Chris Cornell - Long Gone

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  • def respect all music up to now. just not looking forward to explaining over and over again why the new songs arent to my liking... and to new cornell fans that they have 20 years worth of back catalogue to discover.
  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    Just watching the Leno performance again, I just realised how repetitive Long Gone is too, it kind of goes nowhere.
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    The song isn't THAT bad, in terms of what it COULD have been.....in my head I can hear Chris doing it solo on an acoustic and it sounds awesome.....


    But seriously.....why Timbaland????

    Why the watering down and thin nasty bleepy RnB production????

    Even on Leno the backing sounds generic and emotionless......
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    What really sucks in all this is his band is actually really good live. Those guys have nailed the Soundgarden and Audioslave songs on tour. Why wouldn't Chris want to collaborate with those guys and make something good. Not make them suffer through songs like "Long Gone" and "Watch Out" on tour. Do you think Chris just needs the money and doesn't want to have to pay those guys for contributing on an album? Sucks for those guys.

    If anyone saw him tour over the last year and a half you know what I'm talking about. Chris is in top form vocally , looks good and surrounded himself with a good band. Im guessing since Carry On tanked that he is making Scream so it will suck so bad that when he makes the next one it will look unbelievably great compared to the other turds. ?
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    teskeinc wrote:
    What really sucks in all this is his band is actually really good live. Those guys have nailed the Soundgarden and Audioslave songs on tour. Why wouldn't Chris want to collaborate with those guys and make something good. Not make them suffer through songs like "Long Gone" and "Watch Out" on tour. Do you think Chris just needs the money and doesn't want to have to pay those guys for contributing on an album? Sucks for those guys.

    If anyone saw him tour over the last year and a half you know what I'm talking about. Chris is in top form vocally , looks good and surrounded himself with a good band. Im guessing since Carry On tanked that he is making Scream so it will suck so bad that when he makes the next one it will look unbelievably great compared to the other turds. ?
    being skilled studio musicians and writing good material is WORLDS apart... SG and audioslave songs arent THAT difficult to pull off for any good musician (especially the audioslave songs)... the real skill is in writing those songs, and i dont think cornells band right now are capable of anything of that caliber... and if any of them get it into their heads that they are then im sure chris will fire them instantly before he has a mutiny... im sure they knew what they were signing on for in advance and are just glad to be "rock stars" without any of the hassle of writing music... not to take away from them... they are good... im just not blown away enough to think chris should work with them when he could easily have his pick of ANYONE he wanted to work on a studio album, like mark lanegans super band on bubblegum... hes just an egomaniac
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  • facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    sgossard3 wrote:
    being skilled studio musicians and writing good material is WORLDS apart... SG and audioslave songs arent THAT difficult to pull off for any good musician (especially the audioslave songs)... the real skill is in writing those songs, and i dont think cornells band right now are capable of anything of that caliber... and if any of them get it into their heads that they are then im sure chris will fire them instantly before he has a mutiny... im sure they knew what they were signing on for in advance and are just glad to be "rock stars" without any of the hassle of writing music... not to take away from them... they are good... im just not blown away enough to think chris should work with them when he could easily have his pick of ANYONE he wanted to work on a studio album, like mark lanegans super band on bubblegum... hes just an egomaniac

    Well Chris did pick them out of all the people he could have chosen to play with live, not to mention that three of them are in a band together and they make pretty damn good music: http://www.myspace.com/runthroughthedesert sounds better than anything I've heard so far from Cornell's new record.
  • chimechime Posts: 7,839
    Well Chris did pick them out of all the people he could have chosen to play with live, not to mention that three of them are in a band together and they make pretty damn good music: http://www.myspace.com/runthroughthedesert sounds better than anything I've heard so far from Cornell's new record.

    Thanks for the heads up ... will have to give them a listen. I liked Yogi's own stuff.
    So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
  • sgossard3 wrote:
    hes just an egomaniac

    ......or people just want to hear songs written by Chris Cornell.

    Seriously, is it possible for people to keep their opinions of the music seperate from their opinions of the musician.
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    ......or people just want to hear songs written by Chris Cornell.

