Did Obama campaign bar two Muslim women from photo?

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edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html

Muslims barred from picture at Obama event

Two Muslim women at Barack Obama's rally in Detroit on Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women's headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    The Obama campaign did not, moronic volunteers who think they are doing the right thing did.
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  • Rats of Multa
    Rats of Multa Posts: 250
    ledvedderman wrote:
    The Obama campaign did not, moronic volunteers who think they are doing the right thing did.


    talk about a crock-of-shit.....

    ive been having a really wonderful day, but this simply nails down the fact that American-politics have become the lowest form of "culture" on earth. beyond disgraceful, this is a wretched turn of events.
    we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
    to dust i guess,
    forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Pretty much a no win situation for Obama on this one. Refuse to seat the women behind the podium and look prejudicial. Seat the women behind the podium and see the photos scatter across the internet as proof that Obama is a radical muslim jihadist. Either way Unsung wets himself in euphoric anticipation of a ridiculous Obama smear pulled straight from the Sean Hannity show.
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  • mca47
    mca47 Posts: 13,335
    cornnifer wrote:
    Pretty much a no win situation for Obama on this one. Refuse to seat the women behind the podium and look prejudicial. Seat the women behind the podium and see the photos scatter across the internet as proof that Obama is a radical muslim jihadist. Either way Unsung wets himself in euphoric anticipation of a ridiculous Obama smear pulled straight from the Sean Hannity show.

    You are exactly right.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Why not just let them sit where they want as it's a free world, and argue reality on that premise?

    Surely people have enough common sense to realize it's a multi cultural world. umn...scratch that... that's giving too much credit to a lot of people.

    In any event, I will not be surprised if/when the same US foreign policy continues on after Bush.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Rats of Multa wrote:
    talk about a crock-of-shit.....

    ive been having a really wonderful day, but this simply nails down the fact that American-politics have become the lowest form of "culture" on earth. beyond disgraceful, this is a wretched turn of events.

    Please tell me that was sarcastic. These people are volunteers who thought they were doing Obama a service, when in fact they proved why they just volunteers and not paid staffers.
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  • Rats of Multa
    Rats of Multa Posts: 250
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Please tell me that was sarcastic. These people are volunteers who thought they were doing Obama a service, when in fact they proved why they just volunteers and not paid staffers.

    yeah because "volunteers" show-up and figure the best course of assistance is to impliment racist seating policies upon their own volition....
    we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
    to dust i guess,
    forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    You give volunteers the easy tasks. Passing out signs, seating, etc. These people took it too far and broke the cardinal rule of campaigning---don't make the candidate look stupid
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  • Rats of Multa
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    everyone is entitled to form an opinion on this, and really who knows but the central figures in Barak's campaign,... but this is shady and sounds like these volunteers are the scape-goats of a bigotted campaign to maintain specific degrees of P.R. and here i thought Hillary Clinton was out of the race!
    we don’t know just where our bones will rest,
    to dust i guess,
    forgotten and absorbed into the earth below,..
  • chipboy
    chipboy Posts: 137
    I was at the St Paul rally a few weeks ago and there were a couple of woman in headscarves that were standing near the front of the stage when they let everyone in. By the time Obama came on stage they were far in the back out of camera view. Were they asked to move? I don't know. I assumed they moved on their own but now I wonder.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Why not just let them sit where they want as it's a free world, and argue reality on that premise?
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    Surely people have enough common sense to realize it's a multi cultural world. umn...scratch that... that's giving too much credit to a lot of people.
    :D
    In any event, I will not be surprised if/when the same US foreign policy continues on after Bush.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Rats of Multa wrote:
    everyone is entitled to form an opinion on this, and really who knows but the central figures in Barak's campaign,... but this is shady and sounds like these volunteers are the scape-goats of a bigotted campaign to maintain specific degrees of P.R. and here i thought Hillary Clinton was out of the race!

    I can't think of one campaign I have ever been on where a volunteer thinks they are campaign strategist and makes a boneheaded move like this. It happens all the time. This situation reeks of that being the case.
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  • my2hands
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    unsung wrote:
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11168.html

    Muslims barred from picture at Obama event

    Two Muslim women at Barack Obama's rally in Detroit on Monday were barred from sitting behind the podium by campaign volunteers seeking to prevent the women's headscarves from appearing in photographs or on television with the candidate.


    you need a hobby, besides childish attacks on obama that is
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I can't think of one campaign I have ever been on where a volunteer thinks they are campaign strategist and makes a boneheaded move like this. It happens all the time. This situation reeks of that being the case.
    Obama is only as strong as his weakest link, in all ways. As we all are.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    my2hands wrote:
    you need a hobby, besides childish attacks on obama that is
    what is childish about unsung's post? For that matter, how is it an "attack"?
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  • blackredyellow
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    ledvedderman wrote:
    You give volunteers the easy tasks. Passing out signs, seating, etc. These people took it too far and broke the cardinal rule of campaigning---don't make the candidate look stupid


    I'm kinda in the middle on this one... I would think something as politically important as who is in the background in camera range would be something too important to leave up to random volunteers, but who knows, they could have been doing the initial screening until the campaign officials got everyone situated.

    But as mentioned before, it was a no win situation in this political climate... either discriminate against people based on their appearance, or become fodder for e-mails forwards and talk radio for being a jihad loving muslim.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    blackredyellow wrote:
    But as mentioned before, it was a no win situation in this political climate... either discriminate against people based on their appearance, or become fodder for e-mails forwards and talk radio for being a jihad loving muslim.

    Agreed. No matter what happened, he'd catch flack for this.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    blackredyellow wrote:
    I'm kinda in the middle on this one... I would think something as politically important as who is in the background in camera range would be something too important to leave up to random volunteers, but who knows, they could have been doing the initial screening until the campaign officials got everyone situated.

    But as mentioned before, it was a no win situation in this political climate... either discriminate against people based on their appearance, or become fodder for e-mails forwards and talk radio for being a jihad loving muslim.

    The way I see it, Obama's already dealing with the "He's a Muslim" e-mail and talk radio stuffs. This would just be more on that fire. But now he's got a whole new blaze a-burning.
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  • Abookamongstthemany
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    blackredyellow wrote:
    I'm kinda in the middle on this one... I would think something as politically important as who is in the background in camera range would be something too important to leave up to random volunteers, but who knows, they could have been doing the initial screening until the campaign officials got everyone situated.

    But as mentioned before, it was a no win situation in this political climate... either discriminate against people based on their appearance, or become fodder for e-mails forwards and talk radio for being a jihad loving muslim.


    How about keeping your integrity and not denying these women their seats based on their race OVER the risk of being made to look like 'jihad loving muslim' because the only people that buy into that kind of crap already have their minds made up and think that way anyway.
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  • rebornFixer
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    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    How about keeping your integrity and not denying these women their seats based on their race OVER the risk of being made to look like 'jihad loving muslim' because the only people that buy into that kind of crap already have their minds made up and think that way anyway.

    Point.

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