Abortion ultrasound-viewing advances in S.C.

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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:
    Those taxes really nag you then.

    Hey gue....I think you have a crush on ffg :D
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:
    Hey gue....I think you have a crush on ffg :D

    He bitches about taxes more than I do. I find that endearing.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    gue_barium wrote:
    Those taxes really nag you then.

    Hehe...they're not even my taxes. If you'd simply take the time to read back, I was discussing Canada, a nation wherein everyone pays for the abortions of their neighbors.

    Dude, what "nags" me is the pro-choice mindset that often wants to state:

    My body
    My choice
    Everyone's responsibility.

    It's both contradictory and dangerous.
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Hehe...they're not even my taxes. If you'd simply take the time to read back, I was discussing Canada, a nation wherein everyone pays for the abortions of their neighbors.

    Dude, what "nags" me is the pro-choice mindset that often wants to state:

    My body
    My choice
    Everyone's responsibility.

    It's both contradictory and dangerous.


    Do you not see the hypocrisy from the other side as well?
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:
    He bitches about taxes more than I do. I find that endearing.


    I can tell, you mentioning fondling a particular body part of his and all. ;) I'm glad your inner voice told you to to let go. ha ha
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • farfromglorified
    farfromglorified Posts: 5,700
    baraka wrote:
    Do you not see the hypocrisy from the other side as well?

    Of course!
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Of course!

    When it comes right down to it, though...what are taxes?
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    farfromglorified wrote:
    Of course!

    ha ha, I should have known the answer to that! What a silly question to ask.........
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:
    When it comes right down to it, though...what are taxes?

    I have the number of a particular special agent from the US treasury department. I'm sure he would be able to answer that question. Just don't ask him any questions!!!!
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:
    I have the number of a particular special agent from the US treasury department. I'm sure he would be able to answer that question. Just don't ask him any questions!!!!

    "treasury agent" doesn't sound very reassuring. i asked the question, knowing the answer that ffg does not.
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:
    "treasury agent" doesn't sound very reassuring. i asked the question, knowing the answer that ffg does not.

    What's the answer?

    Edit: has the abortion thread turned into a tax thread? I bet it moves on to free will eventually............
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:
    What's the answer?

    PM the phone number first.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:

    Edit: has the abortion thread turned into a tax thread? I bet it moves on to free will eventually............

    These types of threads don't interest ahnimus much. he's all about God.
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  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:
    PM the phone number first.

    the special agents phone number or ffg's? I don't have ffg's. you'll have to smooth talk that from him. :D
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:
    the special agents phone number or ffg's? I don't have ffg's. you'll have to smooth talk that from him. :D

    I've got no leverage on him that way. Will you be a nice Mata Hari and take care of that? I promise many good things for you.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    These types of threads don't interest ahnimus much. he's all about God.

    I already stated my piece on this thread. It's ultimately up to women.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    Trau wrote:
    If neither of them don't want to end up with a pregnancy on their hands, then neither of them should be having sex. An abortion is not necessary to avoid having a child. All you have to do is not have sex.



    Women have the same choices. Therefore, abortion should even come into play if you never have an unwanted pregnancy in the first place.



    But I thought both parents shared equal responsibility... Do you consider a father's attachment to his child to be less than a mother's?



    Why does she also have the right to decide what happens to her child in that way? Killing for convenience.



    Why do you act like more men are pro-life than women? What has led you to this conclusion? I'm afraid that you are woefully ignorant to believe that. I can't imagine this hasn't been brought to your attention a thousand times, but the early feminists felt abortion was a terrible crime against women.

    Men and women care about this issue because we believe that abortion is the killing of completely innocent human life, and that everyone should have a chance to live.



    But not sad enough, right?



    But it's not just her body anymore.



    You can try to dehumanize unborn children all you like, but that won't change the fact that that "cluster of cells" is precisely what a human being is at that stage of its life. What makes a baby for you? Some superficial quality like appearance? Who are you to decide when a human being isn't a human being, and therefore should not even have the right to continue to exist?

    So anyway, stupidly, I did initially attempt to respond to ALL that you had to say here, but then I realized, why am I bothering?

    "What we have here is a failure to communicate"

    You have a nice day. :) I'm done.
    NOPE!!!

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    The currents will shift
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    SuzannePjam wrote:
    I'm not sure I understand your example of both prisons vs. execution. But whatever your side of the fence is on that one, it means we're dealing with people already on this earth. If someone is a pedophile, murderer, or rapist then I'm fine to pay for their jail (or execution, depending on the crime and jury's verdict) because I could be affected by their behavior. It's an example to other people who are tempted to commit a crime. It's a necessary evil.

    On the other hand, if a woman doesn't want a child in South Carolina, I'm not affected by her choice. I don't think people should pay to encourage her to have a child she doesn't want. It's not that I'm cold hearted, I'm involved in numerous charities, but again, it's a ridiculous and expensive bill. Put the money into education for the kids that are already here. If a woman is unsure and wants to see what a child looks like at her stage of pregnancy, then show her a damn picture. If she wants the abortion then give her the abortion.

    SuzannePjam, just wanted to say thank you for posting this thread and for all the information, and for articulating your views so well. :)
    NOPE!!!

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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    catefrances wrote:
    LMAO. you have to be kidding. the western world is run by men. there is no denying that. we do indeed live in a patriarchal society.

    then why dont you vote for more women? men dont have the votes to own every office unless some women are voting for them. get your sisters in line ;)
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gue_barium wrote:
    "treasury agent" doesn't sound very reassuring. i asked the question, knowing the answer that ffg does not.

    i like the fact that your egocentric arrogance makes me look like a model of humility around here. i've seen few people who are so unjustifiably smug. it makes me feel like less of a douchebag. thanks.

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