i don't understand why non 10c or pj staff members write i know something but can't tell. If i knew anything i would keep my mouth shut all together or just come out and say it. Not trying to be an ass my2hands but i just don't understand who u would be gettn in trouble by telln?
Leave Obama alone!!! He doesn't need PJ or any other band to help him. All they can do is hurt his chances. VFC 2004 hurt Kerry. He lost every important state that VFC played. VFC turned him into the Hollywood/Hippie candidate that the South and parts of the Midwest hate. Obama on his current path should destroy McCain in November. Leave well enough alone!
Leave Obama alone!!! He doesn't need PJ or any other band to help him. All they can do is hurt his chances. VFC 2004 hurt Kerry. He lost every important state that VFC played. VFC turned him into the Hollywood/Hippie candidate that the South and parts of the Midwest hate. Obama on his current path should destroy McCain in November. Leave well enough alone!
Leave Obama alone!!! He doesn't need PJ or any other band to help him. All they can do is hurt his chances. VFC 2004 hurt Kerry. He lost every important state that VFC played. VFC turned him into the Hollywood/Hippie candidate that the South and parts of the Midwest hate. Obama on his current path should destroy McCain in November. Leave well enough alone!
Crazy talk... Kerry lost because they scared people to make it close then stole it...
Crazy talk... Kerry lost because they scared people to make it close then stole it...
Bottom line is that he lost all the states that VFC focused on. VFC needs to find someone like Toby Keith if they want to make a real difference in the South. VFC simply preached to the choir over and over. The people at those shows in 04 were proabably 99% percent anti Bush before the tour was even thought of. Obama will dominate the Northeast and most of the West. But without Ohio or Florida he'll have the same fate that Kerry did. I say leave Obama alone and good things will happen. This guy is dynamic in a way the Kerry could only dream of.
This years VFC tour is going to be much larger then 2004... MUCH larger... more acts... more states...
thats all i am saying for now
wow.....bored....thanks
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Bottom line is that he lost all the states that VFC focused on. VFC needs to find someone like Toby Keith if they want to make a real difference in the South. VFC simply preached to the choir over and over. The people at those shows in 04 were proabably 99% percent anti Bush before the tour was even thought of. Obama will dominate the Northeast and most of the West. But without Ohio or Florida he'll have the same fate that Kerry did. I say leave Obama alone and good things will happen. This guy is dynamic in a way the Kerry could only dream of.
You guys are nuts if you think the VFC tour had any effect on the outcome of the '04 election.
So, any idea on when we're going to know about this tour? In the next week, month, 3 months??
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2007: Chicago
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2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
Bottom line is that he lost all the states that VFC focused on. VFC needs to find someone like Toby Keith if they want to make a real difference in the South. VFC simply preached to the choir over and over. The people at those shows in 04 were proabably 99% percent anti Bush before the tour was even thought of. Obama will dominate the Northeast and most of the West. But without Ohio or Florida he'll have the same fate that Kerry did. I say leave Obama alone and good things will happen. This guy is dynamic in a way the Kerry could only dream of.
I have ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION. I'm unable to get excited about ANY of the candidates. I do have to say that something about OBAMA doesn't sit right with me. That's not to say that any of the other candidates are any better but I really think PJ is kinda feeling the same way. They haven't backed anyone publicly or officially yet have they?
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The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
What has Obama actually done besides spout change. He has pratically said nothing about where he stands on any issues and what he would do different. The media is too afraid to question him or attack him because of race.
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I have ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION. I'm unable to get excited about ANY of the candidates. I do have to say that something about OBAMA doesn't sit right with me. That's not to say that any of the other candidates are any better but I really think PJ is kinda feeling the same way. They haven't backed anyone publicly or officially yet have they?
OMFG! He's better than fucking McBush... jesus people...
BTW I met Matt at the Obama rally and Stone and his wife have publicly announced support. Not that that should sway your decision but members have come out for support.
OMFG! He's better than fucking McBush... jesus people...
BTW I met Matt at the Obama rally and Stone and his wife have publicly announced support. Not that that should sway your decision but members have come out for support.
Thanks for the info and yes, anyone is better than BUSH.
The best use of Life is Love.
