if it was discovered that the US govt was complicit...

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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    How can it be somewhere if it never existed? So you are positive that a plane hit the building. OK where was the plane wreckage? Bodies? Seats? Just tell me.

    Flight 77 did exist. People are missing their loved ones. There were people on a flight. Where are they? Where is the plane?

    I wish I could point to the wreckage. As I mentioned, lots of unanswered questions. But that doesn't mean we need to make up fairy tales.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jlew24asu wrote:
    your right I cant. bombs where planted in building 7 and a missile hit the pentagon. and the secret government program called "Lazor beam Express" took down WTC 1 & 2.



    if you ever find time to get your head out of your ass, try and study the structural engineering of the construction of building 7. my guess is you no nothing about it.

    and try to explain to the countless eye witnesses who actually saw a plane hit the pentagon.... that there really was no plane after all!

    I still have your PM, "Dont take it personal". Heh, like I said to you before I hope we never run into each other at a show. I'm just asking questions here.
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I still have your PM, "Dont take it personal". Heh, like I said to you before I hope we never run into each other at a show. I'm just asking questions here.
    well 9/11 is a little personal to me. and now you want to tell me no plane hit the pentagon? the US government planted bombs in the buildings? is that what you're telling me? I took speedy's word that you were a cool guy. he was way off.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    LOL

    whats so funny? did the government plant that there?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    well 9/11 is a little personal to me. and now you want to tell me no plane hit the pentagon? the US government planted bombs in the buildings? is that what you're telling me? I took speedy's word that you were a cool guy. he was way off.


    Who died that you know in 9/11?
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    jlew24asu wrote:
    whats so funny? did the government plant that there?

    Photoshopped. ;)
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    Flight 77 did exist. People are missing their loved ones. There were people on a flight. Where are they? Where is the plane?

    I wish I couldn't point to the wreckage. As I mentioned, lots of unanswered questions. But that doesn't mean we need to make up fairy tales.

    The difference between me and you is you trust what the government and media tell you. I don't know what happened to those people but I do know that if an airliner hit the side of the building it would look much different.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I don't think this is true. If there were undisputable evidence that the government blew up the WTC, thus precipitating the past seven years of shit ... streets would run with blood.

    I'm serious. There would be a revolution.

    Well you have a lot more faith in the American public than I do. The way I see it we where Lias to to get us to go to war with Ieaq and the public didn't care. Million of our tax dollars where misused or just went missing because of this war and no one seemed I care. A CIA agent was outer by someone within this administration and no one seems to care. It just seems that Americans will turn a blind eye to the many wrongs our government does as long as our everyday life isn't affected. I'm sure initially there would be a lot of protesting and a huge outcry but sooner or later there will be a new shiney object to distract us and the people responsible would get away.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    The difference between me and you is you trust what the government and media tell you. I don't know what happened to those people but I do know that if an airliner hit the side of the building it would look much different.

    how the fuck do you know that? guess what, you dont.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Who died that you know in 9/11?

    Kasey Chueng
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jlew24asu wrote:
    whats so funny? did the government plant that there?

    Look up and compare other airline crashes and compare them to what is out there of the pentagon.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Look up and compare other airline crashes and compare them to what is out there of the pentagon.

    so what is that picture of?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    I still have your PM, "Dont take it personal". Heh, like I said to you before I hope we never run into each other at a show. I'm just asking questions here.

    Seriously, don't let things get to you at this level. I know you weren't talking to me, but when I'm posting I'm engaged in dialog, but also pushing buttons to have fun. If you really feel like you need to do someone on the board bodily harm, it might be time to take a break even if it is only for 5 minutes to smoke a bowl or have a shot. I know if I ever ran into you at a show I'd offer to buy you a beer. I am an asshole at times, but also like a good beer and good coversation.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jlew24asu wrote:
    how the fuck do you know that? guess what, you dont.

    Just look up pictures of plane crashes. The official line from the government is the plane vaporized including the wings and engines, as well as everything inside.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    The difference between me and you is you trust what the government and media tell you. I don't know what happened to those people but I do know that if an airliner hit the side of the building it would look much different.

