I do agree that there are many different possibilities and I am only bringing these up, not really against what you are saying, but against a pervasive mentality that somehow attempts to lift the blame from the offender and place it on outside influences. I, once again, am not accusing you of this. It just seems to happen more often than not.
I did say - the blame is laid on the offender, definitely. But I still think as a society we have some kind of input, whether from a 'social' point of view, education or 'the gun issue'.... But I understand what you're saying... individuals tend not to take responsibility of their actions... "I stole the car because the guy left his key in the ignition and I was tempted. If that man hadn't been so stupid, I wouldn't be in this situation.. it's his fault, not mine."
its possible and it exists but its not some huge problem that asian people deal with in general. got it now? fuck
No need for a foul mouth... how would you know what an asian deals with? Are you asian? From my experience, most americans wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between an asian or a person from the middle east....
No need for a foul mouth... how would you know what an asian deals with? Are you asian? From my experience, most americans wouldn't even be able to tell the difference between an asian or a person from the middle east....
no i'm not asian but I work with many of them, my girlfriend is also asian. and never have I heard them complain about any discrimination. or that their "people" are subjected to it constantly.
you think most americans cant tell the difference between an asian and an arab? has to be the dumbest thing I heard in awhile. well done.
you think most americans cant tell the difference between an asian and an arab? has to be the dumbest thing I heard in awhile. well done.
Yep.... according to my experience and the experience of a number of friend that are of asian and arab origin and that are or have been in the US...
Asians are not subjected to more or less hassle than anyone else.... it's just silly saying they would be less chances of racial abuse because you are asian and not another race.... but I'm thinking we are talking cross purposes here.. I'm talking Asian... you might be thinking far eastern... So with this, I think this exchange should end.
Yep.... according to my experience and the experience of a number of friend that are of asian and arab origin and that are or have been in the US...
Asians are not subjected to more or less hassle than anyone else.... it's just silly saying they would be less chances of racial abuse because you are asian and not another race.... but I'm thinking we are talking cross purposes here.. I'm talking Asian... you might be thinking far eastern...
I get your drift, but the debate was not over one individual but as a general debate on the various pressures people are subjected to and how they react to them... racism being one of them.. aimed at ALL groups as was posted earlier.
Yep.... according to my experience and the experience of a number of friend that are of asian and arab origin and that are or have been in the US...
Asians are not subjected to more or less hassle than anyone else.... it's just silly saying they would be less chances of racial abuse because you are asian and not another race.... but I'm thinking we are talking cross purposes here.. I'm talking Asian... you might be thinking far eastern... So with this, I think this exchange should end.
Well, you're goofing here. For one thing, historically, "Arab" has never been given the racial designation that "Asian" has known since racial designation has been going on. One mistake I hear many people make is calling Iranians, Arab.
Should have taken it up... positive discrimination is crap (if that's what it was)... If there were rules for the scholarship (grades, finances, etc.) they should have been applied to all. You had the right to know why she didn't get the scholarship, where she failed and what the appeal process was...
the scholorship clearly stated for minorities only. the reason was quite clear. a civil rights lawsuit challenging affirmative action as reverse discrimination was not worth the cost or time. affirmative action is breeding hate on the streets and the rapidly increasing violence against minorities and the jump in membership of groups such as the arien nation and the KKK are evidence that the fight will take place on the streets and not in the courts.
Well, you're goofing here. For one thing, historically, "Arab" has never been given the racial designation that "Asian" has known since racial designation has been going on. One mistake I hear many people make is calling Iranians, Arab.
ALso from wiki: Defining Arab in Modern Times
In the modern nationalist era, according to Habib Hassan Touma,[6] "An 'Arab', in the modern sense of the word, is one who is a national of an Arab state, has command of the Arabic language, and possesses a fundamental knowledge of Arabian tradition, that is, of the manners, customs, and political and social systems of the culture."
On its formation in 1946, the Arab League defined an "Arab" as follows:[citation needed]
“ An Arab is a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples" ”
- Arab League.
[edit] Origin
Again from wiki: "Iranian Arabs (Persian: عربان ايران) are the Arabic-speaking citizens of Iran. Most Iranian Arabs live in the coastal regions of southern Iran by the Persian Gulf. Pockets of Iranian Arab communities are also found in Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, and the United Arab Emirates."
the scholorship clearly stated for minorities only. the reason was quite clear. a civil rights lawsuit challenging affirmative action as reverse discrimination was not worth the cost or time. affirmative action is breeding hate on the streets and the rapidly increasing violence against minorities and the jump in membership of groups such as the arien nation and the KKK are evidence that the fight will take place on the streets and not in the courts.
I am completely against any action that would advantage or disadvantage a race. I remember a long time ago, in California, I applied for a job. The guy wanted to hire me but didn't have his quota of minorities. I had put white on my application form. I am 1/32 native american and could have qualified for minority. Out of principle, i refused to change my application..
