9/11 Truth: Bush Admin. sets the towers to fall, raises military budget, Iraq for OIL

OceansJenny

Instead of me blabbing for an entire page, how about you all just watch the videos I've just spent a good amount of time watching.

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Halifaxion

Theres pages among pages about everything you need to know about the TRUTH about the Bush administration. Heres some main points you all need to know (and are in this guys massive video files):
*Bush fraudulently won the 2000 and 2004 elections by linking innocent people's names (mostly african americans, who mostly vote democratic) with people who had commited crimes, thus putting up a "block" on their ability to vote (at least in Florida). Who to thank? Jeb Bush and others.
*Three drills, 2 performed and 1 "canceled", were performed in the pentagon months and years before 9/11 that outlined what to do if someone hijacked a plane and flew it into the Pentagon. Yet Bush and others claim planes crashing into buildings is something they never thought could happen.
*Planes crashing into buildings do not cause buildings (even skyscrapers) to collapse (example: Milan [?] fire). The collapse of the twin towers (and the less talked about but more important world trade center building 7) was caused by controlled demolitions.
*The owner of all of the World Trade center buildings acquired the buildings months before the attacks and put a hefty insurance policy on them. He turned an initial investment of millions of dollars into a 7 billion dollar profit.
*Bush used the 9/11 attacks to raise the military budget and to begin the war on Iraq
*The US air defense did nothing to offset the plane flying for the Pentagon (although a large base is 20 MILES from the Pentagon) and other military planes were either not scrambled or had delayed scrambling to go and stop the hijacked planes
*The NY fire department was close to putting out the flames in both towers when they suddenly heard "popping" sounds (aka detonators like for controlled demolitions) and the buildings started to collapse.
*Bin Laden's family was allowed to be flown out of the United States while the rest of the nation was grounded

Ok, I'm sick of typing, theres SO MUCH MORE, just watch the videos; if you don't already know this stuff, its astounding. And the "best" part is is that it's not just Bush; Johnson/Nixon did the same thing for Vietnam, and Roosevelt/Eisenhower (?) did the same thing for WWII.

pushmepullme

I think we've heard all these arguments before, and whilst I agree with them, posting them on here is just pointless as you'll just get shot down and told to go away.

walkthamile

pushmepullme wrote:

I think we've heard all these arguments before, and whilst I agree with them, posting them on here is just pointless as you'll just get shot down and told to go away.

Speaking of shot down...that's what they should have done to all three planes that hit their targets!

know1

What makes you know that this is the truth as opposed to other versions?

I won't bother to discuss them all, but the statement that the firefighters were close to putting out the flames is ridiculous. We all saw those flames and smoke pouring out of those buildings all the way until they fell.

my2hands

while i dont buy into every theory about 9/11 and what happened, i do not dismiss them all together. i do not trust the "official story" at all and have many questions about the events of that day and the events leading up to it. not to mention W stonewalled the 9/11 commission, then gave in after an agreement that allowed Dick to sit in the meeting, while at the same time neither had to be sweared in under oath? what were they so afraid of?

yield2me

the idea that Bush had those towers taken down on purpose is just sick...can't believe you would even post that trash, let alone fucking believe it!

I'm not going to address all your points but I will say that the thing about the firefighters hearing "popping" sounds like detonations is ridiculous. The building was on fire with buring jet fuel, hot enough to melt steel! uh...I'm sure there was lots of noise going on as the building fucking melted! come on!

farfromglorified

Beware the person who puts truth in all-caps.

hippiemom

Here's an alternate view from Skeptic magazine.

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html

onelongsong

pushmepullme wrote:

I think we've heard all these arguments before, and whilst I agree with them, posting them on here is just pointless as you'll just get shot down and told to go away.

i agree. not one demolition expert has said that they could successfully bring down the towers with controlled demolition.
why not watch the ghostbusters video. it proves ghosts exist. it's right there on video.

Abookamongstthemany

Eva posted a good article a while back if anyone missed it.

http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=225452

cincybearcat

People continue to waste time and energy focusing on the wrong things.

Instead of actually investigating what happened, why it happened, what went wrong with the response, how do we fix those issues, people continue to believe in the great myth of an all powerful George W that is dumb as rocks but can pull off the biggest consiracy since the moon landing (that's a joke).

And a lot of people want people wasting their time on this junk because it keeps them from asking the real questions.