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
What has Obama actually done besides spout change. He has pratically said nothing about where he stands on any issues and what he would do different. The media is too afraid to question him or attack him because of race.
You have no idea what you are talking about... sorry to be blunt but you dont.
JULY??? You mean we have to go 4+ more months of the rumors and bitc...I mean other stuff before we know??
J/k February 22nd would be better but July is good. At least I have a general idea of when they're playing and I know not to use all my vacation days before then.
2006: Boston I, Camden II
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
JULY??? You mean we have to go 4+ more months of the rumors and bitc...I mean other stuff before we know??
J/k February 22nd would be better but July is good. At least I have a general idea of when they're playing and I know not to use all my vacation days before then.
I was told west coast... july... that's all I know
What has Obama actually done besides spout change. He has pratically said nothing about where he stands on any issues and what he would do different. The media is too afraid to question him or attack him because of race.
Bottom line is that he lost all the states that VFC focused on. VFC needs to find someone like Toby Keith if they want to make a real difference in the South. VFC simply preached to the choir over and over. The people at those shows in 04 were proabably 99% percent anti Bush before the tour was even thought of. Obama will dominate the Northeast and most of the West. But without Ohio or Florida he'll have the same fate that Kerry did. I say leave Obama alone and good things will happen. This guy is dynamic in a way the Kerry could only dream of.
Correct me if I am wrong however the point of the VFC 2004 wasn't that a bunch on Bush supporters would come to the show and all the sudden change their minds.....
It was to raise money to donate to organizations that promoted the idea of change and so they could focuses the money towards the swing states...
I hate this talking point that people seem to be grabbing onto. He's accomplished a lot as a public servant, Illinois State Senator and US Senator.
Pre-Politics:
He received his undergrad degree from Columbia, majored in political science with a specialization in international relations (I doubt W. even took a class on that subject).
Moved to Chicago to take a job as a community organizer. Worked with low-income residents in Chicago's Roseland community and the Altgeld Gardens public housing development.
He went to Harvard Law School in 1988 and was elected as Harvard Law Review's "first black president in its 104-year history". He completed his J.D. degree magna cum laude in 1991.
He returned to Chicago and directed a voter registration drive. As an attorney he represented community organizers, discrimination claims, and voting rights cases. He was a lecturer of constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1993-2004
Illinois Legislator:
Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.
He sponsored a law enhancing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.
He led the passage of legislation mandating videotaping of homicide interrogations, and a law to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they stopped. Despite this he still obtained the fraternal order of police's endorsement of his 2004 U.S. Senate bid.
He worked with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.
U.S. Senator:
He recruited a team of established, high-level advisers devoted to broad themes that exceeded the usual requirements of an incoming first-term senator (much like a cabinet).
In 2005, he co-sponsored the "Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act"
He added three amendments to the "Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act", which passed the Senate in May 2006 (but didn't pass the house.
The "Coburn-Obama Transparency Act" provides for the web site USAspending.gov. The site lists all organizations receiving Federal funds from 2007 onward and provides breakdowns by the agency allocating the funds, the dollar amount given, and the purpose of the grant or contract. (Transparent government is a key element to a true democracy. Sharp contrast to the current Bush quasi-dictatorship and it's document classification/destruction policy).
He was the primary sponsor of the "Democratic Republic of the Congo Relief, Security, and Democracy Promotion Act," which Bush signed into law.
He holds assignments on the Senate Committees for Foreign Relations; Health, Education, Labor and Pensions; Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs; and Veterans' Affairs.
He worked with Russ Feingold (D–WI) to eliminate gifts of travel on corporate jets by lobbyists to members of Congress and require disclosure of bundled campaign contributions under the "Honest Leadership and Open Government Act," which was also signed into law
He sponsored a bill to criminalize deceptive practices in federal elections, including fraudulent flyers and automated phone calls, as witnessed in the 2006 midterm elections.
He also introduced the "Iraq War De-Escalation Act", a bill to cap troop levels in Iraq, begin phased redeployment, and remove all combat brigades from Iraq before April 2008.
He co-sponsored an amendment to the 2008 Defense Authorization Act that added safeguards for personality disorder military discharges, and calling for a review by the Government Accountability Office following reports that the procedure had been used inappropriately to reduce government costs. (Usually by screwing the troops out of pay).
