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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    There were no cameras at the pentagon...or across the street at a few locations.

    those things arefreakin expensive...like a couple hundred dollars at least!

    It's a secure area don't forget...so all the cameras blinked at the same time because they felt tired. Cameras can get tired like people can too..

    So they all missed it, or maybe it was space dust on the lens from an earlier UFO landing that sasquatch was test flying for area 51.

    yeah ...that's it...sasquatch...ask sasquatch...

    Let Bush handle it...he talks monkey...
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    slightofjeff wrote:
    Of course, but OBL didn't know that.

    It's kind of like the kid in the playground. He hits you once. You don't respond. He pinches you, you don't respond. He scratches your arm. You don't respond.

    Then, feeling emboldened, he punches you in the nose. He's gone too far.


    no way. he knew. bin laden knew there was no way the US govt could not/ would not respond. one could even put up the argument that he kept trying just to see what it would take for them to react. i guess he found that out didnt he?
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    This is why people like me, who know people who saw the plane, will think of people like you as nutters. Yes, there are questions. Yes, it is stupid that the Pentagon hasn't released all of the video they have. Yes, it is this sort of thing that adds fuel to the looney fires. But people saw the plane and they weren't all government plants. They were friends and relatives. They were people who lived and worked in the area.

    Heh... Where did the plane go? Where was all the lugage? Bodies? Not one seat either...
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Heh... Where did the plane go? Where was all the lugage? Bodies? Not one seat either...

    Where did flight 77 go?
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    did they retrieve the black boxes?
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    Where did flight 77 go?

    Exactly where is the damn plane and everything else that is involved in a plane crash. Such a crazy question. :rolleyes:
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Building 7, Start there...
    MasterFramer wrote:
    That was no plane that hit the pentagon.

    just when you gain on ounce of credibility you flush it all down the drain. how the fuck can you believe no plane hit the building. sigh it's make me sick and I cant help but laugh at such stupidity.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    catefrances wrote:
    did they retrieve the black boxes?


    yeap.. found....analyzed...concealed by the FBI.

    Nobody can know anything apparently.

    ...and asking questions is bad....very bad....crazy people bad...UFO's....sasquatch...Elvis...

    but I'm sure it's all legit.

    I mean look at Iraq...the very model of this admins legitimacy.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    catefrances wrote:
    did they retrieve the black boxes?

    Not that I'm aware of. If they have, for some reason they're not releasing the results, just as they aren't releasing video. But lack of evidence somehow seems to create a vacuum that people need to fill with fantastic tales. The funny thing is that those fantastic tales come with the same amount of evidence (none) as the more reasonable explanation.
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jlew24asu wrote:
    just when you gain on ounce of credibility you flush it all down the drain. how the fuck can you believe no plane hit the building. sigh it's make me sick and I cant help but laugh at such stupidity.

    Oh I'm heartbroken, while you are laughing please explain the two items you have quoted.
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  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    Not that I'm aware of. If they have, for some reason they're not releasing the results, just as they aren't releasing video. But lack of evidence somehow seems to create a vacuum that people need to fill with fantastic tales. The funny thing is that those fantastic tales come with the same amount of evidence (none) as the more reasonable explanation.

    Fuck the videos, where is the plane wreckage. Simple question that no one can answer.
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    jeffbr wrote:
    Not that I'm aware of. If they have, for some reason they're not releasing the results, just as they aren't releasing video. But lack of evidence somehow seems to create a vacuum that people need to fill with fantastic tales. The funny thing is that those fantastic tales come with the same amount of evidence (none) as the more reasonable explanation.

    and by not being completely open and clear with the public allows for these crackpot theories to flourish. they should be laying everything out on the table so people can talk about it and see what happened. this is not the time to be concealing ANYTHING.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    catefrances wrote:
    and by not being completely open and clear with the public allows for these crackpot theories to flourish. they should be laying everything out on the table so people can talk about it and see what happened. this is not the time to be concealing ANYTHING.

    I completely agree with you (and said as much in my first post in this thread). Time to lay it all out on the table. Maybe the next administration will be more forthcoming.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Fuck the videos, where is the plane wreckage. Simple question that no one can answer.
    If Flight 77 didn't crash into the pentagon, where is it? Simple question that no one can answer.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    I completely agree with you (and said as much in my first post in this thread). Time to lay it all out on the table. Maybe the next administration will be more forthcoming.

    Yeah maybe they will just "lay it on the table" good luck with that theory :rolleyes:
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MasterFramer wrote:
    Oh I'm heartbroken, while you are laughing please explain the two items you have quoted.

    your right I cant. bombs where planted in building 7 and a missile hit the pentagon. and the secret government program called "Lazor beam Express" took down WTC 1 & 2.



    if you ever find time to get your head out of your ass, try and study the structural engineering of the construction of building 7. my guess is you no nothing about it.

    and try to explain to the countless eye witnesses who actually saw a plane hit the pentagon.... that there really was no plane after all!
  • MasterFramer
    MasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    jeffbr wrote:
    If Flight 77 didn't crash into the pentagon, where is it? Simple question that no one can answer.

    How can it be somewhere if it never existed? So you are positive that a plane hit the building. OK where was the plane wreckage? Bodies? Seats? Just tell me.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    catefrances wrote:
    ...in the 9/11 attacks and there was irrefutable evidence, what would the US public do you think?

    Honestly the majority probably wouldn't do a damn thing. As long as everything was going fine in the small insulated hub or of their life they wouldn't give a shit about anything else.
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  • slightofjeff
    slightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    mammasan wrote:
    Honestly the majority probably wouldn't do a damn thing. As long as everything was going fine in the small insulated hub or of their life they wouldn't give a shit about anything else.

    I don't think this is true. If there were undisputable evidence that the government blew up the WTC, thus precipitating the past seven years of shit ... streets would run with blood.

    I'm serious. There would be a revolution.
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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    MasterFramer wrote:
    How can it be somewhere if it never existed? So you are positive that a plane hit the building. OK where was the plane wreckage? Bodies? Seats? Just tell me.
    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg/800px-Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg

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