Why do people get all worked up over restricting the type of weapon a person may own. Who needs a semi-automatic assault rifle? We are not talking about restricting ownership of hunting weapons.
There has to be some limit to the right to bear arms. For example, according the the NRA logic....I could own a fucking tank if I wanted to because it is my right to bear arms: http://www.haaland.info/norway/tank/bilder/leopard2.jpg
Careful there. In your appreciated attempt to remain light-hearted about this issue you almost placed some blame on people i.e. morons rather than the guns themselves.
Bottom line...
We're gonna haer the pundits and 'experts' yammer on and on about Gun Control/Second amendment... blah-blah-blah...
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Then, it will go away and we'll forget about it and nothing will get done... til the next nut pops off and shoots up the place.
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Hail, Hail!!!
Bottom line...
We're gonna haer the pundits and 'experts' yammer on and on about Gun Control/Second amendment... blah-blah-blah...
...
Then, it will go away and we'll forget about it and nothing will get done... til the next nut pops off and shoots up the place.
as hard as that is to swallow that is true and it will always be that way.
I'll wait up in the dark
For you to speak to me
I'll open up
Release me
Why do people get all worked up over restricting the type of weapon a person may own. Who needs a semi-automatic assault rifle? We are not talking about restricting ownership of hunting weapons.
There has to be some limit to the right to bear arms. For example, according the the NRA logic....I could own a fucking tank if I wanted to because it is my right to bear arms: http://www.haaland.info/norway/tank/bilder/leopard2.jpg
The question is where to draw the line.
You can't afford a tank. So I guess that problem is solved.
You can't afford a tank. So I guess that problem is solved.
how much are they? im going to be pulling in some serious money before long... and if i show up to negotiations in an M-1 it will certainly show them i dont fuck around.
Bottom line...
We're gonna haer the pundits and 'experts' yammer on and on about Gun Control/Second amendment... blah-blah-blah...
...
Then, it will go away and we'll forget about it and nothing will get done... til the next nut pops off and shoots up the place.
actually; as long as the us has the constitution; it's citizens will always own guns. and removing the constitution will take a full scale war. so the debate is moot.
how much are they? im going to be pulling in some serious money before long... and if i show up to negotiations in an M-1 it will certainly show them i dont fuck around.
check out the surplus auctions. i found one sitting in front of a VFW lodge in phoenix. you can also try the shot-gun news.
Why do people get all worked up over restricting the type of weapon a person may own. Who needs a semi-automatic assault rifle? We are not talking about restricting ownership of hunting weapons.
There has to be some limit to the right to bear arms. For example, according the the NRA logic....I could own a fucking tank if I wanted to because it is my right to bear arms: http://www.haaland.info/norway/tank/bilder/leopard2.jpg
The question is where to draw the line.
The line is found in the previous writings of our founding fathers. They clearly intended it to mean small arms, arms you can 'bear'.
how much are they? im going to be pulling in some serious money before long... and if i show up to negotiations in an M-1 it will certainly show them i dont fuck around.
$2,350,000-4,300,000 per unit, depending on the variant.
its not like saying that at all.. poor analogy... thats a preventative measure..
Sprinklers in ceilings only go off if there is already a fire then they act to put it out. Why wait for the fire department to get there when you can put it out before it gets out of control?
actually; as long as the us has the constitution; it's citizens will always own guns. and removing the constitution will take a full scale war. so the debate is moot.
btw; it is legal to own a tank.
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Who is talking about 'Removing the Constitution'? You are... no one else.
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And Read the Second Amendment:
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
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It is vague... which is the beauty of the Constitution. It is not a directive or a dictate... but, a RIGHT.
"A Well-Regulated Militia"... is that the Branches of our Armed Forces some dude and his drinkin' buddies hold up in a compound with a stockpile of weapons?
"... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Is that all citizens or the Citizen Army (Militia) needed to defend itself against the Armies of England, Spain and France... or some guy looking to shoot his girlfriend in the face for banging a bartender?
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Also... what Tanks were available for sale in 1776?
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I'm not against the Second Amendment. I favor an Army made up of American Citizens, rather than seeking my protection behind a Foriegn Army.
