stupid americans

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

"History and culture" is open-ended.

If you disagree with my definition of patriotism, give it your best shot, commie.

According to you an American should know America's history or culture. I'd say the Declaration of Independence is a big part, maybe even the most important part of American history and culture. So how can you call those Americans who went off to World War II American?

angelica

CorporateWhore wrote:

Patriotism depends on one's love of country.

I'm jumping right on this rare opportunity! I agree with you, my friend--wholeheartedly.

angelica

CorporateWhore wrote:

If you disagree with my definition of patriotism, give it your best shot, commie.

And then I find myself going full circle, and being back to finding you plain old obnoxious as you flail in your stereotypes!

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

According to you an American should know America's history or culture. I'd say the Declaration of Independence is a big part, maybe even the most important part of American history and culture. So how can you call those Americans who went off to World War II American?

Once again, knowing history and culture is a part of being an american, but not the only part and I didn't say it was the only part.

Pray tell, what do you believe makes a patriotic citizen? Or, do you even believe in patriotism?

baraka

I am not fond of sterotyping, BUT, I do feel that we need to be able to laugh at ourselves. I found this piece hilarious! And yes, the ones who did this piece could have found (and probably did) just as many Americans that were well informed, but that wouldn't have been very funny. That fact of the matter is there are folks in every country that are not very well informed. Yes, this piece took a 'jab' at Americans, but ask yourself how many comedy bits you've seen that take a 'jab' at other cultures & countries.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

Once again, knowing history and culture is a part of being an american, but not the only part and I didn't say it was the only part.

Well, I then I don't get your point in that Nation thread. I mean, if people only need to 'have' some parts to be considered American what's the point of that thread?

Pray tell, what do you believe makes a patriotic citizen? Or, do you even believe in patriotism?

I believe patriotism exists, but I don't believe in it.

NMyTree

baraka wrote:

I am not fond of sterotyping, BUT, I do feel that we need to be able to laugh at ourselves. I found this piece hilarious! And yes, the ones who did this piece could have found (and probably did) just as many Americans that were well informed, but that wouldn't have been very funny. That fact of the matter is there are folks in every country that are not very well informed. Yes, this piece took a 'jab' at Americans, but ask yourself how many comedy bits you've seen that take a 'jab' at other cultures & countries.

Exactly. It was a comedy piece. It was funny. But I found it even funnier that the thread starter and some others in this thread are taking this so seriously. I mean, that's like taking the movie "Dumb and Dumber" as a serious evaluation and representation of Americans' behavior and intelligence.

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Well, I then I don't get your point in that Nation thread. I mean, if people only need to 'have' some parts to be considered American what's the point of that thread?

I believe patriotism exists, but I don't believe in it.

One does not necessarily need to know the history of their country, but it does help to be patriotic.

I'm sure whatever European country you're from isn't patriotic either, and that's why Muslims will outnumber you in 50 years.

Or should I call it "Eurabia." Haha.

Collin

NMyTree wrote:

Exactly. It was a comedy piece. It was funny. But I found it even funnier that the thread starter and some others in this thread are taking this so seriously. I mean, that's like taking the movie "Dumb and Dumber" as a serious evaluation and representation of Americans' behavior and intelligence.

I think it was hilarious and a fine piece of comedy but it is kind of sad.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

One does not necessarily need to know the history of their country, but it does help to be patriotic.

I'm sure whatever European country you're from isn't patriotic either, and that's why Muslims will outnumber you in 50 years.

Or should I call it "Eurabia." Haha.

Indeed my country isn't patriotic. I don't have a problem with Muslims outnumbering us in 50 years, though I doubt that will happen.

Anyway, what are you going to do if the Muslim population increases in the US, shoot 'em?

baraka

NMyTree wrote:

Exactly. It was a comedy piece. It was funny. But I found it even funnier that the thread starter and some others in this thread are taking this so seriously. I mean, that's like taking the movie "Dumb and Dumber" as a serious evaluation and representation of Americans' behavior and intelligence.

I think there are some that find it disturbing people could be so uninformed, then there are others that are offended by 'dumb american' sterotyping. I just looked at it as purely comedic.

So, the Axis of Evil is California, Mississippi, and who else.....Jerulsalem? Hilarious!

brainofPJ

Kenny Olav wrote:

you live here. you know it's not just a few people.

got that right...