    Seriously, is it possible for people to keep their opinions of the music seperate from their opinions of the musician.
    i just think it would make sense to atleast bounce ideas off your band during the writing process... even if youre a solo artist... doesnt even sound like they played on the studio stuff let alone had any say... the "egomaniac" thing was probably too much and based entirely on assumptions... i just dont think its fair to his band who signed on to this project with the same concept of chris and his music as we all had prior to this album

    and thanks for the link facepollution... theyre actually pretty good
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  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    sgossard3 wrote:
    being skilled studio musicians and writing good material is WORLDS apart... SG and audioslave songs arent THAT difficult to pull off for any good musician (especially the audioslave songs)... the real skill is in writing those songs, and i dont think cornells band right now are capable of anything of that caliber... and if any of them get it into their heads that they are then im sure chris will fire them instantly before he has a mutiny... im sure they knew what they were signing on for in advance and are just glad to be "rock stars" without any of the hassle of writing music... not to take away from them... they are good... im just not blown away enough to think chris should work with them when he could easily have his pick of ANYONE he wanted to work on a studio album, like mark lanegans super band on bubblegum... hes just an egomaniac
    the 3 songs on their myspace are probably better than anything on Carry On and definitely better than Scream/Timbaland. Don't tell me these guys with Cornell couldn't write a decent album. Maybe not Soundgardenesque but something you could be proud of
  • Just want to say thanks to everyone who posted in this thread. I was on holiday for two weeks and then saw that everyone had read my mind and put down all my thoughts! I need not comment as it has already been said.
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    this thread is to popular to let die , Chris likes reading it!
  • teskeinc wrote:
    this thread is to popular to let die , Chris likes reading it!

    He's gonna have to like reading it, because his own board has been wrecked.
    All that's left are some people picking up street team points to try and meet him... and of course, the forum ruler, making sure to respond to every dissenting post.
  • CCRefugee wrote:
    He's gonna have to like reading it, because his own board has been wrecked.
    All that's left are some people picking up street team points to try and meet him... and of course, the forum ruler, making sure to respond to every dissenting post.
    I find that the more censored a board gets, the more I just go nuts on it. :p That's the only reason I bother sticking around on that board - to rile up the Cornell gestapo.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    CCRefugee wrote:
    He's gonna have to like reading it, because his own board has been wrecked.
    All that's left are some people picking up street team points to try and meet him... and of course, the forum ruler, making sure to respond to every dissenting post.
    what does the street team actually do?
  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    Well Chris did pick them out of all the people he could have chosen to play with live, not to mention that three of them are in a band together and they make pretty damn good music: http://www.myspace.com/runthroughthedesert sounds better than anything I've heard so far from Cornell's new record.
    I've seen RTTD twice; good sound, spacey in places, crunchy is others. Yogi's a damned good guitarist and works well as a frontman.
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  • teskeinc wrote:
    what does the street team actually do?

    Nowadays, I'm not quite sure. I live in the NYC area, and back in the day, alot of rappers/R&B artists had street teams, especially the B-team artists.
    Basically, the street teamers would pass out demos, put up posters, some viral marketing, etc. Raise awareness.

    I'm sure that's where the CC street teamers are doing to a point, I heard a story of someone who put an ad for the last CD on the car and went driving around the country or something like that.

    Seems like most of the ones on the site are just attack dogs, though, they go search google for articles/reviews critical of Chris and either admonish the people who don't agree with them, or just bomb the place with tons of positive feedback. If you see an article about CC where the tone has gone from extremely negative to positive the street teamers have been there.
  • muppetmuppet Posts: 980
    It seems like a D.I.Y PR campaign or some sort. Good for them if they enjoy it, but frankly, as much as I love the guys music, I would never care for an artist that much to put that much time and effort into it :p
  • http://www.chriscornell.org.uk/streetteamfaq.htm

    Don't forget to buy those CD's for gifts to friends! Your 3 year old nephew will love a copy of Carry On! The best part is that you have to document your activities to your leader in order to gain valueable points towards things like trinkets and meet and greets, where you can shriek to Chris how much you love him, or just stand there creepily speechless!
  • teskeincteskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Double Banned!

