if it was discovered that the US govt was complicit...

catefrances

...in the 9/11 attacks and there was irrefutable evidence, what would the US public do you think?

DPrival78

catefrances wrote:

...in the 9/11 attacks and there was irrefutable evidence, what would the US public do you think?

as long as they don't take my xbox away, or cancel american idol, then i don't care.

jlew24asu

catefrances wrote:

...in the 9/11 attacks and there was irrefutable evidence, what would the US public do you think?

heads would roll. literally.

catefrances

would you march on washington?

MasterFramer

catefrances wrote:

...in the 9/11 attacks and there was irrefutable evidence, what would the US public do you think?

There already is a mountain of questions marks. But at this point if you bring it up you are called a loon.

jlew24asu

catefrances wrote:

would you march on washington?

yes.

norm

catefrances wrote:

...in the 9/11 attacks and there was irrefutable evidence, what would the US public do you think?

nothing

catefrances

cutback wrote:

nothing

and how about you tim? what would you do?

norm

catefrances wrote:

and how about you tim? what would you do?

me? i don't know....just thinking about it makes me sad.....i mean, to kill all those people and in the manner in which it was done, all to further a political and monetary end, just is beyond my thinking......nothing short of a trial at the hague for bush and company would suffice i guess....

jeffbr

MasterFramer wrote:

There already is a mountain of questions marks. But at this point if you bring it up you are called a loon.

Question marks are fine. I would think we all have them. The loon part happens when those questions are attempted to be answered by UFO sightings, holograms & secret demolition teams.

MasterFramer

jeffbr wrote:

Question marks are fine. I would think we all have them. The loon part happens when those questions are attempted to be answered by UFO sightings, holograms & secret demolition teams.

Again someone with the knee jerk reaction. I have no idea what UFOs and holograms have to do with 9/11 though.

jeffbr

MasterFramer wrote:

Again someone with the knee jerk reaction. I have no idea what UFOs and holograms have to do with 9/11 though.

I'm sure they have nothing to do with 9/11, but that doesn't stop the loons from posting their crazy theories or linking us to poorly produced websites or videos about it.

catefrances

cutback wrote:

me? i don't know....just thinking about it makes me sad.....i mean, to kill all those people and in the manner in which it was done, all to further a political and monetary end, just is beyond my thinking......nothing short of a trial at the hague for bush and company would suffice i guess....

just the thought that this is a possibility makes me sad also. to think a govt would do that to their own people boggles my mind.
though i do realise that govts around the world have done some heinous things to the people throughout history.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Uttter Chaos ....maybe a few executions (probably not), lots of jail time, redistribution of wealth, a few rogue fires at the Whitehouse perhaps, then a whole lot of carefully restructured govt.

And an exceptionally sour and overly cautious global community waning gradually across the next 200 years...

slightofjeff

Do serious, rational people actually believe this? I mean, I'm pretty much a cynical fuck, but a bunch of people saw planes fly into the WTC. OBL took credit for it, much to his own detriment.

I think we pretty much have the basic outline of what happened right.

Remember folks, the easiest explanation is almost always the right one.

jlew24asu

slightofjeff wrote:

Do serious, rational people actually believe this? I mean, I'm pretty much a cynical fuck, but a bunch of people saw planes fly into the WTC. OBL took credit for it, much to his own detriment.

I think we pretty much have the basic outline of what happened right.

Remember folks, the easiest explanation is almost always the right one.

just ask roland. he will present evidence to you that planes didnt even fly into the buildings. it was a media illusion. (I'm dead serious) this is the fucking insane wackjob shit this board sometimes produces. its almost beyond words.

catefrances

slightofjeff wrote:

Do serious, rational people actually believe this? I mean, I'm pretty much a cynical fuck, but a bunch of people saw planes fly into the WTC. OBL took credit for it, much to his own detriment.

I think we pretty much have the basic outline of what happened right.

Remember folks, the easiest explanation is almost always the right one.

to his own detriment? and where is osama right now? dead? jailed? free?


rational people dont discount something purely cause it sounds implausible. they leave their minds open to ALL possibilities no matter how irksome.
sure a bunch of people saw the planes fly into the building. no one's disputing that(are they?). but what led up to that? who was responsible? these are the questions.

jlew24asu

catefrances wrote:

to his own detriment? and where is osama right now? dead? jailed? free?


rational people dont discount something purely cause it sounds implausible. they leave their minds open to ALL possibilities no matter how irksome.
sure a bunch of people saw the planes fly into the building. no one's disputing that(are they?). but what led up to that? who was responsible? these are the questions.

and all the evidence overwhelmingly leads to el queda. conspiracy wackos only ask a bunch of questions that have no answers.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

there's list that contain close to a hundred or more very bizarre facts about the handling and events surrounding 9/11 that have nothing to do with the actual day itself. Many many weird factual events and circumstances.

