As talented as Eddie is... Why should I listen to the political views of someone who didn't go to college, and is rich?
I'm sorry...
But
What does a college education have to do with anything?
I hate to break it to you friend...but college means DICK...and it sure as fuck doesn't earn you the right to speak your mind about the direction of this country.
I don't need to piss away 30 grand a year just to make myself educated, intellegent and informed.
- Listening to "Evenflow" EVERY show you go to......
- "Evacuation"
- Drunkin fans
- Drunkin fans w/camera phones(who actually think their pictures are going -to come out.
- Drunkin fans who don't shut the f up during a slower song.....
- Fan Club membership(only senor members get the good seats...they should do it like Bob Weir and Ratdog....mail in orders, first come first served, by mail in dates)
- Fan Club membership(only senor members get the good seats...they should do it like Bob Weir and Ratdog....mail in orders, first come first served, by mail in dates)
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Can't say anything bad, Love them!! I take them for what they are; I love it when someone has a passion, musical, political, whatever! To me, they've proven themselves time and time again.
I don't like it when Ed preaches to the choir and is disrespectful of other people's views. Or when he states his beliefs in an assuming and vague way.
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
I don't like it when Ed preaches to the choir and is disrespectful of other people's views. Or when he states his beliefs in an assuming and vague way.
When was he disrepectful of other people's views?? I've heard him speak about his views and say that the choice is yours. I've heard him say his best friend was a Republican and that everyone has a right to their beliefs and that it makes it more interesting.... or something like that.
I'm not sure how you can be assuming and vague at the same time
1) Songs that meander and don't go anywhere. Their last three albums are all guilty of this.
2) Vedder forcing politics down peoples throat. I agree with what he says, but how about actually enterting a public debate instead of preaching to the choir?
3) Bad production on last three albums (I can't be the only one who thought the whole Binaural sound just didn't work, right?). Looking forward to hearing Brendan O Brien again.
not much to dislike about the band.......just wish their album output (years in between) was as frequent as the once every two years deal like the past.
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1 - When songs like Daughter and Crazy Mary live get stretched into like 10-minute songs. At about the six-minute mark, I usually start thinking "OK, let's move this along."
2 - I'd love for them to add a few more cover songs.....especially on tours like the one this past June where they didn't have a new album to work off of. I don't really get this one. You'd think they'd have a ton more fun trying out some old '70s rock song than playing Evenflow again.
3 - And not really on them, but with regards to the posters.....why not print like five times as many of these things for every show? It's not like they're gonna go to waste. Would make five times as many people happy.
4 - And I agree...I hate people that list their shows in their signature. What a pompous bunch of.......wait.....DOUF!
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When was he disrepectful of other people's views?? I've heard him speak about his views and say that the choice is yours. I've heard him say his best friend was a Republican and that everyone has a right to their beliefs and that it makes it more interesting.... or something like that.
I'm not sure how you can be assuming and vague at the same time
At the Storytellers taping, where he said those who don't agree with him could go fuck themselves.
You can be assuming and vague when you are absolutely sure you are right and don't feel the need to back any of your claims by evidence or by showing you have carefully considered your opponent's point of view.
... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
But
What does a college education have to do with anything?
I hate to break it to you friend...but college means DICK...and it sure as fuck doesn't earn you the right to speak your mind about the direction of this country.
I don't need to piss away 30 grand a year just to make myself educated, intellegent and informed.
So fucking what if Eddie isn't a college grad.
He's better for it.
No shit!!! Agreed.
So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
I realise that because of this post I might get labelled as being one too but what the hell, that would just prove my point.
well said...
i like improv so ed changing lyrics - well i welcome and enjoy that. What a useless thread. There's nothing wrong w/ PJ....your on this board and are a fan for a reason are you not?
1. arsehole elitist fans...hoggin the front&generally being ultra weird..
2. not enough output as in records..more please..and better than that last one..come on lads, youve farted better songs than those...
3. not enough touring..by faaar...
4. confusing sometimes nonsensical fan club..like WHERE are my two newsletters a year??? don't say it's so if it aint so! that among other things..
5.shitty exclusive and opportunistic moves like benaroya vinyl, limited posters and such..make it for everybody..not just the affluent. we're inches away from $1000 dinner gigs...fuck that shit it excludes people and is really disgusting.
At the Storytellers taping, where he said those who don't agree with him could go fuck themselves.
You must have missed what he said after that comment... about having differing views and accepting that as long as you did research and weren't blindly following the ideals of people without any info to back it up....
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As talented as Eddie is... Why should I listen to the political views of someone who didn't go to college, and is rich?
Yikes, really?
How arrogant a statement can you make. Yes, he may lack a college degree, but that says nothing about his intelligence or ability to understand world issues.
And there are lots of dumbasses with degrees out there I'm just sayin...
At the Storytellers taping, where he said those who don't agree with him could go fuck themselves.
I found that funny, I don't think it was ment to be utterly dismissive. He clarified it afterward by saying they (the band) have a purpose, and the point of having a purpose or cause is to be dedicated to it. Otherwise there will be no effective change.
I don't like (their) patriotism - I understand it in a way (PEOPLE have the power), but my opinion is that patriotism is more a way of excluding others, a way of irrational community under symbols, weak relationsships, anonymity, etc.
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As talented as Eddie is... Why should I listen to the political views of someone who didn't go to college, and is rich?