Jaywalking...

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Indeed my country isn't patriotic. I don't have a problem with Muslims outnumbering us in 50 years, though I doubt that will happen.

Anyway, what are you going to do if the Muslim population increases in the US, shoot 'em?

Tell me what country you're from and I'll tell you if it will be overrun with Muslims.

An unpatriotic country is equivalent to a soulless human being. Without the soul, a human being dies. Without patriotism, a country dies. Your country is dead already.

Edit: additionally, all of those foreign Muslims bring with them a new culture, a new set of values. Individual liberty is not one of them. Of course, individual liberty was never very important to Eurabia now was it?

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

Tell me what country you're from and I'll tell you if it will be overrun with Muslims.

An unpatriotic country is equivalent to a soulless human being. Without the soul, a human being dies. Without patriotism, a country dies. Your country is dead already.

I prefer not to say and there's no way you can tell what will happen in 50 years.

And tell me exactly how a country 'overrun' with Muslims is a bad thing? Why is it worse than a country overrun with Christians or other religious people?

Edit: additionally, all of those foreign Muslims bring with them a new culture, a new set of values. Individual liberty is not one of them. Of course, individual liberty was never very important to Eurabia now was it?

Why do you think individual liberty isn't one of those values? Has it ever occured to you that these people come here because of our freedoms?

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

I prefer not to say and there's no way you can tell what will happen in 50 years.

And tell me exactly how a country 'overrun' with Muslims is a bad thing? Why is it worse than a country overrun with Christians or other religious people?

When your country used to be overwhelmingly Christian and European, and it becomes overwhelmingly Muslim and Arab, it ceases to be the same country. Arab Muslims do not have the same values as Europeans. European countries have failed to assimilate Arab Muslims as well.

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Why do you think individual liberty isn't one of those values? Has it ever occured to you that these people come here because of our freedoms?

Their religion does not support individual liberty at all. All rights come from the Koran and Islamic law, not the Natural Law.

They come to Europe because of the jobs. They can make more money in Europe than they can where they come from.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

When your country used to be overwhelmingly Christian and European, and it becomes overwhelmingly Muslim and Arab, it ceases to be the same country. Arab Muslims do not have the same values as Europeans. European countries have failed to assimilate Arab Muslims as well.

It hasn't been overwhelmingly Christian for a long long time. Most muslim kids I know assimilated pretty well. Their parents didn't, but the new generation does understand European values and they do assimilate.

Granted there are some problems but that has to do with the fact that immigrants are usually not very wealthy, so it doesn't have anything to do with their being Muslim or immigrants but with being poor.

Restless Soul

The ignorance thing was pure comedy - such as the guy who thought there were ten eiffel towers in paris or the one that didn't realise that kentucky fried chicken was from Kentucky or the guy who named three us states as the axis of evil.

The other comments about bombing/nuking other countries just made my blood boil. There is a point when ignorance stops being funny and starts becoming dangerous - I guess by electing bush twice the US has already gone past that point a long time ago.

Collin

CorporateWhore wrote:

Their religion does not support individual liberty at all. All rights come from the Koran and Islamic law, not the Natural Law.

Have you actually read the Koran?

And once they move here their right are the same as mine so what's your point?

CorporateWhore

Collin wrote:

Granted there are some problems but that has to do with the fact that immigrants are usually not very wealthy, so it doesn't have anything to do with their being Muslim or immigrants but with being poor.

The new generation assimilates? Bullshit.

What about the muslim youth that were born, raised, and educated in Britain only to blow themselves up in the Underground? Was it because they couldn't find a job that they did that?

Or was it because they were raised in Islamic extremism, with no love or patriotism of Britain? They were Arabs first, not Britons.

You socialists can claim all you want that the Muslims are not assimilating because they're "just not very wealthy," but when your country goes back into the stoneages after a majority of Muslims impose Islamic law on you, I won't be surprised at all.

The real reason those Muslims can't assimilate is because their culture and traditions are COMPLETELY and DIAMETRICALLY opposed to European culture and traditions. It is borne out in the fact that Muslim youth in Britain, Holland, France, Germany, and a host of other European nations have completely failed to assimilate. The other poor people in those countries don't start riots or murder those who oppose them.

To Europeans I say, do not walk gently into that good night.