Nelson come out this morning supporting an apology to the Koorie's, ratifing Kyoto and him and Joe Hockey have agrred to a roll back in Workchoices.........................I'm scared..........
Are you sure.. I've read on thursday he disagrees with an apology "this generation shouldn't apologise for something a previous generation did".. he also disagreed with rolling back work choices.. only thing he agreed with was kyoto.. ill be damned if they managed to changed their mind this much in half a day
Are you sure.. I've read on thursday he disagrees with an apology "this generation shouldn't apologise for something a previous generation did".. he also disagreed with rolling back work choices.. only thing he agreed with was kyoto.. ill be damned if they managed to changed their mind this much in half a day
hmm well perish the thought that a current generation see a wrong and try to right it. bloody politicians.
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Well you know in my case I don't have anything to apologise about my father flew here he didnt grow here!
what the hell has that got to do with anything? you're australian aren't you? you can see that the indigenous peoples were treated horrendously. and im sure you can see what an apology for/acknowledgement of previous wrongs(even though 'we' didn't do anything) admission would represent.
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what the hell has that got to do with anything? you're australian aren't you? you can see that the indigenous peoples were treated horrendously. and im sure you can see what an apology for/acknowledgement of previous wrongs(even though 'we' didn't do anything) admission would represent.
I was joking! I was trying to echo "we didn't do it so we don't need to apologize" bit.
Nelson come out this morning supporting an apology to the Koorie's, ratifing Kyoto and him and Joe Hockey have agrred to a roll back in Workchoices.........................I'm scared..........
Last I saw of him was last night on the ABC where they'd put together a piece with file footage of him saying repeatedly whilst head of the AMA that he would NEVER vote LIBERAL!!! hahahaha!
He also said that he felt there was nothing to apologize for???
Last I saw of him was last night on the ABC where they'd put together a piece with file footage of him saying repeatedly whilst head of the AMA that he would NEVER vote LIBERAL!!! : D hahahaha! : D
He also said that he felt there was nothing to apologize for??? : confused:
So maybe he's changed his tune over night again?
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I'm so pleased it's Julia. I really like her despite the fact she's a Labor MP.
I couldn't be more pleased than if Natasha had managed it or Kerry Nettle.
This is a HUGE moment in Aussie Politics AND history!
I'm so pleased it's Julia. I really like her despite the fact she's a Labor MP.
I couldn't be more pleased than if Natasha had managed it or Kerry Nettle. : )
This is a HUGE moment in Aussie Politics AND history! : )
LMAO!!!!! youre so silly sometimes girlie.
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Oh no Scott. Don't think I have been insular from the racism. Or the bad behaviour from people black, white or purple even. Trust me.
I wasn't suggesting that you'd been insulated from racism, just from negative experiences with aboriginal people. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Its the same in any community with different cultural and economic groups in it.
I was thinking of experiences I've had. For example, in high school I was involved in peer tutoring program to help kids that were behind in school to catch up. I used to tutor this black kid who was a couple of years younger than me. Basically all it involved was sitting with him for an hour on a monday morning and listening to him read, correcting him when he got words wrong etc. He's always tell me all about his weekend, which he usually seemed to spend camping on the riverbank with his uncles, fishing. He was a nice kid. But a few years later he'd been caught up in the rift that seems to happen (so had I probably), and when he was with his mates they'd call me a 'white cunt'. . . I don't know. It makes no sense to me now, thinking back on it.
Maybe an apology will help. I doubt it though. It'll only help if aboriginal people are willing to accept it, and both sides give the other a chance to move on. I just don't feel like its going to be anywhere near that simple.
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I wasn't suggesting that you'd been insulated from racism, just from negative experiences with aboriginal people. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Its the same in any community with different cultural and economic groups in it.
I was thinking of experiences I've had. For example, in high school I was involved in peer tutoring program to help kids that were behind in school to catch up. I used to tutor this black kid who was a couple of years younger than me. Basically all it involved was sitting with him for an hour on a monday morning and listening to him read, correcting him when he got words wrong etc. He's always tell me all about his weekend, which he usually seemed to spend camping on the riverbank with his uncles, fishing. He was a nice kid. But a few years later he'd been caught up in the rift that seems to happen (so had I probably), and when he was with his mates they'd call me a 'white cunt'. . . I don't know. It makes no sense to me now, thinking back on it.
Maybe an apology will help. I doubt it though. It'll only help if aboriginal people are willing to accept it, and both sides give the other a chance to move on. I just don't feel like its going to be anywhere near that simple.
Yeah, I can't say I've had that many negative experiences with Aboriginal people. Not unless you count that I'm still dirty on that girl from High School that borrrowed one of my favorite sundresses and never returned it. AND even had the temerity to walk past me in the street one day with it on! :rolleyes: But big shit. Plenty of things like that go on in a life. And it was just a dress. (although I was really fond of it. ) I figured she was probably having a shitty time of it and what's a dress anyway?
But I understand what you're saying Scott. And I've not experienced anything like that. I do know it goes on.
What happened with the kid you were tutoring, well that probably had a lot to do with peer group pressure. He'd be fine on his own but not want to deviate from the group in public. He probably felt like a right little bastard.
And it is cowardly. But people do really dumb things sometimes.
I just see it as a clearing of the air and a chance to step forward together you know? Like ok, that was then, we're sorry for that, now please can we get on with the future together? I have no idea if that will even work, but at least if we try and it doesn't well we'll know that we tried.
