ANOTHER High School shooting

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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Oh ... And I do like the McCready part of your sig.
    :)
  • aNiMaL
    aNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    All I am saying is that the problem is with the man, not the weapon. Saying this was the guns fault is like saying Ozzy Osborne’s music caused some kid to off himself. Or a video game was to blame for any other heinous act by a human being.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Get the all rioting fucks off your streets and then tell people over here on this continent what to do.

    first off, you are in cananda... and you obviously realise the guns are coming in from the states... yet you still think that the americans should have them???

    as for the quote above... what you fucking on about man??
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • denverfan
    denverfan Posts: 218
    aNiMaL wrote:
    All I am saying is that the problem is with the man, not the weapon. Saying this was the guns fault is like saying Ozzy Osborne’s music caused some kid to off himself. Or a video game was to blame for any other heinous act by a human being.

    Those of you who think guns are to blame are jaded...it's exactly what this guy said...The guy is to blame, not the gun...you can hold someone hostage with a knife, it's been done before!
    "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity but they've always worked for me." Gonzo

    'If my fuckin' ex-wife told me to take care of her dog while her and her new boyfriend went to Honolulu, I'd tell her to go fuck herself." -The Dude

    Whisky Drinker, Non-Hunter from Denver.
  • pushmepullme
    pushmepullme Posts: 255
    denverfan wrote:
    Those of you who think guns are to blame are jaded...it's exactly what this guy said...The guy is to blame, not the gun...you can hold someone hostage with a knife, it's been done before!

    Well he wouldn't have shot the girl without a gun would he? Lol.
    "I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)

    "Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)

    --Ed

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    --Ed

  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    dunkman1974 wrote:
    first off, you are in cananda... and you obviously realise the guns are coming in from the states... yet you still think that the americans should have them???

    as for the quote above... what you fucking on about man??

    Sorry ... The generalizations in this thread are annoying. Americans do this and Americans do that ... Yes, I think LAW-ABIDING people should have a right to own a firearm for non-criminal purposes. Apparently this means I am ignorant and backward.
  • pushmepullme
    pushmepullme Posts: 255
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Sorry ... The generalizations in this thread are annoying. Americans do this and Americans do that ... Yes, I think LAW-ABIDING people should have a right to own a firearm for non-criminal purposes. Apparently this means I am ignorant and backward.

    For all you know this guy was a law abiding citizen before he went on the rampage.
    "I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)

    "Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)

    --Ed

    "Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)

    --Ed

  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    pushmepullme wrote:
    Well he wouldn't have shot the girl without a gun would he? Lol.

    You do realize that the majority of murders my country are actually done WITHOUT firearms?
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    aNiMaL wrote:
    All I am saying is that the problem is with the man, not the weapon. Saying this was the guns fault is like saying Ozzy Osborne’s music caused some kid to off himself. Or a video game was to blame for any other heinous act by a human being.


    imagine if we all had access to a nuclear weapon.. and one day some mental fucker used his and blew up Iceland (sorry Iceland.. random!!) of course it would be the mentalists fault he killed all those people... now imagine the same scenario where no-one has access to a nuclear weapon... one day a mental fucker blews up nothing... he's still a mental fucker but all he days now is wank all day and stick penguins up his arse..

    take away the gun and you still have a mad mental dude... but he might only kill himself or a dog or something... i doubt he would attack a whole school using a water pistol... not really the same carnage is it!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    according to dunkman when we get rid of guns we will have no one dying.....because you know before the invention fo the gun no one ever died.

    Lol thank god in america we are allowed to keep our guns!
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    pushmepullme wrote:
    For all you know this guy was a law abiding citizen before he went on the rampage.

    And for all you know, this guy would have killed one or more people even without a gun.
  • pushmepullme
    pushmepullme Posts: 255
    reborncareerist wrote:
    You do realize that the majority of murders my country are actually done WITHOUT firearms?

    Majority? Please provide figures to back that up. It doesn't matter anyway, one innocent kid being shot is too many, I can't believe you're justifying it.
    "I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)

    "Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)

    --Ed

    "Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)

    --Ed

  • pushmepullme
    pushmepullme Posts: 255
    reborncareerist wrote:
    And for all you know, this guy would have killed one or more people even without a gun.

    So your argument is keep the gun because people will kill each other anyway?
    "I am a doughnut." (live - Berlin, Germany - 11/03/96)

    "Behave like rock stars - not like the President." (live - Noblesville, IN - 8/17/98)

    --Ed

    "Yeah, I was gonna learn to play it (Breath) but somebody slipped me a bottle of viagra and was busy doing something else six times last night" (live - New York, NY - 9/10/98)

    --Ed

  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    pushmepullme wrote:
    Majority? Please provide figures to back that up. It doesn't matter anyway, one innocent kid being shot is too many, I can't believe you're justifying it.


    And I can't believe that you actually think that guns magically transform people into killers.

    Go to the Stats Canada website. I think its http://www.statscanada.ca
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    denverfan wrote:
    Those of you who think guns are to blame are jaded...it's exactly what this guy said...The guy is to blame, not the gun...you can hold someone hostage with a knife, it's been done before!

    of course the guy is to blame... he pulled the trigger!!! take away the trigger and the guy would have been shouting BANG!!! and that girl would just have a sore ear rather than be dead!!!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    And I welcome anyone's attempt to locate a post where I actually justify people dying. Go on ... Give it a go.
  • miller8966
    miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    DUnkman and push' arguments are severly flawed...no reason to argue with illogical people
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Actually, that stats can website is a bloody nightmare ...

    Go here if you're having trouble there:
    http://teapot.usask.ca/cdn-firearms/Faq/ctg.html

    Yes, its by someone who obviously disagrees with our gun registry (with good reason). You can dismiss it as a biased source, but the part about murder stats is accurate.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    DUnkman and push' arguments are severly flawed...no reason to argue with illogical people


    wheres the flaw? where's the non-logic of my points?

    since 1994 as a result of the Dunblane massacre in Scotland handguns were banned here in the UK... in the ten years since this law was passed gun-related deaths have halved!

    at least i can argue and back up my arguments with fact and reasoned logic.. you continue to spew forth arrogant jibes that dont even begin to permeate my resolve on this issue... you are verbally redundant
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    dunkman1974 wrote:
    wheres the flaw? where's the non-logic of my points?

    since 1994 as a result of the Dunblane massacre in Scotland handguns were banned here in the UK... in the ten years since this law was passed gun-related deaths have halved!

    at least i can argue and back up my arguments with fact and reasoned logic.. you continue to spew forth arrogant jibes that dont even begin to permeate my resolve on this issue... you are verbally redundant

    Maybe so, but I have stats that show that restrictive gun laws don't work, at least here.
    This suggests that the story is deeper than just more laws, no?

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