    Actually, I'm one of those pesky Libertarian minarchists. I belive that government has next to no role at the federal level. So I'm definitely no government lap dog.

    Just as you don't know what happened to flight 77 and all aboard, I don't know why there isn't more debris or evidence. That's what I meant in my original post in this thread that there are a lot of unanswered questions. But as I said, I prefer not to fill those voids with science fiction.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    jeffbr wrote:
    Seriously, don't let things get to you at this level. I know you weren't talking to me, but when I'm posting I'm engaged in dialog, but also pushing buttons to have fun. If you really feel like you need to do someone on the board bodily harm, it might be time to take a break even if it is only for 5 minutes to smoke a bowl or have a shot. I know if I ever ran into you at a show I'd offer to buy you a beer. I am an asshole at times, but also like a good beer and good coversation.

    some people just have issues, and just dont get it. I honestly feel sad for some of the people that post here.
  • mammasan wrote:
    Kasey Chueng

    Who's that dude?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Just look up pictures of plane crashes. The official line from the government is the plane vaporized including the wings and engines, as well as everything inside.

    all planes crashes look the same? thats news to me. show me where the government says things vaporized?

    and WHAT IS IN THAT PICTURE I POSTED?
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Who's that dude?

    A friend of mine that died on 9/11. She worked on the 110 fl for Marsh Mclennon.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    Seriously, don't let things get to you at this level. I know you weren't talking to me, but when I'm posting I'm engaged in dialog, but also pushing buttons to have fun. If you really feel like you need to do someone on the board bodily harm, it might be time to take a break even if it is only for 5 minutes to smoke a bowl or have a shot. I know if I ever ran into you at a show I'd offer to buy you a beer. I am an asshole at times, but also like a good beer and good coversation.

    Who said anything about bodily harm? Why don't you mind your own business. Everyone wants to get personal around here and then act like "oh Im going to buy you a beer after I just attacked you over the Internet". Save your money.
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jlew24asu wrote:
    all planes crashes look the same? thats news to me. show me where the government says things vaporized?

    and WHAT IS IN THAT PICTURE I POSTED?

    No they don't all look the same. But they do all look like an airliner crashed. I think the 9/11 report states the plane vaporized.
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  • jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Who said anything about bodily harm? Why don't you mind your own business. Everyone wants to get personal around here and then act like "oh Im going to buy you a beer after I just attacked you over the Internet". Save your money.

    Jesus Christ. Calm down. I haven't attacked you over the Internet.

    The strange thing is that a few days ago you came on the forum, posted something, people responed, and you said you know why you don't come here often, because of the attacks. And yet you're one of the first people to attack someone who disagrees with you.

    And as far as minding my own business, if you post something on a public forum, then expect responses. If you want your business private, keep it that way.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • mammasan wrote:
    A friend of mine that died on 9/11. She worked on the 110 fl for Marsh Mclennon.

    Bummer...

    My mother died a couple weeks after 9/11. I remember watching it with her in her hospital room on the TV. It was basically he last thing on TV she saw after seeing that.. f-ed up...
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    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    Jesus Christ. Calm down. I haven't attacked you over the Internet.

    The strange thing is that a few days ago you came on the forum, posted something, people responed, and you said you know why you don't come here often, because of the attacks. And yet you're one of the first people to attack someone who disagrees with you.

    And as far as minding my own business, if you post something on a public forum, then expect responses. If you want your business private, keep it that way.

    Oh brother, you are giving yourself too much credit. I've already forgoten about you.
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    it amuses me so much to watch you boys measure yourselves against each other. :p:D
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    it amuses me so much to watch you boys measure yourself against each other. :p:D

    The one who scream the most usually has the smallest.
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  • it amuses me so much to watch you boys measure yourself against each other. :p:D


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    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    This thread has officially taken an ugly turn.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    gayer than bowl of dicks if you ask me... :D

    Some women find clashing penis's rather stimulating.

    not this woman. :)
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
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