in team sports if you like. Not my thing.
Think I'll stick to agitating as the will takes me or the situation requires it.
And supporting wherever I can or would want.
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In my opinion, you're putting the business of making money ahead of the people that make it happen, and that is the way you think it works. Liberty reaches beyond the confines of money, and as much as you want to laugh at me on that, I'll be here to battle you every step of the way.
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surferdude, seriously, do take a wee look outside your own world.
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Ok, I'll put the business of making money behind everything. I'll make no money. And since those that collect that money simply "make it happen", that should pose absolutely no problem to them.
Liberty does reach beyond the confines of money. Liberty is what actually makes money possible, que_barium.
fair enough. i hope to one day myself. im born for it... able to argue both sides of all issues without ever really committing to any of them
hehe!!
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