As for Joe on the Streets of Los Angeles... No... i DON'T want every Joe on the street to be armed. There are a lot of assholes and fools out there and I like it that not all of them have guns. I know there are a lot of responsible americans that own guns... no problem. I also know there are a lot of dickhead Americans that have no business carrying a gun. Doubt me? Go down to your local DMV, have a look around and get back to me.
Allen Fieldhouse, home of the 2008 NCAA men's Basketball Champions! Go Jayhawks!
Hail, Hail!!!
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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It is vague... which is the beauty of the Constitution. It is not a directive or a dictate... but, a RIGHT.
"A Well-Regulated Militia"... is that the Branches of our Armed Forces some dude and his drinkin' buddies hold up in a compound with a stockpile of weapons?
"... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Is that all citizens or the Citizen Army (Militia) needed to defend itself against the Armies of England, Spain and France... or some guy looking to shoot his girlfriend in the face for banging a bartender?
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It really isn't vague if you go back and read the writings and debates of the founders. In fact, most courts have upheld the notion that it is an individual right.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
I love black people but boy I hate niggas. The problem is that these fuckers are never taken out en masse like they should be. It is always students for some reason. If I were the guy behind that blue car, I would have ran over that guy without a second thought.
And for those defending the second amendment: get a fucking life. This is 2007 and there is no need to sell handguns or assault rifles anymore. I guarantee you that the guy who shot up the school could not have done so if people didn't readily sell handguns. I doubt that he would have gotten very far if he tried to walk towards the school with a hunting rifle. Fucking stupid rednecks married to their "right to bear arms". So uncivilized.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
we lose many innocent people each day from "whackos" who just hop in their auto and take off and cause an accident that ends anothers life. until we get control of this needless loss of innocent life, guns will never cease to exsist.
i once did a paper on the topic of gun control and my thesis was....
Why do we need cars that go faster than the highest posted speed limit? The argument at the time was "high capacity magazines" so i raised the question and made the point using cars.
live and let live...unless it violates the pearligious doctrine.
It has been reported that he was carrying a Ruger 10/22. Probably the most common hunting rifle in America.
The reports I heard were that he had 2 handguns and the video seems to uphold this. If he got into a school with a hunting rifle and killed 32 people, he must have been training for years.
1/12/1879, 4/8/1156, 2/6/1977, who gives a shit, ...
The reports I heard were that he had 2 handguns and the video seems to uphold this. If he got into a school with a hunting rifle and killed 32 people, he must have been training for years.
Sprinklers in ceilings only go off if there is already a fire then they act to put it out. Why wait for the fire department to get there when you can put it out before it gets out of control?
Analogy fits perfectly. Sorry!
giving a geeky physics teacher a fucking handgun and expecting him to KILL someone he believes MIGHT have a gun DOES NOT equate to putting sprinklers in a school.. :rolleyes:
holy fuck.. with that attitude its no surprise people in your country will continue killing each other
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
We missed the boat on gun control a long time ago. Even if you outright banned guns now, there's millions and millions of them already. Sleep tight.
i understand and appreciate that... and its a shame.. but something needs to be done!!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
We missed the boat on gun control a long time ago. Even if you outright banned guns now, there's millions and millions of them already. Sleep tight.
We in Australia had a massive gun buyback scheme 10 years ago. No, the gun ownership here at the time doesn't in anyway match the numbers in America, but hey, we did it here. It's a matter of political will.
As I've pointed out in another thread, it was quite successful, too.
All I see is another gun debate after yet another massacre in the US... people clamoring for their constitutional right to bear arms, saying that guns don't kill... this debate will go in circles and die down like all the others... until the next shooting..... with guns that are readily available and not deemed dangerous and deadly weapons...
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okay everyone gets a Smith and Wesson.... (-:
There has to be some limit to the right to bear arms. For example, according the the NRA logic....I could own a fucking tank if I wanted to because it is my right to bear arms: http://www.haaland.info/norway/tank/bilder/leopard2.jpg
The question is where to draw the line.
i am thinking that you're not referring to today's events as "evolution"?
To quote comedic genius Eddie Izzard.
Careful there. In your appreciated attempt to remain light-hearted about this issue you almost placed some blame on people i.e. morons rather than the guns themselves.
