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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    dg1979us wrote:
    They didnt fly into the airport. And how do you know how difficult it is? Are you a pilot? Just curious.

    Correct, however that entire area is very difficult to navigate without and without is the key word in not hitting anything along the way. It takes tremendous skillls and experience to accomplish that.

    Have you seen that area or even flew into that area and what it takes to fly into that congested area. Notice I said area. :)

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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    g under p wrote:
    Correct, however that entire is very difficult to navigate without and without is the key word in not hitting anything along the way. It takes tremendous skillls and experience to accomplish that.

    Have you seen that area or even flew into that area and what it takes to fly into that congested area. Notice I said area. :)

    Peace


    But are you a pilot? Seriously, if you arent a pilot why should I take your word on how difficult it is to fly into the area? And Im not being a smartass at all, I respect your opinion. But, if you arent an expert in the field, then your opinion on the matter is no better than mine or anyone elses. And, most people who fly into the area are trying to land properly, not crash the plane. I would venture to guess it takes a bit more skill to land safely than it does to crash.
  • g under p wrote:
    Yes you are correct the exact same one who was supposedly flew into the Pentagon. That instuctors' flight school was not far from my house in MD and he stated he was the worse student he had.

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    Well that adds up.... I've heard several veteran airline pilots comment that they would have a hard time pulling that maneuver off, if it was at all possible, and whomever was flying that plane had to be an exceptional pilot (with a lot of experience flying commercial jets).

    I guess that day really was a first for so many things. What does that bring the odds to? 1 in how many trillions now? hehe
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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Well that adds up.... I've heard several veteran airline pilots comment that they would have a hard time pulling that maneuver off, if it was at all possible, and whomever was flying that plane had to be an exceptional pilot (with a lot of experience flying commercial jets).

    I guess that day really was a first for so many things. What does that bring the odds to? 1 in how many trillions now? hehe


    These random phrases attributed to people who arent even named, adds up for you?
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Well that adds up.... I've heard several veteran airline pilots comment that they would have a hard time pulling that maneuver off, if it was at all possible, and whomever was flying that plane had to be an exceptional pilot (with a lot of experience flying commercial jets).

    I guess that day really was a first for so many things. What does that bring the odds to? 1 in how many trillions now? hehe


    what if the intention of the terrorist who crashed into the pentagon was NOT to hit the outer wall? what if his target was the inner courtyard?
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    dg1979us wrote:
    But are you a pilot? Seriously, if you arent a pilot why should I take your word on how difficult it is to fly into the area? And Im not being a smartass at all, I respect your opinion. But, if you arent an expert in the field, then your opinion on the matter is no better than mine or anyone elses. And, most people who fly into the area are trying to land properly, not crash the plane. I would venture to guess it takes a bit more skill to land safely than it does to crash.

    Exactly, however try crashing into anything in that area without hitting ANYTHING along the way to your target. Now THAT takes some skill and experience.

    Later peeps have a great day I'm on my way to work at the beach and our nearby pool. I'll check back in later, enjoy your part of the world.

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  • dg1979us wrote:
    These random phrases attributed to people who arent even named, adds up for you?


    Video testimony.

    It's a widely held belief. If you get the chance ask any pilot you know. they will tell you if it's easy or even sounds likely from reported the flight path.

    that lawn sure looked untouched and perfect.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • what if the intention of the terrorist who crashed into the pentagon was NOT to hit the outer wall? what if his target was the inner courtyard?

    That would be easier and a lot more likely to happen in real life, but where he hit and the angle it came in at ...low and flat v.s. downwards from above at an angle, it was obviously not what they tried to do.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    Video testimony.

    It's a widely held belief. If you get the chance ask any pilot you know. they will tell you if it's easy or even sounds likely from reported the flight path.

    that lawn sure looked untouched and perfect.

    So, because it isnt easy that means it didnt happen? This is the theory you are going with?
  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    That would be easier and a lot more likely to happen in real life, but where he hit and the angle it came in at ...low and flat v.s. downwards from above at an angle, it was obviously not what they tried to do.


    You just said they couldnt fly the plane properly. Now, you are saying because he hit at a certain angle that you know his intentions. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. If he couldnt fly properly, how do you know he didnt screw up and hit at an angle he didnt intend to?
  • dg1979us wrote:
    So, because it isnt easy that means it didnt happen? This is the theory you are going with?


    If he was a shitty pilot with no experience, and it required an excellent one with a lot...well uh...hmm

    Then there's the confiscated and concealed videos...of which would have also seen what happened.

    something ain't right here, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that much out,
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  • dg1979us wrote:
    You just said they couldnt fly the plane properly. Now, you are saying because he hit at a certain angle that you know his intentions. You are talking out of both sides of your mouth. If he couldnt fly properly, how do you know he didnt screw up and hit at an angle he didnt intend to?


    your logic is broken... think more about it...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    your logic is broken... think more about it...


    No, your talking out of both sides of your mouth. Was he a shitty pilot, or was he good enough to fly at that direct angle that is apparently so difficult to hit? Answer that for me.
  • dg1979us wrote:
    No, your talking out of both sides of your mouth. Was he a shitty pilot, or was he good enough to fly at that direct angle that is apparently so difficult to hit? Answer that for me.

    He certainly wasn't good enough to fly that angle... and yes he was a shitty pilot.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • dg1979usdg1979us Posts: 568
    He certainly wasn't good enough to fly that angle... and yes he was a shitty pilot.

