Chris Cornell - Long Gone

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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    all my posts are gone except ones people had quoted, unbelievable! Im bringing a big black thumbs down sign tomorrow to the show, ive got front row in the balcony, when he starts the new crap songs , Im gonna hang the thumbs down over the railing.
  • Marie Curie
    Marie Curie Posts: 1,250
    great post sgossard3, I couldn't agree more with everything you said there
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  • teskeinc
    teskeinc Posts: 1,784
    Marie Curie wrote:
    great post sgossard3, I couldn't agree more with everything you said there
    his days are numbered , lol
  • OffHeGoes132
    OffHeGoes132 Posts: 594
    I agree, awesome post sgossard!
  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    teskeinc wrote:
    his days are numbered , lol
    ha... probably... i did kindof put them on the spot but mentioning their gestapo censorship BS... but one guy already agreed with me... i wouldnt care if i do get booted... i only have 16 posts there cause every conversation is completely shallow and irrelevant
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  • juampiamado
    juampiamado Posts: 2
    Totally agree stone...
    I think that as a musician you can experiment. Metallica once did it, and they lost many fans. That's a very good example of having the guts to play new sounds with the risk of being titled as "MONEY MAKERS".
    But Chris went beyond that, a year ago he released the single YOU KNOW MY NAME... wich is AMAZING!!!! How can a man turn to these new shitty songs as LONG GONE? Not caring about his fans at all!!!!! Does he have the guts to loose all his fans? I hope he does, because this is not evolution... is a mess.
  • JimNastics
    JimNastics Posts: 679
    That forum has just been completely overrun by clueless kids, describing that forum as "shallow" is an understatement. One of them for example, chrissy_ffm, has got over 1700 posts since joining last April, and only a month or so ago posted a link to a Coldplay song believing it to be a new Chris Cornell song... seriously. She also usually has a photo of herself doing the retarded "devil horns" hand signal as her avatar. At the moment, she is one of the main members who are so delusional and obsessed in their defence of Chris Cornell, when she obviously has not got a clue what she is talking about. There's a group of them who pretty much to just spam the board with pointless CC-idolising drivel.

    Sorry to pick out one member but she gets on my tits a hell of a lot... there are many others as well though.
  • mole1985
    mole1985 Posts: 1,119
    juampiamado wrote:
    Totally agree stone...
    I think that as a musician you can experiment. Metallica once did it, and they lost many fans. That's a very good example of having the guts to play new sounds with the risk of being titled as "MONEY MAKERS".
    But Chris went beyond that, a year ago he released the single YOU KNOW MY NAME... wich is AMAZING!!!! How can a man turn to these new shitty songs as LONG GONE? Not caring about his fans at all!!!!! Does he have the guts to loose all his fans? I hope he does, because this is not evolution... is a mess.

    Personally i think musicians should make the music THEY want to make not want the fans want. I would hate it if PJ didn't try something like 'Riot Act' again just because it wasn't 'popular' with their fans.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    mole1985 wrote:
    Personally i think musicians should make the music THEY want to make not want the fans want. I would hate it if PJ didn't try something like 'Riot Act' again just because it wasn't 'popular' with their fans.
    it wasnt popular with them at all either based on the things they have said... glad they did it though... as are many fans now that some time has passed... it definitely grows on you
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,993
    mole1985 wrote:
    Personally i think musicians should make the music THEY want to make not want the fans want. I would hate it if PJ didn't try something like 'Riot Act' again just because it wasn't 'popular' with their fans.

    Try something like Riot Act? I don't get it. What exactly did they try?
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  • jamie uk
    jamie uk Posts: 3,812
    mole1985 wrote:
    Personally i think musicians should make the music THEY want to make not want the fans want. I would hate it if PJ didn't try something like 'Riot Act' again just because it wasn't 'popular' with their fans.

    I love Riot Act. I also agree that artists should do what they feel they want to, lots of bands/artists have...Robert Plants first 3 solo efforts were pretty much the oppositte to anything Zeppelin had done.....he got it out of his system, then realised he loved rock an roll music and made some more. Hopefully Chris will do the same, but as for now, this moment, this time in place, I can't help but hear this CC stuff and cringe :)
    I came, I saw, I concurred.....
  • Edved82
    Edved82 Ireland Posts: 1,279
    sgossard3 wrote:
    heres what i had to share in case its not around too long:

    "I'll do my best to respectfully share my opinion here... but from what i hear from my PJ friends over at the PJ message board theres a whole lot of unnecessary censorship going on here... ill begin by saying im not angry about the album and dont wish any failure for chris since hes a family man and since he seems passionate about the project... with that being said however i am incredibly disappointed... nearly to the point of tears when i first heard the new material... i gave timbaland the benefit of the doubt for the longest time, standing up to friends, thinking that he may have the ability to move between genres like rick rubin proved by producing audioslave... clearly however that is not the case

    he took chris (with his voice sounding better than it has in a decade) and turned it into the worst kind of pop rubbish... and i like quite a bit of pop rubbish when its done right... not even the beats timbaland uses are anything unique... i remember chris saying he wanted to go solo to have control over the entirety of his music and then he seems to have turned over complete musical control here... the man that wrote "sunshower", "seasons", "outshined", "spoonman", etc etc etc is now asking "is this mic on?" and having gangster spoken word bridges like a bone thugz song??? i dont get it!

