Cyber bullying

Jeanie

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I'll PM you my answer. But I'm sure you already know it or have heard of it.

Thanks.

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

Yes.

fair enough. then i stand corrected and i apologise for my presumption.

Jeanie

gue_barium wrote:

Of course.

I remember the days on this board when someone may have been skipping along on some sort of high, a post a minute sort of thing, and then all of the sudden there would be a reply from a jealous and quivering NeanderthalMAN sort of guy saying, "I'm calling you out, man!"
And it meant something.
Those were the days. LOL.

I have nothing to compare to gue, so I can only go by my experience of the pit in the now.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

well i dont pretend it doesn't happen jeanie but by the same token, ive never been the victim of cyberbullying.
and as if you say some people are in physical danger from cyberbullies then they have to make the decision as to what course of action to take. if they choose to engage the cyber bully then that is their choice and they must be prepared to accept the outcomes of that action. im not trying to absolve bullies from responsibility either, because they are also responsible for their actions. if the mods choose not to ban a bully then the only thing to be done that i can see is to ignore them.

No I know you're not pretending it doesn't happen, I'm just saying that your experience and way of dealing with it, should it happen to you, would be vastly different to some other people. And that's fine, neither of you is right or wrong. Just different.
I'm not sure about the other point you make about not engaging them or having to be prepared for the outcome. I realize you're not trying to absolve anyone from the behaviour, or from their choices. I'm simply thinking about how we are all different and respond to things differently and are affected by things differently and perhaps it would be worth while discussing ways to handle cyber bullying that would be helpful for people that aren't able to respond or articulate themselves well in that kind of situation? I think what Roland was saying before about bullies and the ramifications of some of their actions is really worthwhile. I mean if we don't learn from the horrible things that have happened in other places on the internet are we not just inviting it to happen again? I just wondered how we would even go about changing things if we, the participants of the board, weren't even acknowledging it as a group? Perhaps amongst ourselves we've talked about it but we've not all had a group discussion about it. I don't know I was just thinking about the Allanah & Madeline Foundation and the initiatives that they've implimented in relation to bullying in schools and so forth for children and I was thinking that the first tool of change is awareness.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

fair enough. then i stand corrected and i apologise for my presumption.

No need to apologize, it was a reasonable assumption to make. Just not correct in this case. It's no biggy.

dunkman

i suppose there is on here... as Finsy said they form cliques and then they get banned.

i think you'd need to be kinda weak to be cyber-bullied.. i have been caustic with posts but bullying would mean a habitual hunting down of someone just to ridicule their posts and i can only think of one corpulent retard who does that on here

genie

Trailer wrote:

Yeah, I like soulsinging posts because they have character to them. What fun would this forum be if everyone was kissing eachother's asses?

we don't have to kiss each other's asses. Soulsinging just comes across tactless, that's why some people get offended.

genie

Trailer wrote:

haha You pissed me off once back when I first started posting on here.. but now I think you're a funny guy

yep, sometimes it happens so that the person is just a joker but he/she gets taken seriously, thats where the problem starts.

genie

Jeanie wrote:

Well for starters there are laws to protect people from that kind of crap in life.
AND quite apart from that I'm sure that most of the abhorent behaviour that individuals utilize on the web probably wouldn't happen in day to day life anyway.

Jeanie my dear as much as i think your cause is good i think we should let it be. As Catefrances said just swith off computer, and come back when feeling stronger.

Sure there were times when i've felt being personally attacked, but it's internet....it's virtual world. I don't take too seriously, because at the end of the day i know it's not real life.

real bullying on the other hand especially in schools should be wiped out, cause a lot of kids get fucked up because of it

genie

Jeanie wrote:

no! no! the thread really isn't personal.

I'm just wanting clarification of a few things is all.

really? if someone does bully you then they should be fucking ashamed of themselves. i can't see how anyone can bully such a nice woman like you

urbanhippie

I haven't been posting on here long. And when I first started I was nervous of certain people.

But you know what? Fuck 'em. I f the most important thing they've got to do all day is take the piss or be rude to someone they don't even know..... Well, they've got pretty sad lives is all I can say.

If someone disagrees with my views or thinks I'm a twat....Well, I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.

genie

soulsinging wrote:

i think the mods do a pretty good job figuring when that line is crossed.

yeah but they get it wrong when they close down some random threads and such threads like "pussy thread" :mad:

MattCameronKicksButt

I find it amazing that the same people that don't understand what cyber bullying is, are the same people that don't understand what constitutes as bullying in real life.