    Ok, so maybe he screwed up and didnt intend to fly in at that angle. You are at least acknowledging thats a possibility, correct?
  • KosmicJelliKosmicJelli Posts: 1,855
    What would be the difference? We will never have a one billioneth of a sense what our government does and whose puppets we are. go out live your life by example and hope others follow suit....
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    dg1979us wrote:
    Ok, so maybe he screwed up and didnt intend to fly in at that angle. You are at least acknowledging thats a possibility, correct?

    Maybe he was so terrible of a pilot he was trying to hit the Capitol or White Hosue and lucked out and hit the Pentagon...or not
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    That would be easier and a lot more likely to happen in real life, but where he hit and the angle it came in at ...low and flat v.s. downwards from above at an angle, it was obviously not what they tried to do.

    but we dont know his intention cause we cant ask him. tis my contention he fucked up and crashed into the outer wall by mistake. but cause i cant ask him tis only an unsubstantiated theory and will remain so i imagine. :)
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    did you study ebonics? anyway, I dont understand what you think is so difficult to find a huge penatgon shaped building from the air. and you keep mentioning 30,000 feet.....why? you say this as if they were flying at regulation altitude and speed.

    you know absolutely nothing about the hijackers personally. they could have been studying flight paths, flight training, coordinates (SP?), topography, etc.

    but all you can come up with is saying, if I'm too stupid and blind to ever pull off a move like that, it must have been a conspiracy.


    Wasn't ebonics the American language after they dumbed down the public by taking the u's out of words. Yeah!

    some 3000 suckers were in the wrong spot at the right time. your government thrives on complacent people such as yourself to believe the line and not question authority. of which you are an obiedient young boy. with your economy tanking and bush in his last throes of an eight year fuck up, may i advise you to steer clear of say the sears tower as that is a supposed target and what does your government really have to lose at this point.

    amazing the picture you keep posting has an a camera man and a piece of unidentified metal about 20 feet apart at one of the most "secure" crime scenes on the planet. odd that is i think you may have to agree. but not on that day. a day where a lot was different and you think it was the status quo.

    from all the planes being on training, people in the basement of the trade centers with burns and hearing explosions, no radar to guide planes, a hatched plan in a cave, your fbi losing the "terrorists" after they entered the us, passports being found from the towers on the street, police and firemen claiming explosions, a rich guy who dosen't care about life saying they pulled the building, a stunt flight to line up in a strike mode at the pentagon, stocks that were on a put and never collected, so much more and people take the story for what it is. the government pets people like that on the head and gives them a tax break and more fear of terror.

    see you next tuesday or somewhere in between, in another thread.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    even flow? wrote:
    Wasn't ebonics the American language after they dumbed down the public by taking the u's out of words. Yeah!
    you have serious issues with 7th grade speaking and writing skills. I suggest you do something about it. Unless you dont mind looking like a complete idiot.
    even flow? wrote:
    some 3000 suckers were in the wrong spot at the right time. your government thrives on complacent people such as yourself to believe the line and not question authority. of which you are an obiedient young boy. with your economy tanking and bush in his last throes of an eight year fuck up, may i advise you to steer clear of say the sears tower as that is a supposed target and what does your government really have to lose at this point.
    so you are now suggesting a secret government plot to blow up the sears tower? nice. you are a bigger asshole then I thought. and as for being "obedient", I happen to look at the facts and evidence that is widely available and have been able to conclude on my own that el queda was behind the attack. never have I thought the government has been honest in what happen, what they knew, and admitting the mistakes in failing to stop it from happening. the government fucked up that day. The FBI and CIA didn't even communicate with each other. there was no dept of homeland security. chalk one up for the terrorists that day. they got us, and got us good.
    even flow? wrote:
    amazing the picture you keep posting has an a camera man and a piece of unidentified metal about 20 feet apart at one of the most "secure" crime scenes on the planet. odd that is i think you may have to agree. but not on that day. a day where a lot was different and you think it was the status quo.
    whats so amazing about it? there were camera men all over the place that morning. this crime scene was in complete chaos. and that "unidentified" piece of mental has been identified. ITS A FUCKING PIECE OF THE PLANE. amazing amount of density in some of you people.
    even flow? wrote:
    from all the planes being on training,
    ?
    even flow? wrote:
    people in the basement of the trade centers with burns and hearing explosions,
    have you spoken to one? or maybe obediently being a good alex jones solider boy? large pieces of debris, as well as people, were falling from two 110 story buildings...the sounds of explosions were certainly possible. but you seem to think its the government bombs that people were hearing right?
    even flow? wrote:
    no radar to guide planes,
    you seem to be a flight expert. are you a pilot?
    even flow? wrote:
    a hatched plan in a cave,

    thats all they have in afghainstan. why does this become part of your conspiracy theory? did they need a board room and leather chairs to hatch up such a plan?
    even flow? wrote:
    your fbi losing the "terrorists" after they entered the us,
    amazing isnt it? the incompetent FBI making a mistake. shocker.
    even flow? wrote:
    passports being found from the towers on the street,
    did you see the amount of paper flying in the air that day? I did.
    even flow? wrote:
    police and firemen claiming explosions,
    you must be talking about the government bombs again?
    even flow? wrote:
    a rich guy who dosen't care about life saying they pulled the building,
    yes he said that and how do you know he doest care about life? that building they "pulled" did not kill or even hurt a single person. not 1.
    even flow? wrote:
    a stunt flight to line up in a strike mode at the pentagon,
    huh? an airplane, flight 77, hit the pentagon that morning yes.
    even flow? wrote:
    stocks that were on a put and never collected,
    this proves what? that people trade commodities.
    even flow? wrote:
    so much more
    such as?
    even flow? wrote:
    and people take the story for what it is.
    that el queda attacked us? yes thats the story.
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