    Teskeinc
    Richardhead19

    Lets see if they can figure out my others.
  • dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,275
    I'm a little in awe but I just had a post get deleted. Deleted. I've never had that happen to me.

    Someone posted that they didn't know why things like passes for the meet and greets weren't given out randomly to fans or through contests and why such things seemed reserved for the goofy street teamers who accumulated "points" for all of their eforts. I responded that such an idea is ridiculous, too impartial, too non-preferential, and too logical, giving regular, honest, long term fans those things instead of reserving them for those on the "payroll".

    Next thing I know, my post is gone. I'm a little stunned. Maybe I should be proud.
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    ...signed...the token black Pearl Jam fan.

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  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    dharma69 wrote:
    I'm a little in awe but I just had a post get deleted. Deleted. I've never had that happen to me.

    Someone posted that they didn't know why things like passes for the meet and greets weren't given out randomly to fans or through contests and why such things seemed reserved for the goofy street teamers who accumulated "points" for all of their eforts. I responded that such an idea is ridiculous, too impartial, too non-preferential, and too logical, giving regular, honest, long term fans those things instead of reserving them for those on the "payroll".

    Next thing I know, my post is gone. I'm a little stunned. Maybe I should be proud.
    ha yah... getting banned or deleted from the CC board is definitely a badge of honor and a sign of sanity... i would definitely back up an impartial method for those perks too! but chris definitely isnt gonna get any good publicity from anyone in the music industry, so he needs the help of his more gullible fans for anyone to know he even made a new album
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  • If Chris made a mindblowing album that got great reviews and actually got his record company to publicise it then he wouldn't need a bunch of kids putting posters up at their high schools.
  • sgossard3 wrote:
    ha yah... getting banned or deleted from the CC board is definitely a badge of honor and a sign of sanity...

    Amen to that. They have spammers on there that never seem to get banned. Oh but mention something negative about the new music, street team, dickface Timbaland, etc., and you'll be deleted/censored. If you keep it up, you'll be banned. The board is a fucking disgrace these days, much like the new music.
  • muppetmuppet Posts: 980
    If Chris made a mindblowing album that got great reviews and actually got his record company to publicise it then he wouldn't need a bunch of kids putting posters up at their high schools.

    Exactly. I can understand it when promoting some unknown, underground artist. But this guy has had two number 1 albums to his name, and all the bands he has been in have gone multi-platinum. He's not exactly a household name but come on, isn't this a job for the management?
  • ii44ii44 Posts: 430
    Just watching the Leno performance again, I just realised how repetitive Long Gone is too, it kind of goes nowhere.

    I think it sounds worse as a rock song. I actually "liked" the samplely poppy cut better.
  • Apparently, Justin Timberlake and Ryan douchebag Tedder make appearances on the new album as well. I wasn't sure if that little tidbit had been posted in this 40-PAGE thread yet. Isn't this fantastic?!?! Come on people show your enthusiasm for Chrissy Cornelli!!
  • Kilgore_TroutKilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    Apparently, Justin Timberlake and Ryan douchebag Tedder make appearances on the new album as well. I wasn't sure if that little tidbit had been posted in this 40-PAGE thread yet. Isn't this fantastic?!?! Come on people show your enthusiasm for Chrissy Cornelli!!
    atleast JT knows how to make this kind of music... im sure his cameo is the highlight of the album
    "Senza speme vivemo in disio"

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  • sgossard3 wrote:
    atleast JT knows how to make this kind of music... im sure his cameo is the highlight of the album

    Which is very sad!! haha
  • Cropduster84Cropduster84 Posts: 1,283
    Apparently, Justin Timberlake and Ryan douchebag Tedder make appearances on the new album as well.


    Man, that is so depressing......


    He's lost all integrity.....

    He used to be a rock singer and musician - he's now a pop star and a shit one at that......
    'The more I studied religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.' - Sir Richard Francis Burton
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