You think your degree makes you more intelligent, or creative? The knowledge you acquire for 30K a year can be found on the internet in about 1 minute; I am getting through med school in large part via wikipedia and actually succeeding! Listening to professors will stimulate you, but if your eyes and ears are open then you can get knowledge from everywhere.
1. Oh....elitist fans piss me off, mainly cause they hog all the best seats and think they deserve it.
was the whole releasing some of the live shows through verizon. you know, supporting a giant multinational corporation by giving a bunch of advertising to a company that complied with warrentless wiretapping and the like...
of course whenever anyone stands up and says anything political, they open themselves up for charges of hypocrisy, and i'd rather see the band take stands than not...still, seeing all that verizon shit on last summer's tour was hard to stomach...
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I'm sorry...
But
What does a college education have to do with anything?
I hate to break it to you friend...but college means DICK...and it sure as fuck doesn't earn you the right to speak your mind about the direction of this country.
I don't need to piss away 30 grand a year just to make myself educated, intellegent and informed.
So fucking what if Eddie isn't a college grad.
He's better for it.
- "Evacuation"
- Drunkin fans
- Drunkin fans w/camera phones(who actually think their pictures are going -to come out.
- Drunkin fans who don't shut the f up during a slower song.....
- Fan Club membership(only senor members get the good seats...they should do it like Bob Weir and Ratdog....mail in orders, first come first served, by mail in dates)
MSG 1
Ringo the next night in Boston
Hartford
Boston 1 & 2
hell's yeah...
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I'm not sure how you can be assuming and vague at the same time
want to be enlightened"
2) Vedder forcing politics down peoples throat. I agree with what he says, but how about actually enterting a public debate instead of preaching to the choir?
3) Bad production on last three albums (I can't be the only one who thought the whole Binaural sound just didn't work, right?). Looking forward to hearing Brendan O Brien again.
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1 - When songs like Daughter and Crazy Mary live get stretched into like 10-minute songs. At about the six-minute mark, I usually start thinking "OK, let's move this along."
2 - I'd love for them to add a few more cover songs.....especially on tours like the one this past June where they didn't have a new album to work off of. I don't really get this one. You'd think they'd have a ton more fun trying out some old '70s rock song than playing Evenflow again.
3 - And not really on them, but with regards to the posters.....why not print like five times as many of these things for every show? It's not like they're gonna go to waste. Would make five times as many people happy.
4 - And I agree...I hate people that list their shows in their signature. What a pompous bunch of.......wait.....DOUF!
96: Seattle
97: Oakland
98: Sacramento
00: Sacramento, Mt. View, Portland
02: Seattle (2)
03: Mt. View, Las Vegas, Phoenix
05: Vancouver
06: Albany, Hartford, Denver (2), LA (2), SF (3)
08: Santa Barbara & San Diego (EV), Camden II, Washington DC, MSG II
Are you also referring to the U.S. president, George W. Bush?
It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
I've spent so many years in question
To find I'd known this all along.
At the Storytellers taping, where he said those who don't agree with him could go fuck themselves.
You can be assuming and vague when you are absolutely sure you are right and don't feel the need to back any of your claims by evidence or by showing you have carefully considered your opponent's point of view.
No shit!!! Agreed.
Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
It said "Life is nothing but a dream."
I've spent so many years in question
To find I'd known this all along.
well said...
i like improv so ed changing lyrics - well i welcome and enjoy that. What a useless thread. There's nothing wrong w/ PJ....your on this board and are a fan for a reason are you not?
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2. not enough output as in records..more please..and better than that last one..come on lads, youve farted better songs than those...
3. not enough touring..by faaar...
4. confusing sometimes nonsensical fan club..like WHERE are my two newsletters a year??? don't say it's so if it aint so! that among other things..
5.shitty exclusive and opportunistic moves like benaroya vinyl, limited posters and such..make it for everybody..not just the affluent. we're inches away from $1000 dinner gigs...fuck that shit it excludes people and is really disgusting.
You must have missed what he said after that comment... about having differing views and accepting that as long as you did research and weren't blindly following the ideals of people without any info to back it up....
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Social awareness does not equal political activism!
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HAhaha!! Oh that's perfect!
I want Pearl Jam to get back to No Code type stuff
let's have an album that flows instead of meanders
Yikes, really?
How arrogant a statement can you make. Yes, he may lack a college degree, but that says nothing about his intelligence or ability to understand world issues.
And there are lots of dumbasses with degrees out there
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― David Benatar - Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence
You think your degree makes you more intelligent, or creative? The knowledge you acquire for 30K a year can be found on the internet in about 1 minute; I am getting through med school in large part via wikipedia and actually succeeding! Listening to professors will stimulate you, but if your eyes and ears are open then you can get knowledge from everywhere.
1. Oh....elitist fans piss me off, mainly cause they hog all the best seats and think they deserve it.
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of course whenever anyone stands up and says anything political, they open themselves up for charges of hypocrisy, and i'd rather see the band take stands than not...still, seeing all that verizon shit on last summer's tour was hard to stomach...
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also the people who go to the ten club window area trying to upgrade thru a trade with an extra single ticket holder
- The last album sucked.
- The psychotic fans who buy everything they put out/wait for hours to get a glimpse of Ed/think McCready is the best guitar player in rock.
- The ticket distribution system is pretty weak. They really need a new server.
- The fact they only tour small portions of the United States, and killing fan bases in areas that haven't seen the band live in close to 5 years.
- Vedder's solo album sucked...wait I guess that's not PJ...
well, that's all I can come up with right now.
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