Australian Federal Election 24 November 2007

Austicman

polaris wrote:

hopefully, canadians will realize we are out of step!! ... and soon we will move back to the left ...

now, we can't use australia as another reason to not act on climate change!

this is exciting news (although honestly, i don't know enough of rudd) - climate change and troop withdrawl are good foundation for a campaign!

only problem here is that the 65% of the population that lean left are splitting their votes amongst 4 parties ... :(

Well for starters Peter Garrett is his Minister for the Enviroment.

Kevin's first order of business is to ratify the Kyoto Agreement.

Number two is too bring the troops home from Iraq. Meaning he won't be replacing the current troops once they finish their Tour of Duty in about May-June 08 I think.

A few points of interest:

John Howard has all but lost his seat of Bennelong.

The Greens increased there primary vote.

The Democrats(the australian democrats were once the balance of power in the senate) were all but wiped off the political map.

catefrances

Austicman wrote:

Well for starters Peter Garrett is his Minister for the Enviroment.

Kevin's first order of business is to ratify the Kyoto Agreement.

Number two is too bring the troops home from Iraq. Meaning he won't be replacing the current troops once they finish their Tour of Duty in about May-June 08 I think.

A few points of interest:

John Howard has all but lost his seat of Bennelong.

The Greens increased there primary vote.

The Democrats(the australian democrats were once the balance of power in the senate) were all but wiped off the political map.

no no. to me ted, bringing the troops home means BRING THEM HOME NOW, not when their tour of duty is over.

you know my eldest was watching howards concession speech last night and she said she felt sorry for him. i looked at her and said we lost antoher soldier in afghanistan yesterday, so he doesnt deserve your pity. she's like, yeah i know.

anyhoo she voted green on my recommendation.

Blyss

catefrances wrote:

no no. to me ted, bringing the troops home means BRING THEM HOME NOW, not when their tour of duty is over.

you know my eldest was watching howards concession speech last night and she said she felt sorry for him. i looked at her and said we lost antoher soldier in afghanistan yesterday, so he doesnt deserve your pity. she's like, yeah i know.

anyhoo she voted green on my recommendation.

That's why he's stayed in for so long, he's so convincing isn't he? Even after everything that i fundamentally disagree with iraq, david hicks, the incidents of wrongful detention and the way that was handled, etc. etc. etc. and i really did feel sorry for him when he made the speech, and i don't know why he must just have something personable about him it's hard not to like him and yet there is so much to not like. But maybe that's just my weird take on it.

Austicman

catefrances wrote:

no no. to me ted, bringing the troops home means BRING THEM HOME NOW, not when their tour of duty is over.

you know my eldest was watching howards concession speech last night and she said she felt sorry for him. i looked at her and said we lost antoher soldier in afghanistan yesterday, so he doesnt deserve your pity. she's like, yeah i know.

anyhoo she voted green on my recommendation.

Well your talking about bringing all the troops home. I support our troops being in Afganistan while the Taliban are still a force there. Their a backward sexually oppresive force that needs to be taken out. It's where the forces of the world should've be concentrating on instead of Dubah's personal vendetta. Can only imagaine the what the world of today would look like if Afganistan and the Taliban was the focal point of the worlds "war on terror".

catefrances

Austicman wrote:

Well your talking about bringing all the troops home. I support our troops being in Afganistan while the Taliban are still a force there. Their a backward sexually oppresive force that needs to be taken out. It's where the forces of the world should've be concentrating on instead of Dubah's personal vendetta. Can only imagaine the what the world of today would look like if Afganistan and the Taliban was the focal point of the worlds "war on terror".

dont talk politics with me ted unless you can keep up. i know what the taliban are. i know how repressive they are. i know the backroom deals that go on. the taliban are no different than the saudis, so how come we dont feel the need to go sort them out?
the world would be no different without the taliban, but afghanistan would be. maybe. who knows with the bullshit thats going on. dont try and justify our presence in afghanistan to me. i have no confidence in men as far as womens issues are concerned regardless of what country were talking about.

Austicman

catefrances wrote:

dont talk politics with me ted unless you can keep up. i know what the taliban are. i know how repressive they are. i know the backroom deals that go on. the taliban are no different than the saudis, so how come we dont feel the need to go sort them out?
the world would be no different without the taliban, but afghanistan would be. maybe. who knows with the bullshit thats going on. dont try and justify our presence in afghanistan to me. i have no confidence in men as far as womens issues are concerned regardless of what country were talking about.

Don't you mean don't talk politics with me unless I agree with you?

Don't speak to me like I'm some political noice cate.

catefrances

Austicman wrote:

Don't you mean don't talk politics with me unless I agree with you?

Don't speak to me like I'm some political noice cate.

no ted thats not what i mean. you know better than that. and i dont think youre a political novice. im not that ill mannered.

your post read as if you thought perhaps i was unaware of what the taliban get up to or that i needed reminding. i certainly didnt mean to sound condescending and for that i apologise.

and damn straight im talking about bringing ALL the troops home.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

no no. to me ted, bringing the troops home means BRING THEM HOME NOW, not when their tour of duty is over.

you know my eldest was watching howards concession speech last night and she said she felt sorry for him. i looked at her and said we lost antoher soldier in afghanistan yesterday, so he doesnt deserve your pity. she's like, yeah i know.

anyhoo she voted green on my recommendation.

But isn't it going to be impossible to pull them out until next year because of the senate, that and ratify Kyoto. So theres not much he can do until next year.

catefrances

NoK wrote:

But isn't it going to be impossible to pull them out until next year because of the senate, that and ratify Kyoto. So theres not much he can do until next year.

nothings impossible.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

nothings impossible.

True. How about "highly unlikely"?

catefrances

NoK wrote:

True. How about "highly unlikely"?

i guess when it comes to some things im just not diplomatic enough to be a politician.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

i guess when it comes to some things im just not diplomatic enough to be a politician.

You would walk into parliament, place a handgun on your desk and ask them politely to support your decision?

catefrances

NoK wrote:

You would walk into parliament, place a handgun on your desk and ask them politely to support your decision?

i wouldnt need a handgun.

besides im not supportive of an armed populace.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

i wouldnt need a handgun.

besides im not supportive of an armed populace.

Are you able to disclose the means you would use or are they two secretive?

I'm sure the top interrogators of the country would be interested.

catefrances

NoK wrote:

Are you able to disclose the means you would use or are they two secretive?

I'm sure the top interrogators of the country would be interested.

i could tell you. but then id have to kill you.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

i could tell you. but then id have to kill you.

well now I'll just have to decide if its worth it! Still waiting to see if I owe you a double scotch..

catefrances

NoK wrote:

well now I'll just have to decide if its worth it! Still waiting to see if I owe you a double scotch..

i think you should buy me the scotch anyway.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

i think you should buy me the scotch anyway.

Sure why not.. Labor won after all

Edit: and the GREENS increased their primary vote

catefrances

NoK wrote:

Sure why not.. Labor won after all : D

Edit: and the GREENS increased their primary vote

YEAH!! environmental extremists.

now...about that drink.

NoK

catefrances wrote:

YEAH!! environmental extremists.

now...about that drink.

Of course! It was rumoured that instead of using olive branches to convey peace they used them to beat their opponents down.

Edit: And about that drink... what about it