Abookamongstthemany

cincybearcat wrote:

People continue to waste time and energy focusing on the wrong things.

Instead of actually investigating what happened, why it happened, what went wrong with the response, how do we fix those issues, people continue to believe in the great myth of an all powerful George W that is dumb as rocks but can pull off the biggest consiracy since the moon landing (that's a joke).

And a lot of people want people wasting their time on this junk because it keeps them from asking the real questions.

No one thinks GW masterminded this but continure on saying it if makes ya feel better.

cincybearcat

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

No one thinks GW masterminded this but continure on saying it if makes ya feel better.

Make me feel better?

COntinue to think that the government knocked the building down if it makes you feel better.

Abookamongstthemany

cincybearcat wrote:

Make me feel better?

COntinue to think that the government knocked the building down if it makes you feel better.

The theory revolves around a group of powerful people including some govt officials. And no, it doesn't make me feel better but I'm not going to ignore it either.

yield2me

the people who are responsible for knocking those buildings down were piloting those planes

cincybearcat

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

The theory revolves around a group of powerful people including some govt officials. And no, it doesn't make me feel better but I'm not going to ignore it either.

I'm pretty glad that you ignored my whole post except the GW portion. The jist is personally I think people are wasting their time with the consipracy theories that we knocked down our own buildings. And I think the government WANTS people to waste their time on this so we don;t ask them questions about what the hell where they doing before it happened to protect us from this type of event.

my2hands

cincybearcat wrote:

People continue to waste time and energy focusing on the wrong things.

Instead of actually investigating what happened, why it happened, what went wrong with the response, how do we fix those issues, people continue to believe in the great myth of an all powerful George W that is dumb as rocks but can pull off the biggest consiracy since the moon landing (that's a joke).

And a lot of people want people wasting their time on this junk because it keeps them from asking the real questions.

quick questions

why werent the planes shot down? why did bush read to a class? how do you fly a 747 at 500 mph 20 feet off the ground and hit the pentagon with limited training at a flight school that uses single wing planes? why would "W" stone wall the investigation, and then refuse to be sworn under oath after the greates tragedy in american history?

good luck

Abookamongstthemany

cincybearcat wrote:

I'm pretty glad that you ignored my whole post except the GW portion. The jist is personally I think people are wasting their time with the consipracy theories that we knocked down our own buildings. And I think the government WANTS people to waste their time on this so we don;t ask them questions about what the hell where they doing before it happened to protect us from this type of event.

I read it and I disagreed. If you think it's a waste then by all means you're free to think that. You act as if that all people do is spend their time on this and never have questioned the events before the attacks which we have.

yield2me

my2hands wrote:

quick questions

why werent the planes shot down? why did bush read to a class? how do you fly a 747 at 500 mph 20 feet off the ground and hit the pentagon with limited training at a flight school that uses single wing planes? why would "W" stone wall the investigation, and then refuse to be sworn under oath after the greates tragedy in american history?

good luck

When can you ever remember a plane being hijacked and then shot down by any government. They didn't shoot it down because it was full of citizens and they didn't know that they were going to fly it into buildings.

cincybearcat

my2hands wrote:

quick questions

why werent the planes shot down? why did bush read to a class? how do you fly a 747 at 500 mph 20 feet off the ground and hit the pentagon with limited training at a flight school that uses single wing planes? why would "W" stone wall the investigation, and then refuse to be sworn under oath after the greates tragedy in american history?

good luck

1) People were too afraid to shoot down planes full of innocent people. I don't think they thought they would be flown into buildings...probably assumed it was going to be like most airline hijackings. That would have been a very difficult call to make.

2) He was scheduled to read to the class. He was in the middle of doing so. I believe he misjudged the situation and thought that him remaining calm and finishing was hte right move to try and help the rest of America stay calm. It was a dumb decision.

3) Don't know, not a pilot. But things can and do happen. Maybe Allah helped.

4) Every president would refuse to be sworn in under oath for ANYTHING so long as they can avoid it. As for stonewalling the investigation, he was being political when he shouldn;t have been. He didn;t want public finding of where his administration failed in protecting Americans. That's a political death sentence and would have been for the entire party. It was about politics.

Abookamongstthemany

yield2me wrote:

When can you ever remember a plane being hijacked and then shot down by any government. They didn't shoot it down because it was full of citizens and they didn't know that they were going to fly it into buildings.

What about the last plane that hit the pentagon? It hit an hour and half after the ones that hit the towers.