ALso from wiki: Defining Arab in Modern Times
In the modern nationalist era, according to Habib Hassan Touma,[6] "An 'Arab', in the modern sense of the word, is one who is a national of an Arab state, has command of the Arabic language, and possesses a fundamental knowledge of Arabian tradition, that is, of the manners, customs, and political and social systems of the culture."
On its formation in 1946, the Arab League defined an "Arab" as follows:[citation needed]
“ An Arab is a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples" ”
- Arab League.
[edit] Origin
Again from wiki: "Iranian Arabs (Persian: عربان ايران) are the Arabic-speaking citizens of Iran. Most Iranian Arabs live in the coastal regions of southern Iran by the Persian Gulf. Pockets of Iranian Arab communities are also found in Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, and the United Arab Emirates."
But, "Asian" is a race classification, not a cultural one, and that was the point I was making when you argued that Americans can't tell the difference between the two.
I've turned pretty liberal in the past few years, but I will always agree with our right to bear arms.. I've never used a gun. I don't own a gun. I don't plan on obtaining a gun, but I strongly agree with the right to own one.
I am completely against any action that would advantage or disadvantage a race. I remember a long time ago, in California, I applied for a job. The guy wanted to hire me but didn't have his quota of minorities. I had put white on my application form. I am 1/32 native american and could have qualified for minority. Out of principle, i refused to change my application..
i too was offered a job in 1985 as head of purchasing with a fortune 500 company. after being hired i was told i had to be released because government quota required the company hire 1 black and 1 woman to continue receiving government contracts. the company had only one opening and hired a black woman with no experience to comply with government quota.
the company went under and was bought out a few years later.
O.k, but the same kind of tier system and clique system exists at both schools and colleges, right? What I'm asking is, how bad is this stuff? What effect does it have on people? And is there anything in the way people are treated in the U.S education system which may be responsible for these type of incidents being so frequent?
The other thing is that the shooter at that mall awhile ago and this shooter weren't really American citizens either. Granted the VT killer had been here awhile, though.
The only people we should try to get even with...
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
The other thing is that the shooter at that mall awhile ago and this shooter weren't really American citizens either. Granted the VT killer had been here awhile, though.
so why were they allowed to buy guns then????
this is a valid question i have... the 2nd ammendment gives the right to bear arms to its CITIZENS.. so why did a "resident alien" who was only in america to study allowed a firearm
someone answer that!!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
this is a valid question i have... the 2nd ammendment gives the right to bear arms to its CITIZENS.. so why did a "resident alien" who was only in america to study allowed a firearm
this is a valid question i have... the 2nd ammendment gives the right to bear arms to its CITIZENS.. so why did a "resident alien" who was only in america to study allowed a firearm
someone answer that!!!
they are not allowed to buy guns. they broke the law. if laws had any meaning; there wouldn't be crime. laws only give the government the right to prosecute. they don't stop crime.
it's not the wild wild west anymore. why do people feel the need to own guns in this day and age?
how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed
why would the nra respond at all? this is not a second ammendment issue; it is a criminal issue. jack daniels doesn't respond to drunk driving incidents nor does chevrolet.
how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed
I haven't...
guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?
please, tell us about some of the "other things"...
how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed
well said. although it's still the wild west where i live.
they are not allowed to buy guns. they broke the law. if laws had any meaning; there wouldn't be crime. laws only give the government the right to prosecute. they don't stop crime.
he didnt break any law if, for instance, he went along to a Gun Show in Virginia as its perfectly legal to buy a gun at one of these shows without any background checks!!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?
please, tell us about some of the "other things"...
Target shooting, skeet shooting, sport of that nature...
There is a big difference between killing people, which the vast majority of privately owned guns in this country will never be used for, and killing game.
Target shooting, skeet shooting, sport of that nature...
There is a big difference between killing people, which the vast majority of privately owned guns in this country will never be used for, and killing game.
why can't you use a rock...they can break things, too...
I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of privately owned guns are for "protection"...i.e. "killing, just in case...."
guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?
please, tell us about some of the "other things"...
uh..ever heard of hunting?? or are you against killing animals?? ever heard of target shooting?? ever heard of skeet shooting?? ever heard of collecting guns? im for making the gun laws extremely strict, but banning them because you have a bunch of fuckin idiots on drugs that like to shoot people up?? hell no....you are the kind of people that only scream "CONSTITUTION" when its convienent for you....2nd amendment bitch
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I did say - the blame is laid on the offender, definitely. But I still think as a society we have some kind of input, whether from a 'social' point of view, education or 'the gun issue'.... But I understand what you're saying... individuals tend not to take responsibility of their actions... "I stole the car because the guy left his key in the ignition and I was tempted. If that man hadn't been so stupid, I wouldn't be in this situation.. it's his fault, not mine."
no i'm not asian but I work with many of them, my girlfriend is also asian. and never have I heard them complain about any discrimination. or that their "people" are subjected to it constantly.
you think most americans cant tell the difference between an asian and an arab? has to be the dumbest thing I heard in awhile. well done.