    i dont know whats worse... to think that its sincere and he really has lost all artistic integrity or to think he would make an insincere album for all the wrong reasons... he has one of the most loyal and loving fanbases made up of fans i know of other stellar 90's bands and yet he seems to be pandering and dumbing down his abilities to get a new fan base all together... i cant help but ask why? my loyalty only goes so far... if i get the feeling chris doesnt appreciate or need my support and would rather adopt the linkin park fanbase then ill step away with the extensive chris collection i already have and be content... nothing could ever tarnish what he and his music meant to me in my past... but i was hoping to enjoy his music in the future too as i do with mark lanegan's (who btw has been far more open to new projects and genres and does so without selling out his principles)

    im sincerely hoping this is a phase chris is going to like neil young "lucky 13" and he'll have a triumphant return to form with his next album... but my thought is that if people all run out and buy this album strictly because of our past loyalties to chris, then he'll get mixed signal and may think we actually prefer this to what he has done in the past... and can anyone honestly say that? look for the good in it all your want and be as "openminded" as possible, but who wouldnt prefer he use a real drummer as opposed to a drum track... this is the guy that played with matt FUCKIN cameron for christs sake!

    ok... thats all i have to share... might get removed... but hopefully not... i love chris... im worried about him and the path hes choosing... hope im not alone in that... maybe the people in charge should pass on the concern of his fans (which ive encountered overwhelmingly) instead of making it disappear... sometimes ignorance is just ignorance and not bliss"

    Excellent post - clear, concise and all points well reasoned and made. Was this deleted off the CC message boards? Fair enough to delete mindless hate posts, but there's no reason for that type of post to go. People are entitled to their opinions!
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  • ajurlacher
    ajurlacher Posts: 48
    Chris. What Happened.
    You made Hands All Over. Gun. Wooden Jesus. Jesus Christ Pose.

    And now its come to this?

    sad, sad, sad
  • GoingToLukins
    GoingToLukins Posts: 232
    So far I've heard 5 new songs and bits of a 6th. I must say, I like it all. It certainly is different and took a few listens to get into some of the tracks, but all in all I think this is going to be a good album. My fav so far (by far) is Ground Zero.

    I got the opportunity to see him twice on the Projekt Revolution tour and the 2 new songs he played (Long Gone and Watch Out) both sounded even better live. He added another guy to the band to reproduce some of the "Timbaland-like essense" of the music. Still, these new songs certainly didn't sound out of place at a rock concert at all. Even the Linkin Park crowd really seemed to dig the new stuff.

    Give it a chance. A fair chance.



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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    GoingToLukins wrote:
    Give it a chance. A fair chance.
    why must every fan boy accuse people of not giving this stuff a fair chance! i think most of us have... what reason do we have not to give one of our favorite singers the benefit of the doubt here?? you think i didnt try to like this instead of abruptly ending a 7 year bromance?? i have a lot of guilty pleasures in this genre of music too ("i kissed a girl", alot of rihanna songs, maroon 5, etc) and this isnt even good when compared to those... if he did this transition right there would still be an uproar but nothing of this caliber... theres no one to blame but chris himself
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  • GoingToLukins
    GoingToLukins Posts: 232
    The reason I say "fair chance" is because most people (myself included) wretched when they heard Timbaland would be producing it. For me, some of the songs needed a few listens to appreciate. Example, I hated the song "Scream" upon first listen, but now it is among my favourites. That's all I'm saying.

    I'd hate to see your bromance end because of one producer. I am a hopeless bromantic at heart <3



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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    GoingToLukins wrote:
    The reason I say "fair chance" is because most people (myself included) wretched when they heard Timbaland would be producing it. For me, some of the songs needed a few listens to appreciate. Example, I hated the song "Scream" upon first listen, but now it is among my favourites. That's all I'm saying.

    I'd hate to see your bromance end because of one producer. I am a hopeless bromantic at heart <3
    well i was one of the ones cautiously optimistic when we first got the timbaland news so that certainly hasnt been a deciding factor in my feelings for the album... i just assumed timbaland and chris wouldve met somewhere in the middle of their respective genres instead of chris just accepting tims terms and conditions... i guess i was thinking there would be more agressive drum tracks like NIN and not generic shit that came from an 80's drum machine
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    be sure to check out "cultofsoundgarden"'s posts over at the CC board... he takes insanity to a whole new level... he actually compared standing up for chris to standing up for your girlfriend when someone talks shit about her... he THINKS HES DATING CHRIS CORNELL... and has referred to him multiple times as his god... i totally thought he was kidding at first as a satire of all the people actually behaving similarly... but hes not...
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  • master/slave
    master/slave Posts: 14
    that crazy mofo gives me the creeps!...
  • dust
    dust Posts: 133
    that cultofsoundgarden dude's joking right? seriously?

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