Chris Cornell - Long Gone

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  • OffHeGoes132OffHeGoes132 Posts: 594
    Did you guys get a chance to listen to the whole interview on that link I provided? It is interesting in parts. I like when he talks about the way he used to treat producers in Soundgarden....he said him and the boys never really used them, the producer was just there to make sure they "behaved" themselves, so to speak. He notes that it actually wasn't until the first Audioslave record where he started listening to what the producer had to offer. To me, this album sounds almost entirely producer (Timbaland) driven, which is a fucking shame (and he may or may not even be writing his own lyrics now). I think he should try doing things his own way, the way he did in SG, it seemed to work well for him.....maybe he could even try producing/co-producing his own album again.

    He also mentions that he got the idea to work with Timbaland from his brother-in-law who owns a night club or some shit. I had a feeling this idea stemmed from....umm...other influences, but I still blame Chris for putting his name to utter shit like this. And I must reiterate that I was a supporter of Carry On, while it was a weak album, it appears it will beat this new one to bloody hell.
  • JimNasticsJimNastics Posts: 679
    The whole thing is a complete fucking shambles, it really is, and this is coming from an absolutely massive Cornell fan. Carry On was certainly weak but still ok, I had no idea however that he would continue the road into this... it's a sickening sell-out of mega proportions.
  • mole1985mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    JimNastics wrote:
    The whole thing is a complete fucking shambles, it really is, and this is coming from an absolutely massive Cornell fan. Carry On was certainly weak but still ok, I had no idea however that he would continue the road into this... it's a sickening sell-out of mega proportions.

    A sell out is someone who goes against their beliefs/values for money. I dont recall Cornell ever saying he wasn't going to do an R n B album so i dont think we can call someone a sell out for trying something new.
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  • Marie CurieMarie Curie Posts: 1,250
    “Life is life everywhere. Life is in ourselves and not outside us. There will be men beside me, and the important thing is to be a man among men and to remain a man always, whatever the misfortunes, not to despair and not to fall - that is the aim of life, that is its purpose.”
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    haha classic! someone on the CC boards do that? or is this album actually crappy enough to get attention from elsewhere?
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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    haha classic! someone on the CC boards do that? or is this album actually crappy enough to get attention from elsewhere?
    Nope, that's mine. Thanks for the kind words everyone. :)
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Nope, that's mine. Thanks for the kind words everyone. :)
    be sure to post it on the CC boards too if you havent already... maybe chris will actually see it that way :D
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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    be sure to post it on the CC boards too if you havent already... maybe chris will actually see it that way :D
    My first post on there... and I'll get banned forever. Sounds good to me. :D
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  • Marie CurieMarie Curie Posts: 1,250
    My first post on there... and I'll get banned forever. Sounds good to me. :D

    I already posted that there for you, couldn't resist :D
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  • PJSEMPREPJSEMPRE Posts: 687
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  • after listening to that interview i've kinda changed my opinion about all this...

    i dont like his new stuff, which does annoy me, cause i think he's one of the best singers of the past 15-20 years. but if he's happy playing this sort of stuff then good for him. lets just call it a midlife crisis and hope he gets over it soon...

    i think he makes a good point about artists who stay in a corner and play the same sort of stuff through their whole career, the best artists are the ones who can play across different styles of music, and i think he's pretty keen on making sure he's doing that, whether its succesfull or not...

    what i do like is the fact that he's doing this thing but not abandoning all his old music which i do love. he's still playing TOTD stuff and SG stuff so im sure he'll head back in that direction some day...

    and when he does ill be waiting to pick up his records again.
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  • bobasfeetbobasfeet Posts: 1,168
    Nope, that's mine. Thanks for the kind words everyone. :)


    Wellll...I have a story and I promise you it's true. I am friends with the top local DJ in town. She got to hear the cd today with representatives from Interscope. She sent me a text from the listening party and said that it wasn't as bad as I told her it was gonna be. Well, I remembered your cartoon and sent it to her immediately. Later, she was out to dinner with the record people and showed it to them. One thought it was hilarious....one not so much (said it was mean) LOL...So don't be surprised if it doesn't get back to the man himself.
  • bobasfeet wrote:
    Wellll...I have a story and I promise you it's true. I am friends with the top local DJ in town. She got to hear the cd today with representatives from Interscope. She sent me a text from the listening party and said that it wasn't as bad as I told her it was gonna be. Well, I remembered your cartoon and sent it to her immediately. Later, she was out to dinner with the record people and showed it to them. One thought it was hilarious....one not so much (said it was mean) LOL...So don't be surprised if it doesn't get back to the man himself.
    Haha! Excellent! :D

    *suddenly wishes he had used a pen name* :p
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  • Well, I've heard the three songs again, louder and they're sounding pretty decent and I'm thinking there may be a good chance Timbaland did put some music on this. Also, two of the songs are sounding great live:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jU_HicacN9M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVdXRRV2WVM&feature=related

    Also, there's a cool version of Hunger Strike with Chester Bennington and one Cornell does with Crawling with Linkin Park.
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Also, two of the songs are sounding great live:
    the word "great" gets thrown around alot these days...
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    Now I'm not up on my Cornell so someone will have to explain the thread title. Is "Long Gone" the title of a new song or it it a way of describing his credibility?
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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Now I'm not up on my Cornell so someone will have to explain the thread title. Is "Long Gone" the title of a new song or it it a way of describing his credibility?
    both
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    sgossard3 wrote:
    both

    I haven't heard it. I'm gonna have to give it a listen.
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  • Okay, so Long Gone doesn't sound quite as awful live, but Watch Out still sounds like crap. It's.... it's made of cuss.
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  • I think both songs sound better live but I wouldn't call them great by any means. Watch Out sounds almost alright with a real drum kit though.
  • muppetmuppet Posts: 980
    I think both songs sound better live but I wouldn't call them great by any means. Watch Out sounds almost alright with a real drum kit though.

    I don't understand Cornell's (or Timberland's?) reliance on a drum machine. I mean, the guy worked with Matt Cameron for over 10 years so he obviously knows the value of a good drumkit.

    If they were actually good beats I wouldn't be complaining but from what I've heard, they don't seem to be.
  • eyedclaareyedclaar Posts: 6,980
    I think both songs sound better live but I wouldn't call them great by any means. Watch Out sounds almost alright with a real drum kit though.

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  • PJSEMPREPJSEMPRE Posts: 687
    sgossard3 wrote:
    both

    Yeah, both.
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    You can hear 5 songs all the way through here:

    http://www.planetradio1073.com/pages/cornelltimbaland.html

    Enjoy :D
  • You can hear 5 songs all the way through here:

    http://www.planetradio1073.com/pages/cornelltimbaland.html

    Enjoy :D
    I'll say this much: the slower songs are a LOT more tolerable than the fast songs. I don't know why, maybe they fit his voice better. Or maybe it's the lack of yelping in the background. I just don't know. :D
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    I'll say this much: the slower songs are a LOT more tolerable than the fast songs. I don't know why, maybe they fit his voice better. Or maybe it's the lack of yelping in the background. I just don't know. :D

    I agree, I would even go to the point of saying that I rather like Scream, the music isn't spectacular, but the vocals are damn good. Watch Out still irritates the living shit out of me.
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