Asians are not subjected to more or less hassle than anyone else.... it's just silly saying they would be less chances of racial abuse because you are asian and not another race.... but I'm thinking we are talking cross purposes here.. I'm talking Asian... you might be thinking far eastern... So with this, I think this exchange should end.
Like South Korean?
Hehe.... both these guys are 'asians' http://www.international.ucla.edu/cms/images/DdkimNandrews.jpg
Well, you're goofing here. For one thing, historically, "Arab" has never been given the racial designation that "Asian" has known since racial designation has been going on. One mistake I hear many people make is calling Iranians, Arab.
here's wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28historical_definitions%29
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the scholorship clearly stated for minorities only. the reason was quite clear. a civil rights lawsuit challenging affirmative action as reverse discrimination was not worth the cost or time. affirmative action is breeding hate on the streets and the rapidly increasing violence against minorities and the jump in membership of groups such as the arien nation and the KKK are evidence that the fight will take place on the streets and not in the courts.
Good ol' wiki...
ALso from wiki: Defining Arab in Modern Times
In the modern nationalist era, according to Habib Hassan Touma,[6] "An 'Arab', in the modern sense of the word, is one who is a national of an Arab state, has command of the Arabic language, and possesses a fundamental knowledge of Arabian tradition, that is, of the manners, customs, and political and social systems of the culture."
On its formation in 1946, the Arab League defined an "Arab" as follows:[citation needed]
“ An Arab is a person whose language is Arabic, who lives in an Arabic speaking country, who is in sympathy with the aspirations of the Arabic speaking peoples" ”
- Arab League.
[edit] Origin
Again from wiki: "Iranian Arabs (Persian: عربان ايران) are the Arabic-speaking citizens of Iran. Most Iranian Arabs live in the coastal regions of southern Iran by the Persian Gulf. Pockets of Iranian Arab communities are also found in Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, and the United Arab Emirates."
I am completely against any action that would advantage or disadvantage a race. I remember a long time ago, in California, I applied for a job. The guy wanted to hire me but didn't have his quota of minorities. I had put white on my application form. I am 1/32 native american and could have qualified for minority. Out of principle, i refused to change my application..
But, "Asian" is a race classification, not a cultural one, and that was the point I was making when you argued that Americans can't tell the difference between the two.
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i too was offered a job in 1985 as head of purchasing with a fortune 500 company. after being hired i was told i had to be released because government quota required the company hire 1 black and 1 woman to continue receiving government contracts. the company had only one opening and hired a black woman with no experience to comply with government quota.
the company went under and was bought out a few years later.
The other thing is that the shooter at that mall awhile ago and this shooter weren't really American citizens either. Granted the VT killer had been here awhile, though.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
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so why were they allowed to buy guns then????
this is a valid question i have... the 2nd ammendment gives the right to bear arms to its CITIZENS.. so why did a "resident alien" who was only in america to study allowed a firearm
someone answer that!!!
That's an interesting question.
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Something about cold, dead fingers on their guns, I'd guess.
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they are not allowed to buy guns. they broke the law. if laws had any meaning; there wouldn't be crime. laws only give the government the right to prosecute. they don't stop crime.
how about i take your freedom of speech away?? how would you like that?? regardless of whether or not its the "wild west" anymore, its a 2nd amendment right....people do other things besides kill people with guns if you havent noticed
why would the nra respond at all? this is not a second ammendment issue; it is a criminal issue. jack daniels doesn't respond to drunk driving incidents nor does chevrolet.
I haven't...
guns are for killing, right...? what do you use yours for...brushing your teeth, a salt shaker, to put that extra bulge in your pants....?
please, tell us about some of the "other things"...
well said. although it's still the wild west where i live.
he didnt break any law if, for instance, he went along to a Gun Show in Virginia as its perfectly legal to buy a gun at one of these shows without any background checks!!!
Target shooting, skeet shooting, sport of that nature...
There is a big difference between killing people, which the vast majority of privately owned guns in this country will never be used for, and killing game.
why can't you use a rock...they can break things, too...
I'd be willing to bet a vast majority of privately owned guns are for "protection"...i.e. "killing, just in case...."
uh..ever heard of hunting?? or are you against killing animals?? ever heard of target shooting?? ever heard of skeet shooting?? ever heard of collecting guns? im for making the gun laws extremely strict, but banning them because you have a bunch of fuckin idiots on drugs that like to shoot people up?? hell no....you are the kind of people that only scream "CONSTITUTION" when its convienent for you....2nd amendment bitch
And I'd be willing to bet that the vast majority are used for hunting and sport.
ITS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT DICK HEAD!! MOVE TO ANOTHER COUNTRY IF YOU WANT THE GOVERNMENT TELLING YOU WHAT CAN AND CANT HAVE!!