He sponsored the "Iran Sanctions Enabling Act" supporting divestment of state pension funds from Iran's oil and gas industry.
Obama also sponsored a Senate amendment to the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide one year of job protection for family members caring for soldiers with combat-related injuries.
Sure, some of the bills he has sponsored were not signed into law, but a lot of them were, by a asshole Republican president.
So let's see, he's worked to help the poor, the disenfranchised, the troops, the environment, homeland security, government transparency, and children. He's surrounded himself with experienced, intelligent people. He can give a hell of a speech and motivate millions (watch his keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention). And he's done it all with more integrity and honesty than 99% of the politicians out there, Democrats or Republicans.
Stop this, "Well, what has he even accomplished?" bullshit. Quick, tell me what your US Senators have accomplished! The truth is most of their work goes unnoticed by the vast majority of Americans who are too busy watching American Idol to care. Then all of a sudden the media starts saying that he hasn't accomplished anything and people believe it because they don't bother to look shit up and because Obama never got to the final round of American Idol.
End rant.
Speeches are not made for spewing this info listen to this
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The best expression of Love is Time.
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I'm never as good as when you're there.........
yeah, for real - you are worse than my 8th grade girlfriend - tease!
In that case........ROCK ON PEARL JAM!!
I'm kidding...........c'mon.......go ahead........slam me!!
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
Crazy talk... Kerry lost because they scared people to make it close then stole it...
Bottom line is that he lost all the states that VFC focused on. VFC needs to find someone like Toby Keith if they want to make a real difference in the South. VFC simply preached to the choir over and over. The people at those shows in 04 were proabably 99% percent anti Bush before the tour was even thought of. Obama will dominate the Northeast and most of the West. But without Ohio or Florida he'll have the same fate that Kerry did. I say leave Obama alone and good things will happen. This guy is dynamic in a way the Kerry could only dream of.
1996: Ft Lauderdale
1998: Birmingham
2000: Charlotte, Tampa
2003: Tampa, Atlanta, Phoenix
2004: Kissimmee
2008: West Palm Beach, Bonnaroo, Columbia
2010: MSG2
2012: Music Midtown
2014: Memphis
2018: Wrigley 1, Fenway 1
2022: Nashville
2023: Ft. Worth II
2024: Baltimore
Upcoming: 2025 Hollywood, FL Night 2
You guys are nuts if you think the VFC tour had any effect on the outcome of the '04 election.
lmao!!!
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
HTFD-6/27/08
ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
KC-5/3/2010,STL-5/4/2010
Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
PJ20-9/3/2011,9/4/2011
OKC-11/16/13
SEA-12/6/13
TUL-10/8/14
Julyish?
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I have ELECTILE DYSFUNCTION. I'm unable to get excited about ANY of the candidates. I do have to say that something about OBAMA doesn't sit right with me. That's not to say that any of the other candidates are any better but I really think PJ is kinda feeling the same way. They haven't backed anyone publicly or officially yet have they?
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
I thought the world...Turns out the world thought me
OMFG! He's better than fucking McBush... jesus people...
BTW I met Matt at the Obama rally and Stone and his wife have publicly announced support. Not that that should sway your decision but members have come out for support.
Another Bush in charge... yeah great fucking idea :rolleyes:
Thanks for the info and yes, anyone is better than BUSH.
The best expression of Love is Time.
The best time to Love is Now.
I'm never as good as when you're there.........
You have no idea what you are talking about... sorry to be blunt but you dont.
BETTER THAN the racist obama
Wow, just wow...
JULY??? You mean we have to go 4+ more months of the rumors and bitc...I mean other stuff before we know??
J/k
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
I was told west coast... july... that's all I know
did you watch the debate.....?
Correct me if I am wrong however the point of the VFC 2004 wasn't that a bunch on Bush supporters would come to the show and all the sudden change their minds.....
It was to raise money to donate to organizations that promoted the idea of change and so they could focuses the money towards the swing states...
quoted from jjbehren at Ebeas...
Speeches are not made for spewing this info listen to this
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=19200400
if not the whole 30 minutes listen to the last 15 minutes
hope this doesn't get your thread moved but when ignorant people call someone racist........
that is a really great link!