If we were to shut down every fuel or elictricity driven device in OZ, it would barely be noticable when it comes to global warming. Oz makes up about .1% (yup, thas point one percent) of waste emissions on the planet.
Kyoto Shmee-oto. Yep, thanks for signing that Kev.
Alls its done is all but pushed electricity prices up. and its about to happen.
Rudd is a fucking rice bubble and will undo everything good that the Howard govt has achieved. Even political analysts (and pre election pro rudders) are already saying,,, gee, maybe rudd wasnt such a great choice afterall.
Time will tell but I just HOPE Rudds victory wont come back to bite those on the arse that voted for him but alas.........
BTW I didnt vote for him. If it bites my arse I will blame those intelectually shabby, latte sipping mummies boys/girls who did vote him in.
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Are you sure.. I've read on thursday he disagrees with an apology "this generation shouldn't apologise for something a previous generation did".. he also disagreed with rolling back work choices.. only thing he agreed with was kyoto.. ill be damned if they managed to changed their mind this much in half a day
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/nelsons-victory-puts-turnbull-on-deck/2007/11/29/1196037074481.html
Well you know in my case I don't have anything to apologise about
what the hell has that got to do with anything? you're australian aren't you? you can see that the indigenous peoples were treated horrendously. and im sure you can see what an apology for/acknowledgement of previous wrongs(even though 'we' didn't do anything) admission would represent.
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I was joking!
yep i got that too late.
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Well nothing a beer or scotch can't remedy
not to mention a rockin' live band.
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Last I saw of him was last night on the ABC where they'd put together a piece with file footage of him saying repeatedly whilst head of the AMA that he would NEVER vote LIBERAL!!!
He also said that he felt there was nothing to apologize for???
So maybe he's changed his tune over night again?
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I've only just realized! WE have our first EVER woman Deputy Prime Minister!!!
WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!
http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22822487-948,00.html?from=mostpop
I'm so pleased it's Julia. I really like her despite the fact she's a Labor MP.
I couldn't be more pleased than if Natasha had managed it or Kerry Nettle.
This is a HUGE moment in Aussie Politics AND history!
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He said it!
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LMAO!!!!! youre so silly sometimes girlie.
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Thought this was a good spot for it!
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=zTpGgItl4hI
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COME ON CATE!!! This is Oz-straaaaayy-lee-Uh!!
Did you EVER think you'd see this day???
It's only taken a hundred bloody years since the suffragette's first fought for us to get a vote!
This is a good thing! Actually, THIS IS A FUCKING AWESOME THING!!
And the more I think about it, the happier I am about it. I mean IMAGINE if it had been Bronwyn Bigjobs or something??? :eek:
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I wasn't suggesting that you'd been insulated from racism, just from negative experiences with aboriginal people. But yeah, I understand what you're saying. Its the same in any community with different cultural and economic groups in it.
I was thinking of experiences I've had. For example, in high school I was involved in peer tutoring program to help kids that were behind in school to catch up. I used to tutor this black kid who was a couple of years younger than me. Basically all it involved was sitting with him for an hour on a monday morning and listening to him read, correcting him when he got words wrong etc. He's always tell me all about his weekend, which he usually seemed to spend camping on the riverbank with his uncles, fishing. He was a nice kid. But a few years later he'd been caught up in the rift that seems to happen (so had I probably), and when he was with his mates they'd call me a 'white cunt'. . . I don't know. It makes no sense to me now, thinking back on it.
Maybe an apology will help. I doubt it though. It'll only help if aboriginal people are willing to accept it, and both sides give the other a chance to move on. I just don't feel like its going to be anywhere near that simple.
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actually yeah i did think we'd see this day.
but you know my philosophy is anything boys can do girls can do better. we just have to trick them into thinking it was their idea.
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But I understand what you're saying Scott. And I've not experienced anything like that. I do know it goes on.
What happened with the kid you were tutoring, well that probably had a lot to do with peer group pressure. He'd be fine on his own but not want to deviate from the group in public. He probably felt like a right little bastard.
And it is cowardly. But people do really dumb things sometimes.
I just see it as a clearing of the air and a chance to step forward together you know? Like ok, that was then, we're sorry for that, now please can we get on with the future together? I have no idea if that will even work, but at least if we try and it doesn't well we'll know that we tried.
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Well I was starting to wonder. I mean geez, how long does it take??? :rolleyes:
You're not giving away secrets now are you cate?
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well you know weve only been an actual country for 106 years. all good things come to those who wait...patiently.
and like ive told you before girlie, if more than one person knows, it ain't a secret anymore.
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pfft!
So how we gonna trick em if it's not a secret anymore?
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well the actual methods of subterfuge are still closely guarded, so with a little oblique coaxing, we'll get what we want.
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Mwah hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
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The things you never thought you'd see!
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Apparently that was step 4 out of 6.. 2 more steps to go
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Kyoto Shmee-oto. Yep, thanks for signing that Kev.
Alls its done is all but pushed electricity prices up. and its about to happen.
Rudd is a fucking rice bubble and will undo everything good that the Howard govt has achieved. Even political analysts (and pre election pro rudders) are already saying,,, gee, maybe rudd wasnt such a great choice afterall.
Time will tell but I just HOPE Rudds victory wont come back to bite those on the arse that voted for him but alas.........
BTW I didnt vote for him. If it bites my arse I will blame those intelectually shabby, latte sipping mummies boys/girls who did vote him in.
Pearler forsees the worst.
fuckers.
One of them might be a code of conduct for his ministers.
He's tapdancing around this one. Why ? Because he isnt a leader ?
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