I could link up the list if I looked, but people should be educating themselves already it's been years now.

The Bush Administration granted the 9/11 Commission $3 million to investigate the September 11 attacks and $50 million to the commission that investigated the Columbia space shuttle crash. That's kinda weird eh? they hauled off all the evidence right away and destroyed it...

Then...who did place the put options? They knew it was going to happen in advance.

That's a smoking gun that is being repressed.

A lot of very legitimate questions swept under the rug...

Why?

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

to his own detriment? and where is osama right now? dead? jailed? free?

Trust me, life is much harder for OBL today that it was on 9/10/01. Business is harder for him, too. Why do you think there hasn't been another such attack on America since? Because OBL's such a good guy?

He lost safe haven in Afghanistan, and was forced into hiding. If he had nothing to do with 9.11, he would have said so. It doesn't serve him to be falsely accused.

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

there's list that contain close to a hundred or more very bizarre facts about the handling and events surrounding 9/11 that have nothing to do with the actual day itself. Many many weird factual events and circumstances.

I could link up the list if I looked, but people should be educating themselves already it's been years now.

The Bush Administration granted the 9/11 Commission $3 million to investigate the September 11 attacks and $50 million to the commission that investigated the Columbia space shuttle crash. That's kinda weird eh? they hauled off all the evidence right away and destroyed it...

Then...who did place the put options? They knew it was going to happen in advance.

That's a smoking gun that is being repressed.

A lot of very legitimate questions swept under the rug...

Why?

I don 't know, Mulder. Why don't you ask Scully?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

I don 't know, Mulder. Why don't you ask Scully?

Put options good Idea.

Don't you wonder?

or do you?

catefrances

jlew24asu wrote:

and all the evidence overwhelmingly leads to el queda. conspiracy wackos only ask a bunch of questions that have no answers.

well i sincerely hope all the evidence pointing al qaeda is more overwhelming than the warrens commission's relating to who shot JFK.

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Put options good Idea.

Don't you wonder?

or do you?

No more than I wonder if the Japanese really bombed Pearl Harbor. But you're not buying that one, either, are ya?

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

well i sincerely hope all the evidence pointing al qaeda is more overwhelming than the warrens commission's relating to who shot JFK.

It is.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

No more than I wonder if the Japanese really bombed Pearl Harbor. But you're not buying that one, either, are ya?

Why not? it's completely tracable and easy to do?

so wtf? I fail to see your mentality on this.

What if it led to an unknown source of terrorist income or "cell"?

so why not again exactly?

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Why not? it's completely tracable and easy to do?

so wtf? I fail to see your mentality on this.

What if it led to an unknown source of terrorist income or "cell"?

so why not again exactly?

I guess I don't even know what you're asking from me.

catefrances

slightofjeff wrote:

Trust me, life is much harder for OBL today that it was on 9/10/01. Business is harder for him, too. Why do you think there hasn't been another such attack on America since? Because OBL's such a good guy?

He lost safe haven in Afghanistan, and was forced into hiding. If he had nothing to do with 9.11, he would have said so. It doesn't serve him to be falsely accused.

there has not been another attack on US soil because the objective was achieved.

the man has his freedom. if the US govt were serious about bringing him to justice they would have found him by now. they wouldnt have deputised the chase to people so easily influenced. a lot of those incarcerated in guantanamo bay are/were there cause the US threw around money instead of doing the job in the right way. maybe bin laden is in afghanistan still...maybe he's in pakistan... maybe he's in that border area where no one is willing to go. maybe the US govt dont give a big enough toss to find oout and do something about it. maybe the US govt should stop thinking money can buy loyalty.
dont think for a minute that i think bin laden isnt responsible for what happened. but i still have to question how the most technologically advanced country on earth cant find him.

slightofjeff

catefrances wrote:

there has not been another attack on US soil because the objective was achieved.

You haven't studied much OBL, have you? His objectives are not even close to achieved. We've meddled more in the Arab world SINCE 9-11 than BEFORE.

norm

catefrances wrote:

but i still have to question how the most technologically advanced country on earth cant find him.

well first my dear we actually have to try to look.....;)

catefrances

slightofjeff wrote:

You haven't studied much OBL, have you? His objectives are not even close to achieved. We've meddled more in the Arab world SINCE 9-11 than BEFORE.

so you dont think bin laden was aware that would be the result of his handiwork? there is no way he thought that by attacking the US, they'd retreat from the middle east. passive agressiveness works well sometimes doesnt it? the US govt by their actions, have managed to bring more hate against their country. when GW stated the US was a peaceful nation way back in 2001 i just about threw up. talk about believing the lies. not to mention bowing down to the flag.