It's Sarah Palin

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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Please tell me the last time the VP candidates position on abortion did anything to effect abortion in America.

    That is exactly why I have stopped caring about candidate's positions on abortion, as Obama says...this is a big election, don't let it come down to small issues.

    I'll tell you 1 thing...I'm betting that the Dems are not happy about this. They had a plan in place I'm sure to go after the McCain ticket, and I doubt it ever crossed their minds that it could be McCain/Palin...well, for more than a few seconds.


    just so everyone is aware... McCain is pro life but he has no intention of making that the law.. HE USES HIS OWN MIND.. not his parties.
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    mccain picked himself a female who's views mirror his own...old white guy views......pro-life, pro-NRA, and least that is what i am reading so far....so not much 'change' there...except for gender. those who think hillary supporters will go ga-ga over this choice, grossly underestimate women. women will not chooce a woman simply b/c she is a woman. they choose a candidate at least partly based on what he/she offers FOR women, and a prolifer is NOT the choice most women, and most certainly not hillary supporters...would choose. hell, i am a woman and i have been thinking obama for a long time now.

    Exactly. VP picks are basically just wrapping paper on a gift. Not needed, but it's gets the media's dicks hard for a couple of days and gives you a decent boost.

    Women will not vote for a man who has voted against equal pay for women every time since he has been in the Senate or against a woman's right to choice.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Please tell me the last time the VP candidates position on abortion did anything to effect abortion in America.

    That is exactly why I have stopped caring about candidate's positions on abortion, as Obama says...this is a big election, don't let it come down to small issues.

    I'll tell you 1 thing...I'm betting that the Dems are not happy about this. They had a plan in place I'm sure to go after the McCain ticket, and I doubt it ever crossed their minds that it could be McCain/Palin...well, for more than a few seconds.

    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack. McCain's campaign is going to have to spend time telling the country who this woman is, that is time and money taken away from selling himself and/or attacking his opponent.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    Exactly. VP picks are basically just wrapping paper on a gift.


    Cheney's just wrapping paper?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    mammasan wrote:
    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack. McCain's campaign is going to have to spend time telling the country who this woman is, that is time and money taken away from selling himself and/or attacking his opponent.


    Yes it will, I just happen to think that's it's worth it. Everyone always likes someone better before they've had the time to get to know everything about them. ;)
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Also her inexperience coupled with McCain's age can be a liability. I know one of the first things I would point out is that fact. What if something happens to McCain do we want this inexperienced first term governor fro Alaska as our president. I personally don't see anything wrong with that but you can sure bet that many voter do.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    Cheney's just wrapping paper?
    Yes. It assures you will not be disappointed if the gift is a package of tube socks.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Yes it will, I just happen to think that's it's worth it. Everyone always likes someone better before they've had the time to get to know everything about them. ;)


    I would actually prefer her as the presidential candidate over McCain or Obama.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    mammasan wrote:
    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack. McCain's campaign is going to have to spend time telling the country who this woman is, that is time and money taken away from selling himself and/or attacking his opponent.


    If you want change, you should be ok with this...no?

    So, it'll be issue that the Reb VP has little experience, but not an issue that the Dem Presidential candidate has little experience?
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    If you want change, you should be ok with this...no?

    So, it'll be issue that the Reb VP has little experience, but not an issue that the Dem Presidential candidate has little experience?

    That's why this is probably an OK choice for McCain. If it was two experienced Democrats they'd be open to the attacks, but when the TOP of the ticket is inexperienced, they cannot attack the opposing running mate for the same.
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    mammasan wrote:
    I like Palin, but she is inexperienced an opens up a lot of hole for the Dems to attack..

    They already started with it..."Shes less experienced than Barack!"

    I can't believe that's what the dems are are going with, now just flipping the McCain shit talk on experience.


    Obama, give us something new.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    MrBrian wrote:
    They already started with it..."Shes less experienced than Barack!"

    I can't believe that's what the dems are are going with, now just flipping the McCain shit talk on experience.


    Obama, give us something new.


    And that's why it's such a great pick...Obama has been running a terrific campaign, and now this is all they have????

    McCain just turned it up a notch, if the Dems don't do the same, they'll once again be complaining about how an election was stolen from them.
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  • lastexit78lastexit78 Posts: 618
    I'm just glad it wasn't Romney. That guy literally makes my stomach turn. Listening to him defend the last 8 years for the next 3 months would have been horrific.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    Cheney's just wrapping paper?

    Dick Cheney is anything but your typical VP. I mean, come on, the guy picked himself to be the veep...
  • peacegirlpeacegirl Posts: 841

    to the post above, most women will go with the presidential candidate who BESt represents women's rights/choices....and that would be obama by a landslide over mccain, no matter who he chose for VP.

    EXACTLY!
  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Just so everyone knows, I have been preaching Palin since around February. :)

    And again - Palin could raise boatloads of money for the GOP by giving lapdances at fundraisers.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    If you want change, you should be ok with this...no?