I like the way it says cyber bullies COULD face up to two years in prison for threatening people. Did you read that dunk?

genie

dunkman wrote:

i have been caustic with posts but bullying would mean a habitual hunting down of someone just to ridicule their posts and i can only think of one corpulent retard who does that on here

shit somehow i feel that this can be said about me. i have on occasions stalked and tried to abuse people, but then i'm not very good at offending people. i don't think anyone ever got upset over something i've said. but then i do get bored of stalking the same person for more than 4 days so i move on.

but i think onelongsong deserves everything he gets, hopefully i'll be able to annoy him......just haven't been on the same threads he's been on.;) but i certainly will never forget the one i've seen though

Heineken Helen

gue_barium wrote:

I don't think there is such a thing as cyber bullying, at least not on a message board. Or, at least not on an adult level.
Politics might disagree with my view.

I agree... I can't see how it would work. I can't see how any adult who's right in the head could possibly be affected by anything someone says to them on a message board. I have seen before though where I've spoken my mind to somebody who may be part of a certain clique and then I notice a change in the ENTIRE clique towards me... to the extent where one or two seemed to have followed me into threads and commented on quite a few of my posts... but I just find it funny and childlike... I can't see how anyone could actually take it to heart .

Unless there's a whole different level that I'm not aware of

Heineken Helen

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

If differs when it becomes an ongoing personal issue between personalities where the underlying purpose is to attack the individuals character itself, rather than what the person is actually saying, or the motive is to inflict emotional distress rather than have an actual discussion. It's a bit of a fine line, but if you take the same conversation as a face to face interaction, it quickly comes into perspective when all traces of sarcasm or humor are removed from the equation. It may not be as successful online, but the intent or will to cause intentional harm, can definitely be present.

Yeh, I can see this point. I've had someone take a dislike to me over some disagreement in a thread... and try and carry that disagreement into other threads and twist my words. I don't care. I can disagree with someone in one thread and get on great in the next. There is usually at least one thing that I agree with everybody on so once they find that they usually get over their little problem.

Heineken Helen

Jeanie wrote:

Well you're saying that we have the option to walk away from the board if we are being bullied, and that's true we do. However if we are also enjoying our time spent here in other areas why should we do that? Particularly if the person being the bully is able to continue on with a new "victim", completely unfettered and still displaying the behaviour. How does the bully learn that the behaviour isn't acceptable, how do those that watch it happen and see the outcome, ie the victim walking away, as anything other than a tacit agreement that the behaviour is acceptable and the only way to stop it is by walking away?

I would suggest that anyone here who's being bullied should pm me and allow me to sort it out

I LOVE dealing with people like that oh yeh!

MattCameronKicksButt

Heineken Helen wrote:

I agree... I can't see how it would work. I can't see how any adult who's right in the head could possibly be affected by anything someone says to them on a message board. I have seen before though where I've spoken my mind to somebody who may be part of a certain clique and then I notice a change in the ENTIRE clique towards me... to the extent where one or two seemed to have followed me into threads and commented on quite a few of my posts... but I just find it funny and childlike... I can't see how anyone could actually take it to heart .

Unless there's a whole different level that I'm not aware of

When I first joined I used to take things personally but I know better now. Some people still annoy me though. I know there have been threats on here. It's not really a big deal I guess but it might upset some people and apparently, legal action can be taken.

God, I sound so liberal. :eek:
Just some thought for others is what I'd like to see.

Heineken Helen

MattCameronKicksButt wrote:

When I first joined I used to take things personally but I know better now. Some people still annoy me though. I know there have been threats on here. It's not really a big deal I guess but it might upset some people and apparently, legal action can be taken.

God, I sound so liberal. :eek:
Just some thought for others is what I'd like to see.

ah yeh, I used to take some things personally too but ya soon get over that... and even back then I wouldn't have seen ANY of it as bullying, just ignorance really.

MattCameronKicksButt

Heineken Helen wrote:

ah yeh, I used to take some things personally too but ya soon get over that... and even back then I wouldn't have seen ANY of it as bullying, just ignorance really.

Well it depends on your definition of bullying. Our Western governments are a bit over the top in trying not to upset anyone, which was my first thought when I read that article but, like I said, I just wish people would think a bit more. Anyone can form an opinion on someone and then open their mouths and go 'blah, blah, blah'.