if it was discovered that the US govt was complicit...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

I don 't know, Mulder. Why don't you ask Scully?

Put options good Idea.

Don't you wonder?

or do you?

catefrances

jlew24asu wrote:

and all the evidence overwhelmingly leads to el queda. conspiracy wackos only ask a bunch of questions that have no answers.

well i sincerely hope all the evidence pointing al qaeda is more overwhelming than the warrens commission's relating to who shot JFK.

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Put options good Idea.

Don't you wonder?

or do you?

No more than I wonder if the Japanese really bombed Pearl Harbor. But you're not buying that one, either, are ya?

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

well i sincerely hope all the evidence pointing al qaeda is more overwhelming than the warrens commission's relating to who shot JFK.

It is.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

No more than I wonder if the Japanese really bombed Pearl Harbor. But you're not buying that one, either, are ya?

Why not? it's completely tracable and easy to do?

so wtf? I fail to see your mentality on this.

What if it led to an unknown source of terrorist income or "cell"?

so why not again exactly?

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Why not? it's completely tracable and easy to do?

so wtf? I fail to see your mentality on this.

What if it led to an unknown source of terrorist income or "cell"?

so why not again exactly?

I guess I don't even know what you're asking from me.

catefrances

slightofjeff wrote:

Trust me, life is much harder for OBL today that it was on 9/10/01. Business is harder for him, too. Why do you think there hasn't been another such attack on America since? Because OBL's such a good guy?

He lost safe haven in Afghanistan, and was forced into hiding. If he had nothing to do with 9.11, he would have said so. It doesn't serve him to be falsely accused.

there has not been another attack on US soil because the objective was achieved.

the man has his freedom. if the US govt were serious about bringing him to justice they would have found him by now. they wouldnt have deputised the chase to people so easily influenced. a lot of those incarcerated in guantanamo bay are/were there cause the US threw around money instead of doing the job in the right way. maybe bin laden is in afghanistan still...maybe he's in pakistan... maybe he's in that border area where no one is willing to go. maybe the US govt dont give a big enough toss to find oout and do something about it. maybe the US govt should stop thinking money can buy loyalty.
dont think for a minute that i think bin laden isnt responsible for what happened. but i still have to question how the most technologically advanced country on earth cant find him.

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

there has not been another attack on US soil because the objective was achieved.

You haven't studied much OBL, have you? His objectives are not even close to achieved. We've meddled more in the Arab world SINCE 9-11 than BEFORE.

norm

catefrances wrote:

but i still have to question how the most technologically advanced country on earth cant find him.

well first my dear we actually have to try to look.....;)

catefrances

slightofjeff wrote:

You haven't studied much OBL, have you? His objectives are not even close to achieved. We've meddled more in the Arab world SINCE 9-11 than BEFORE.

so you dont think bin laden was aware that would be the result of his handiwork? there is no way he thought that by attacking the US, they'd retreat from the middle east. passive agressiveness works well sometimes doesnt it? the US govt by their actions, have managed to bring more hate against their country. when GW stated the US was a peaceful nation way back in 2001 i just about threw up. talk about believing the lies. not to mention bowing down to the flag.

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

so you dont think bin laden was aware that would be the result of his handiwork?

Actually, he wasn't.

Bomb the WTC the first time. Nothing happens.
Bomb the USS Cole. Nothing happens.
Blow up the barracks in Beirut. Nothing happens.

He didn't expect us to overrun Afghanistan. Certainly, he didn't expect us to his actions as an excuse to overrun Iraq, too. he expected us to do nothing, because that's pretty much what we always do.

Whatever his intentions, I can pretty much guarantee it wasn't to lose the Taliban as an ally, and exponentially increase America's influence in the region.

theroachman

slightofjeff wrote:

It is.

If the evidence is better why didn't Bush and Cheney testify under oath? Why was the cost of the 9/11 commission less then what Ken Star spent pursuing a blow job?

If you can not see why so many conspiracies have been given legs then please stick to watching American Idol.

catefrances

slightofjeff wrote:

Actually, he wasn't.

Bomb the WTC the first time. Nothing happens.
Bomb the USS Cole. Nothing happens.
Blow up the barracks in Beirut. Nothing happens.

He didn't expect us to overrun Afghanistan. Certainly, he didn't expect us to his actions as an excuse to overrun Iraq, too. he expected us to do nothing, because that's pretty much what we always do.

Whatever his intentions, I can pretty much guarantee it wasn't to lose the Taliban as an ally, and exponentially increase America's influence in the region.

i disagree.

the destruction of the WTC, the attack on the pentagon and the crash of flight 93 was not something the US government could ignore. and what a perfect opportuntiy to implement all the draconian measures theyd always wanted to bring in. fear is the perfect tool by which to control.

MasterFramer

catefrances wrote:

i disagree.

the destruction of the WTC, the attack on the pentagon and the crash of flight 93 was not something the US government could ignore. and what a perfect opportuntiy to implement all the draconian measures theyd always wanted to bring in. fear is the perfect tool by which to control.

That was no plane that hit the pentagon.

catefrances

MasterFramer wrote:

That was no plane that hit the pentagon.

damage too vertical for you?

MasterFramer

jlew24asu wrote:

just ask roland. he will present evidence to you that planes didnt even fly into the buildings. it was a media illusion. (I'm dead serious) this is the fucking insane wackjob shit this board sometimes produces. its almost beyond words.

Building 7, Start there...

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

i disagree.

the destruction of the WTC, the attack on the pentagon and the crash of flight 93 was not something the US government could ignore.

Of course, but OBL didn't know that.

It's kind of like the kid in the playground. He hits you once. You don't respond. He pinches you, you don't respond. He scratches your arm. You don't respond.

Then, feeling emboldened, he punches you in the nose. He's gone too far.

slightofjeff

MasterFramer wrote:

That was no plane that hit the pentagon.

Tell that to the people who were on it. This thread is getting a little too "X-Files" for me. It's just a TV show, people.

jeffbr

MasterFramer wrote:

That was no plane that hit the pentagon.

This is why people like me, who know people who saw the plane, will think of people like you as nutters. Yes, there are questions. Yes, it is stupid that the Pentagon hasn't released all of the video they have. Yes, it is this sort of thing that adds fuel to the looney fires. But people saw the plane and they weren't all government plants. They were friends and relatives. They were people who lived and worked in the area.

jeffbr

slightofjeff wrote:

Tell that to the people who were on it. This thread is getting a little too "X-Files" for me. It's just a TV show, people.

On this board it appears to be a religion.