    So, it'll be issue that the Reb VP has little experience, but not an issue that the Dem Presidential candidate has little experience?

    I have no problem with it, of course I'm not voting for either candidate so it doesn't really matter what I think. As I stated in an earlier post I would prefer that she where running for president over McCain or Obama.
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Mrs Palin:

    - Eloped with her HS sweetheart to avoid a crazy expensive wedding

    - Rose to office by going after the then-GOP governer for ethics violations

    - Played basketball

    - Was a sportscaster on tv

    - Squeaky-clean image

    - Has a son on his way to Iraq in a few months so she's personally vested in what happens here. It's easier to support a war when it's just a video game on your tv

    - Went back to work three days after having a baby

    She sounds grounded to me. We'll hear more about her national policies soon and learn more , hopefully.

    I think in this election the VP choice may matter more than in the past. This is because 1) Cheney greatly expanded the VP role and 2) there is a higher likelihood of the VP being in office as the Prez. Too many crazy hilljacks that won't salute a black man and McCain is old.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    She also kills Biden in terms of being "blue collar."

    Her husband is an oil rig worker and a commercial fisherman. And her son is being deployed to Iraq next month so you can't attack her for being detached from the war which is a common attack strategy by Dems.

    She's just a real good choice.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
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    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Solat13 wrote:
    She also kills Biden in terms of being "blue collar."

    Her husband is an oil rig worker and a commercial fisherman. And her son is being deployed to Iraq next month so you can't attack her for being detached from the war which is a common attack strategy by Dems.

    She's just a real good choice.

    Biden's son is also going to Iraq so that sort of levels that playing field.
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  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    McCain is old enough to be her grandfather.
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    mammasan wrote:
    Biden's son is also going to Iraq so that sort of levels that playing field.

    True, but Biden's other son got a cushy job from MBNA who is Biden's leading corporate donor.

    I just think it's going to be hard for Biden to push a message for "Change" to support Obama when he's been in Congress since Nixon and Obama was 11 and Palin was 8 when he started serving.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
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    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
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    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    Solat13 wrote:
    True, but Biden's other son got a cushy job from MBNA who is Biden's leading corporate donor.

    I just think it's going to be hard for Biden to push a message for "Change" to support Obama when he's been in Congress since Nixon and Obama was 11 and Palin was 8 when he started serving.


    so what?
    seriously....hasn't mccain been around forever as well? and if elected he WILL be the president, rather than simply the VP. while a well-balanced ticket, and well-blanced pres/vp is important, bottomline...who IS the president to me, is THE most important. in regards to the whole 'change' idea.....i don't care what age you are or howq long you've been around...it's what you do....and that idea of 'change' can be embraced at any age or point of experience....depending on what you want to accomplish.


    anyhoo....it most definitely is a VERY strategic move, and a good choice for him, no doubt. however, i STILL want to see obama as our next president. mccain, palin as VP or not, will NOT be the presidency i want to see guide our future.
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  • pateljampateljam Posts: 340
    macgyver06 wrote:
    did geraldine have sex appeal?

    Got a point there, Palin is damn sexy with those glasses on and she likes to shoot guns... what more would a man want....
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  • i think Obama just got owned.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    pateljam wrote:
    Got a point there, Palin is damn sexy with those glasses on and she likes to shoot guns... what more would a man want....


    reminds me of that girl from scooby doo... ooooo baby.... lets go solve a mystery
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    i think Obama just got owned.



    he is wondering... why did we have a our convention so early :)

    long way till november... he's out like DJ jazzy Jeff
  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    pateljam wrote:
    Got a point there, Palin is damn sexy with those glasses on and she likes to shoot guns... what more would a man want....

    And played basketball. And hit clutch free-throws at game's end with an ankle injury.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    so what?
    seriously....hasn't mccain been around forever as well? and if elected he WILL be the president, rather than simply the VP. while a well-balanced ticket, and well-blanced pres/vp is important, bottomline...who IS the president to me, is THE most important. in regards to the whole 'change' idea.....i don't care what age you are or howq long you've been around...it's what you do....and that idea of 'change' can be embraced at any age or point of experience....depending on what you want to accomplish.


    anyhoo....it most definitely is a VERY strategic move, and a good choice for him, no doubt. however, i STILL want to see obama as our next president. mccain, palin as VP or not, will NOT be the presidency i want to see guide our future.


    we would be in a much different place if Bush took John McCain instead of CHENEY... but Bush would have never done that because they dont agree on 95 % or whatever the dems were lying to you about... McCain has always supported every president... EVERY PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES


    thats not cowardly... it takes balls not to bash bush
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,497
    pateljam wrote:
    Got a point there, Palin is damn sexy with those glasses on and she likes to shoot guns... what more would a man want....


    Personally, I don't want a woman that can handle a firearm. ;)
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