We're gonna haer the pundits and 'experts' yammer on and on about Gun Control/Second amendment... blah-blah-blah...
...
Then, it will go away and we'll forget about it and nothing will get done... til the next nut pops off and shoots up the place.
Hail, Hail!!!
For you to speak to me
I'll open up
Release me
You can't afford a tank. So I guess that problem is solved.
how much are they? im going to be pulling in some serious money before long... and if i show up to negotiations in an M-1 it will certainly show them i dont fuck around.
actually; as long as the us has the constitution; it's citizens will always own guns. and removing the constitution will take a full scale war. so the debate is moot.
btw; it is legal to own a tank.
check out the surplus auctions. i found one sitting in front of a VFW lodge in phoenix. you can also try the shot-gun news.
The line is found in the previous writings of our founding fathers. They clearly intended it to mean small arms, arms you can 'bear'.
$2,350,000-4,300,000 per unit, depending on the variant.
Sprinklers in ceilings only go off if there is already a fire then they act to put it out. Why wait for the fire department to get there when you can put it out before it gets out of control?
Analogy fits perfectly. Sorry!
Who is talking about 'Removing the Constitution'? You are... no one else.
...
And Read the Second Amendment:
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
...
It is vague... which is the beauty of the Constitution. It is not a directive or a dictate... but, a RIGHT.
"A Well-Regulated Militia"... is that the Branches of our Armed Forces some dude and his drinkin' buddies hold up in a compound with a stockpile of weapons?
"... the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." Is that all citizens or the Citizen Army (Militia) needed to defend itself against the Armies of England, Spain and France... or some guy looking to shoot his girlfriend in the face for banging a bartender?
...
Also... what Tanks were available for sale in 1776?
...
I'm not against the Second Amendment. I favor an Army made up of American Citizens, rather than seeking my protection behind a Foriegn Army.
As for Joe on the Streets of Los Angeles... No... i DON'T want every Joe on the street to be armed. There are a lot of assholes and fools out there and I like it that not all of them have guns. I know there are a lot of responsible americans that own guns... no problem. I also know there are a lot of dickhead Americans that have no business carrying a gun. Doubt me? Go down to your local DMV, have a look around and get back to me.
Hail, Hail!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MmhPF9cDBc
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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It really isn't vague if you go back and read the writings and debates of the founders. In fact, most courts have upheld the notion that it is an individual right.
I love black people but boy I hate niggas. The problem is that these fuckers are never taken out en masse like they should be. It is always students for some reason. If I were the guy behind that blue car, I would have ran over that guy without a second thought.
And for those defending the second amendment: get a fucking life. This is 2007 and there is no need to sell handguns or assault rifles anymore. I guarantee you that the guy who shot up the school could not have done so if people didn't readily sell handguns. I doubt that he would have gotten very far if he tried to walk towards the school with a hunting rifle. Fucking stupid rednecks married to their "right to bear arms". So uncivilized.
i once did a paper on the topic of gun control and my thesis was....
Why do we need cars that go faster than the highest posted speed limit? The argument at the time was "high capacity magazines" so i raised the question and made the point using cars.
It has been reported that he was carrying a Ruger 10/22. Probably the most common hunting rifle in America.
The reports I heard were that he had 2 handguns and the video seems to uphold this. If he got into a school with a hunting rifle and killed 32 people, he must have been training for years.
Not that serious, my friend.
No, it will simply show that the word "negotiation" has no meaning to you.
10/22's are small.
giving a geeky physics teacher a fucking handgun and expecting him to KILL someone he believes MIGHT have a gun DOES NOT equate to putting sprinklers in a school.. :rolleyes:
holy fuck.. with that attitude its no surprise people in your country will continue killing each other
the other foot in the gutter
sweet smell that they adore
I think I'd rather smother
-The Replacements-
i understand and appreciate that... and its a shame.. but something needs to be done!!!
I was reading a large majority of gun deaths are from suicides.
Interesting statistics webpage:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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As I've pointed out in another thread, it was quite successful, too.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/opinion/a-shot-at-safety/2006/04/27/1145861484114.html?page=fullpage