if it was discovered that the US govt was complicit...

jeffbr

MasterFramer wrote:

How can it be somewhere if it never existed? So you are positive that a plane hit the building. OK where was the plane wreckage? Bodies? Seats? Just tell me.

Flight 77 did exist. People are missing their loved ones. There were people on a flight. Where are they? Where is the plane?

I wish I could point to the wreckage. As I mentioned, lots of unanswered questions. But that doesn't mean we need to make up fairy tales.

MasterFramer

jlew24asu wrote:

your right I cant. bombs where planted in building 7 and a missile hit the pentagon. and the secret government program called "Lazor beam Express" took down WTC 1 & 2.



if you ever find time to get your head out of your ass, try and study the structural engineering of the construction of building 7. my guess is you no nothing about it.

and try to explain to the countless eye witnesses who actually saw a plane hit the pentagon.... that there really was no plane after all!

I still have your PM, "Dont take it personal". Heh, like I said to you before I hope we never run into each other at a show. I'm just asking questions here.

MasterFramer

jlew24asu wrote:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg/800px-Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg

LOL

jlew24asu

MasterFramer wrote:

I still have your PM, "Dont take it personal". Heh, like I said to you before I hope we never run into each other at a show. I'm just asking questions here.

well 9/11 is a little personal to me. and now you want to tell me no plane hit the pentagon? the US government planted bombs in the buildings? is that what you're telling me? I took speedy's word that you were a cool guy. he was way off.

jlew24asu

MasterFramer wrote:

LOL

whats so funny? did the government plant that there?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

jlew24asu wrote:

well 9/11 is a little personal to me. and now you want to tell me no plane hit the pentagon? the US government planted bombs in the buildings? is that what you're telling me? I took speedy's word that you were a cool guy. he was way off.

Who died that you know in 9/11?

slightofjeff

jlew24asu wrote:

whats so funny? did the government plant that there?

Photoshopped.

MasterFramer

jeffbr wrote:

Flight 77 did exist. People are missing their loved ones. There were people on a flight. Where are they? Where is the plane?

I wish I couldn't point to the wreckage. As I mentioned, lots of unanswered questions. But that doesn't mean we need to make up fairy tales.

The difference between me and you is you trust what the government and media tell you. I don't know what happened to those people but I do know that if an airliner hit the side of the building it would look much different.

mammasan

slightofjeff wrote:

I don't think this is true. If there were undisputable evidence that the government blew up the WTC, thus precipitating the past seven years of shit ... streets would run with blood.

I'm serious. There would be a revolution.

Well you have a lot more faith in the American public than I do. The way I see it we where Lias to to get us to go to war with Ieaq and the public didn't care. Million of our tax dollars where misused or just went missing because of this war and no one seemed I care. A CIA agent was outer by someone within this administration and no one seems to care. It just seems that Americans will turn a blind eye to the many wrongs our government does as long as our everyday life isn't affected. I'm sure initially there would be a lot of protesting and a huge outcry but sooner or later there will be a new shiney object to distract us and the people responsible would get away.

jlew24asu

MasterFramer wrote:

The difference between me and you is you trust what the government and media tell you. I don't know what happened to those people but I do know that if an airliner hit the side of the building it would look much different.

how the fuck do you know that? guess what, you dont.

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Who died that you know in 9/11?

Kasey Chueng

MasterFramer

jlew24asu wrote:

whats so funny? did the government plant that there?

Look up and compare other airline crashes and compare them to what is out there of the pentagon.

jlew24asu

MasterFramer wrote:

Look up and compare other airline crashes and compare them to what is out there of the pentagon.

so what is that picture of?

jeffbr

MasterFramer wrote:

I still have your PM, "Dont take it personal". Heh, like I said to you before I hope we never run into each other at a show. I'm just asking questions here.

Seriously, don't let things get to you at this level. I know you weren't talking to me, but when I'm posting I'm engaged in dialog, but also pushing buttons to have fun. If you really feel like you need to do someone on the board bodily harm, it might be time to take a break even if it is only for 5 minutes to smoke a bowl or have a shot. I know if I ever ran into you at a show I'd offer to buy you a beer. I am an asshole at times, but also like a good beer and good coversation.

MasterFramer

jlew24asu wrote:

how the fuck do you know that? guess what, you dont.

Just look up pictures of plane crashes. The official line from the government is the plane vaporized including the wings and engines, as well as everything inside.

jeffbr

MasterFramer wrote:

The difference between me and you is you trust what the government and media tell you. I don't know what happened to those people but I do know that if an airliner hit the side of the building it would look much different.

Actually, I'm one of those pesky Libertarian minarchists. I belive that government has next to no role at the federal level. So I'm definitely no government lap dog.

Just as you don't know what happened to flight 77 and all aboard, I don't know why there isn't more debris or evidence. That's what I meant in my original post in this thread that there are a lot of unanswered questions. But as I said, I prefer not to fill those voids with science fiction.

jlew24asu

jeffbr wrote:

Seriously, don't let things get to you at this level. I know you weren't talking to me, but when I'm posting I'm engaged in dialog, but also pushing buttons to have fun. If you really feel like you need to do someone on the board bodily harm, it might be time to take a break even if it is only for 5 minutes to smoke a bowl or have a shot. I know if I ever ran into you at a show I'd offer to buy you a beer. I am an asshole at times, but also like a good beer and good coversation.

some people just have issues, and just dont get it. I honestly feel sad for some of the people that post here.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

mammasan wrote:

Kasey Chueng

Who's that dude?

jlew24asu

MasterFramer wrote:

Just look up pictures of plane crashes. The official line from the government is the plane vaporized including the wings and engines, as well as everything inside.

all planes crashes look the same? thats news to me. show me where the government says things vaporized?

and WHAT IS IN THAT PICTURE I POSTED?

mammasan

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Who's that dude?

A friend of mine that died on 9/11. She worked on the 110 fl for Marsh Mclennon.